There was a disgusting altercation between a fan and security at the Maple Leafs vs Avalanche game on Saturday night. That and more in today’s NHL hockey video!
Full video below. Canada is not an authoritarian hellhole. You are not allowed to brutalize a person because you have authority and they made you mad.
We were limited in how much we could show the video, but if you click below you’ll see he was clearly subdued and the force was excessive. I am genuinely not interested in your opinions otherwise.
It's also disgusting to make accusations and assumptions based on a short video clip and a bunch of fucking rumors. That level of force is sometimes justified. Until you know exactly what transpired, stop criticizing those who you FEEL did wrong.
Security guards usually have limited powers, many sports league hire off duty police as security which may give them more authority to detain. However the tactics such as kneeing and other issues is excessive. Lets see if Leafs or arena official address this and see what they say led to this. I believe that if security is off duty police, they must still identify themselves.
Keep to fact Eck or you are going to lose subscribers. If you are going for tabloid journalism it will be disappointing because I have followed you for years but if this is the direction your channels are going I will get my starwars and hockey from the million other sources be better.
I have my security license. Albeit in a different country and a country that doesn't have firearms. We were taught we aren't allowed to lay a hand on anyone, even if they were say shoplifting. And when detaining someome it is just the same as a citizens arrest. Only exception when force can be used is self-defense, but even then not excessive force unless it's life or death of course. Ps no, not all security guards are bad people or power mad, I know some exceptional humans who are security and it's a thankless low paying job. We don't all want to be cops either, most are just trying to make a living while getting home safe.
Unless dealing with a predator or something there’s no reason to attack a person like that even if they’re in the wrong. In front of his child too? They’re so foul for that & the man needs compensation.
Majority of security guards who are authorized to use force do it because they want to. I know a guy in loss-prevention and he's always bragging about getting paid to beat people up.
Yeah I have a hard time believing that he dropped the fan because he turned away angry. Real curious about what the fan did considering alcohol is almost alway involved. Need more context and less emotion from you Eck
Since they barely showed anything before the video was filmed. I won’t judge the security until we know more of what happened. Cause just walking away cause he got denied into the VIP room doesn’t tell anything. Feel like the father said something to actually upset the security
Half a story? I'm surprised Connor Bedard's mum's involvement hasn't been accepted as truth if we are just gonna guess & if i were there with a small child i surely would want to hold them away from any altercation of brawling adults!! Maybe Maybe Maybe?
Those 3 people are disgusting. The man should take legal action after he heals. That's crazy. He had a kid with him. Ridiculous. Be ashamed of your pathetic selves. Disgusting.
Your always best off not resisting at all. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, any running or resistance will look like an admission of guilt. Even if the cops/security are overly aggressive (in your eyes) and having a power trip you're never piled on like that if your not resisting
They don’t even allow knees on grounded opponents in the UFC. He very well could have kneed this man into a coma. The fact it even got to this point is insane. Hope the guy gets charged to the highest extent possible
All of these people saying "we need more context." and "the guy could have said something abusive to the guard" and other crap like this don't have a clue. I was trained in use of force and I can tell you that this security guy is way over the edge. Security is supposed to be trained to use a minimum of force necessary and unless the guy took a swing at the guard there is no way they would be allowed to tackle him, let alone beat him to a pulp. Even if he had taken a swing they would have tackled him and cuffed him and 3 guys are enough to avoid anything more than that. The knees to the head, and if I saw it correctly kneeling on his neck, are severely excessive force borderlineing on if not outright illegal.
Welp, this POS security guard is going down himself , Apparently this happened cause the fan carrying his young son, was trying to use a VIP exit and this security guard wouldn't let him ,and a fight ensued at least that's what people who witnessed this are saying. Totally excessive and unreasonable force. Buddy you're a lousy security guard not a cop.
Well we have to see the rest of the altercation before making judgement about the amount of force being applied. If this guy started swinging at the guards then I get it. All I'm saying is we need more info before jumping to conclusions that this was just an innoecent fan getting brutalized.
We don't know what lead to that altercation so I would wait before judging the security personnel. If his behaviour was threatening and he ignored their orders, there's no other way to keep other fans safe than taking him down.
There needs to be far more context to understand the whole of what happened here. There's way too much speculation on what led up to this takedown and restraint to say whether the force used is excessive or not.
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Full video below. Canada is not an authoritarian hellhole. You are not allowed to brutalize a person because you have authority and they made you mad.
We were limited in how much we could show the video, but if you click below you’ll see he was clearly subdued and the force was excessive. I am genuinely not interested in your opinions otherwise.
Watch the full video here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/SvyoMf6t21
It's also disgusting to make accusations and assumptions based on a short video clip and a bunch of fucking rumors. That level of force is sometimes justified. Until you know exactly what transpired, stop criticizing those who you FEEL did wrong.
Security guards usually have limited powers, many sports league hire off duty police as security which may give them more authority to detain. However the tactics such as kneeing and other issues is excessive. Lets see if Leafs or arena official address this and see what they say led to this. I believe that if security is off duty police, they must still identify themselves.
Don't all young security guards strive to be police officers? They just usually aren't good enough to get that job.
Tbf he is a leaf fan so odds are he's insane.
Do these losers even get trained? Ffs they should know you don’t need excessive force when he’s already down and has 3 men holding him down 🤦♂️
Or the fan could just cooperate.
When you act like a clown then don’t comply, this is what can happen. Why don’t people understand this?
Fun fact, Knee strikes to a grounded opponents head is illegal in the UFC.
I'll wait for more info to come out on this. A 40 second clip of some guy getting subdued doesn't tell the full story.
As a leaf fan I am honestly so disgusted on what our fans have become. This video was hard to watch especially as a fan.
Typical cop mentality
Keep to fact Eck or you are going to lose subscribers. If you are going for tabloid journalism it will be disappointing because I have followed you for years but if this is the direction your channels are going I will get my starwars and hockey from the million other sources be better.
Jesus Christ is Lord. ✝️❤️
Upon further review….
Head targeting and intent to injure has been assessed against security
That fan will become so rich from this he can pay Nylander’s contract.
I have my security license. Albeit in a different country and a country that doesn't have firearms.
We were taught we aren't allowed to lay a hand on anyone, even if they were say shoplifting.
And when detaining someome it is just the same as a citizens arrest.
Only exception when force can be used is self-defense, but even then not excessive force unless it's life or death of course.
Ps no, not all security guards are bad people or power mad, I know some exceptional humans who are security and it's a thankless low paying job.
We don't all want to be cops either, most are just trying to make a living while getting home safe.
I smell a firing
Not the fault of MLSE but rogue security. The story details will surface.
Liberals all the way.
Thats criminal. See it all too often and cops dont do shit.
Unless dealing with a predator or something there’s no reason to attack a person like that even if they’re in the wrong. In front of his child too? They’re so foul for that & the man needs compensation.
Please let us know if there is any updates?!
2 weeks to have a "it's 2024…"comment.
I think the fan should press charges hopefully they all get what's coming to them.
Majority of security guards who are authorized to use force do it because they want to. I know a guy in loss-prevention and he's always bragging about getting paid to beat people up.
Yeah I have a hard time believing that he dropped the fan because he turned away angry. Real curious about what the fan did considering alcohol is almost alway involved. Need more context and less emotion from you Eck
Since they barely showed anything before the video was filmed. I won’t judge the security until we know more of what happened. Cause just walking away cause he got denied into the VIP room doesn’t tell anything. Feel like the father said something to actually upset the security
You should stick to hockey videos.
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It's in Ontario so it's not surprising
Half a story? I'm surprised Connor Bedard's mum's involvement hasn't been accepted as truth if we are just gonna guess & if i were there with a small child i surely would want to hold them away from any altercation of brawling adults!! Maybe Maybe Maybe?
Those 3 people are disgusting. The man should take legal action after he heals. That's crazy. He had a kid with him. Ridiculous. Be ashamed of your pathetic selves. Disgusting.
Fired and sued, how pathetic do you have to be jeez
Bro was mad his team lost
He’ll be earning more than the Core 4 put together after the lawsuits are settled…
I need nore context, cause this reminds me of virtue tweets on twitter. Im not saying thats what this is though, cause idk you
Your always best off not resisting at all. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, any running or resistance will look like an admission of guilt. Even if the cops/security are overly aggressive (in your eyes) and having a power trip you're never piled on like that if your not resisting
They don’t even allow knees on grounded opponents in the UFC. He very well could have kneed this man into a coma. The fact it even got to this point is insane. Hope the guy gets charged to the highest extent possible
You're being emotional. Wait for the facts to come out before you post things like this.
Lot of "we need context" bs.
What a bunch of losers you all are, there is almost no reason to do this after he was ALREADY RESTRAINED!
All of these people saying "we need more context." and "the guy could have said something abusive to the guard" and other crap like this don't have a clue.
I was trained in use of force and I can tell you that this security guy is way over the edge. Security is supposed to be trained to use a minimum of force necessary and unless the guy took a swing at the guard there is no way they would be allowed to tackle him, let alone beat him to a pulp.
Even if he had taken a swing they would have tackled him and cuffed him and 3 guys are enough to avoid anything more than that.
The knees to the head, and if I saw it correctly kneeling on his neck, are severely excessive force borderlineing on if not outright illegal.
It's best to wait for all the context when there is a violent video circulating and causing emotional reactions.
Rule #1 of being a security guard: Never go full sheepdog. Dude went full rtard.
Welp, this POS security guard is going down himself , Apparently this happened cause the fan carrying his young son, was trying to use a VIP exit and this security guard wouldn't let him ,and a fight ensued at least that's what people who witnessed this are saying. Totally excessive and unreasonable force. Buddy you're a lousy security guard not a cop.
Corrections Canada would love to hire him lol, you people have no idea.
Well we have to see the rest of the altercation before making judgement about the amount of force being applied. If this guy started swinging at the guards then I get it. All I'm saying is we need more info before jumping to conclusions that this was just an innoecent fan getting brutalized.
We don't know what lead to that altercation so I would wait before judging the security personnel. If his behaviour was threatening and he ignored their orders, there's no other way to keep other fans safe than taking him down.
There needs to be far more context to understand the whole of what happened here. There's way too much speculation on what led up to this takedown and restraint to say whether the force used is excessive or not.