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The NHL is changing with players like Cale Makar, Quinn Hughes, and Adam Fox… but this shift in offensive philosophy on the backend, is changing NHL hockey.
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Wasn't it called a "2 line pass" not an "offside" ?
It was called a 3 line pass not offside at the beginning.
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It was called a two line pass. It was never considered offsides. My lord why can't hockey content creators know the very basics of hockey?
Great video dude
Great analysis! Thank you. I'm in Sweden right now watching Dallas Stars-Tampa Bay on TV ready to apply your analysis on this game. Gotta love hockey! 👍
Check those fighting majors from last year and this year. Enforcing is up. Too many high skill guys to protect now.
So is the argument that we need to reinstate clutching and grabbing and the two line pass rule, or just this is the outcome of the post-lockout changes. Thie biggest change was the strict salary cap so these talented players can show up and show off rather than be locked away as AHL injury call ups for the megabucks teams.
Positionless hockey is like old school ussr Russian hockey
You should do a video on those old dominant teams
so hockey is now using the basketball weave drill?
I don't even care what happens with the 2 line pass, I just wish they'd get rid of that dumb trapezoid behind the goal line, who cares where the goalie clears it
Thank you for breaking down the game.
I remember like 10 years ago I had a few coaches that were really pushing this idea. As a very defensive dman I wasn't to keen on the change, but the amount of plays it opened up was unbelievable. Imo, its simply better than traditional 3 down 2 up 'cycle' and it's pretty sweet seeing it a lo more in the pros
It wasn't considered offside. It was it's own infraction. cA Two Line Pass.
How about magnetic puck manipulation, hasn't that increased scoring? And even kept goals out of the net?
The motion offense is mostly reserved for the power play though. It's very rarely used outside of that. And while it's effective in creating more legitimate scoring chances on the power play it's also very effective in creating scoring chances for the other team. The vast majority of scoring chances these days are odd man breaks when the offense gives the puck away, and a huge portion of those happen because there are forwards on the point when those giveaways happen.
The Islanders and Oilers won 8 or 9 Cups because of offensive defenseman! You should have seen what offensive was like back then!!!!!
Recommendation! You should do a video on the crazy touch icing rule that is now gone.
I miss seeing players go absolutely FULL SPEED when trying to touch the puck. It was brutal sometimes
Early 90s when we had Lemieux and Gretzky.
At the end of the day, we’re trading goals for hits. I played all my life and I would’ve stayed Pro a lot longer if I was playing against 18-year-old kids. Nobody can do anything physical nobody can scare anybody because nothings gonna happen. There’s gotta be some middle ground.
I disagree that players are more talented now. It's just that teams are now more of a cohesive unit and don't need to rely on star players. Imo, kind of makes the game boring sometimes! Though it is beautiful to see a good play executed nicely.
Team defense just need a good counter to these full power offenses and then the score counts could go down.
Great analysis. This seems like an offense cycling progression partially related to the Soviet teams with all 5 in motion to keep possession rather than dumping to create zone pressure and 3 man cycling. Players and coaches need to have more situational awareness to adjust between systems, as needed. D men generally have to have better puck handling skills and mobility. Can you do one of these for the developments in hitting?
Rocket league rotations have made it into the NHL
Great video very dense not too long love it
I can't wait to see in 5 years to see how goalies adapt to this style.
these borderline rubber flex sticks that let a 5; 9" 180lb fwd rip a snap shot from the circle with speed like an al macInnis slapper isnt "players getting better"…same nonsense with goalie gear. NHL in 2050, players will have robotic exoskeletons and jet packs.
something that has stuck with me was Tucka Rask on Spittin Chicklets saying that its harder to read the puck as a Goalie.
You can't compare todays game to the game of the past once you start changing the rules in such a way. Not to mention the improvements in technology that make the game so much faster. I personally would prefer that they went to a game where it was not legal to commit physical assaults. Some of the best hockey played is in the Olympics where this type of behavior is not tolerated. Anyone that supports the violence doesn't really like hockey, they like the violence and should go attend UFC fights, instead, to fill that pleasure.
The NHL died back in 2004…
As a ducks fan, using them as a highlight for how hard this offense is to stop is painful 😂
Offense Dmen make for shitty defensemen leaving forwards to play D ! N a whole lot more soccer style BS penalties r 2 other reasons why there r more goals being scored !!!
Giordano still knows whats up. he may not be young and fast, but youth and exuberance sometimes is no match for old age and treachery.
This is such a well-done video, it could be mistaken as a in-game segment like HNIC's Coach's Corner.
Flyers do it too.
I disagree, teams with an effective enforcer or two are teams who win the cup
I had a weird prospective I played all through the mid 90’s and hung it up in 2004 after injuries. Well I didn’t handle that well and couldn’t even watch hockey. So I took a decade off and when I came back to watch NHL I could barely understand what I was watching. The puck can be shot so fast off the stick the players are so much faster I mean everything was different. It was kinda of a unique situation skipping 10 years ahead in the game and just mind blowing.
Hockey imitates socker
You think players just now are becoming really good?
I think your trying to make this more complicated then it is . Trying to be smart while saying nothing. Defense keeps stepping up then you have more turnovers hence forwards having to cover wich they don’t do well. More goals. Simple
Originally, passing across two lines was allowed. It was only during the WWII years that the two line pass was made illegal. That was because the young and able age players were off fighting the war and older players were playing instead. They brought in the rule to slow the game down and make skating up and down the ice easier on the older guys.
Good analysis, one thing I want to mention is that this is, interestingly enough, an older tactic in it's own right. It was developed and perfected by the Russian international team way back when as a way to overcome the much much more physical playstyle by the much bigger Canadians. Later, it was used by the Red Wings of the 90s during their "Russian 5" era. The concept, IIRC, has been referred to as "Total Hockey". It ended up not catching on so much in the NHL, because the 2 line pass rule inhibited it, and unless you were had an all all-star team like the Red Wings dynasty, you just didn't have enough talent to do it consistently.
Now, with the line pass being nothing but a relic and there being more talent than ever, it's been awesome watching it become the dominant playstyle in the NHL. And the game has never been better for it!
Excellent hockey topic, your work is well appreciated!
I find myself thinking how many points Bobby Orr would have had if the two-line pass had been available to him.
lot of similarity's to football (soccer) rules allowing smaller more technical players to thrive with protection.. Football changed with the pass back rule meaning defenders had to be more comfortable on the ball then in previous generations, like with hockey the defensive players are utilised in build up play and as offensive threats from deeper positions.
My takeaway is mainly rules are designed mainly for offensive players and almost always favour goal scoring over anything else. So it makes logical sense that defenders move from static single focused role of defending and passing the ball/puck to dynamic players with far more responsibility with regards to helping the team score.
Bettman is a scumbag
You know what changed the game?
All of the fuckin changing advertising on the boards during broadcasts.
Garbage.
I wonder how this is affecting goalie training or even numbers in terms of new tendies. I got the sense that, I don't know, it's a bit rough out there for them given the changes in the game? Regular 7-8–goal games matches lately. I think, given the number of matches and goals per season, nearly two-tenths of a degree is notable from 2019. And power play chances (down) and power play conversion (uo) especially. Thank you for the interesting video! Keep them coming!
On the side, there's this music piece right at the beginning that sounded really nice. Are ya'll able to share it?
I dont think there is more skill in todays NHL if anything less skill however teams are more balanced with less focus on physical and more on puck skills. ANY Stanley Cup winning team from 1998 to 2012 would 95% be able to win it again in this year 2023 because those teams where just better talent wise.
1998 until 2013 were the best years the NHL has ever seen, without question.
The "motion offense" you talk of isnt new at all. Its actually the same tactic the Russian olympic teams used since the 70's which is why they dominated for years because that play style focuses on control of the puck from end to end.
I feel the explosion of offense u mention is purely because of the tighter calling of games and emphasis put on less physicality. Players even in 2010 are getting crushed doing half of the tricks players do now, except now its a possible 5 min penalty with a game misconduct and possible suspension for sneazing on a guy the wrong way.
Lacrosse moves in hockey should be banned
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