Yet the referee only gave him a 2 minute minor lol
canucklehead200
Will player fines ever be increased to a level where it might actually affect any of the players? 2k is utterly pathetic (and that’s the max). In the NBA it’s sometimes hundreds of thousands, and I do realize they make a lot more, but still
Bubbiesacat
Is there any footage for this?
sneezlo
Honestly he was a bit out of line there but didn’t go crazy enough to deserve a suspension. Other than how paltry the fines are this seems fine
mattziki_bf
To me, that play was a literal textbook case of when the book needs to be thrown at a player. Retaliation for a prior play, throwing punches to a defenseless opponent repeatedly even when they still continued to not participate in the fight. That’s both instigator AND aggressor. It absolutely **needed** to be a 5, 10, and game misconduct. But instead, it was a 2. The refs absolutely failed to do their part in protecting player safety in this instance. Yeah, no one got seriously hurt, but it’s shit like this that makes teams think they can and SHOULD play beyond the rules and that’s how people get hurt.
Fighting: A fight shall be deemed to have occurred when at least one player punches or attempts to punch an opponent repeatedly or when two players wrestle in such a manner as to make it difficult for the Linespersons to intervene and separate the combatants.
Instigator: An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
Aggressor: The aggressor in an altercation shall be the player who continues to throw punches in an attempt to inflict punishment on his opponent who is in a defenseless position or who is an unwilling combatant.
Obrein jumped off the bench to attack lafferty while he is stepping OFF the ice. It was in response to a hit lafferty threw in the offensive zone (and a little crosscheck in the change area). Obrien pushed lafferty once, then dropped the gloves and started swinging while lafferty was still trying to back his way on to the bench. He kept swinging even after lafferty fell. To me, that’s at LEAST a clear instigator minor and major for fighting and a ten minute misconduct (the prescribed call for instigator + fight).
I don’t think i’ve personally ever seen the Aggressor call get made, but this meets the criteria for aggressor MORESO than instigator. If it were called as both, that would be 2, 5, 10 and a game misconduct. I wouldn’t expect this.
If it were just fighting and agressor, that would be 5 and a game misconduct. I also wouldn’t expect this.
At least call it a fucking fight, weak refs.
kwl1
It should’ve been 5 for fighting for O’Brien and a 10, or even a game for unsportsmanlike conduct.
wooshun67
Refs ignoring the big picture then thinking they can shut us up my giving the idiot softer penalties,
thundercat1996
O’Brien was such a baby last night, the hit was clean. Glad Zaddy rocked him later on
superschaap81
Couldn’t round that up to a quarter eh? What an absolutely specific number.
notmyrealnam3
should have been 7 minutes (5 for fighting, 2 for instigator) at a bare minimum on the ice
Hyper0059
Remember when Tom Sestito did the game, got 2 plus a 5 minute major, I think? Or was it 10 minutes? All I remember was we had to kill like a long 5 on 3 Powerplay.
OrganizationBoth6141
They should send Zadorov to collect
Hinkil
I feel like the players shouldn’t be part of negotiating the fines
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Yet the referee only gave him a 2 minute minor lol
Will player fines ever be increased to a level where it might actually affect any of the players? 2k is utterly pathetic (and that’s the max). In the NBA it’s sometimes hundreds of thousands, and I do realize they make a lot more, but still
Is there any footage for this?
Honestly he was a bit out of line there but didn’t go crazy enough to deserve a suspension. Other than how paltry the fines are this seems fine
To me, that play was a literal textbook case of when the book needs to be thrown at a player. Retaliation for a prior play, throwing punches to a defenseless opponent repeatedly even when they still continued to not participate in the fight. That’s both instigator AND aggressor. It absolutely **needed** to be a 5, 10, and game misconduct. But instead, it was a 2. The refs absolutely failed to do their part in protecting player safety in this instance. Yeah, no one got seriously hurt, but it’s shit like this that makes teams think they can and SHOULD play beyond the rules and that’s how people get hurt.
Fighting: A fight shall be deemed to have occurred when at least one player punches or attempts to punch an opponent repeatedly or when two players wrestle in such a manner as to make it difficult for the Linespersons to intervene and separate the combatants.
Instigator: An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation
to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
Aggressor: The aggressor in an altercation shall be the player who continues to throw punches in an attempt to inflict punishment on his opponent who is in a defenseless position or who is an unwilling combatant.
Obrein jumped off the bench to attack lafferty while he is stepping OFF the ice. It was in response to a hit lafferty threw in the offensive zone (and a little crosscheck in the change area). Obrien pushed lafferty once, then dropped the gloves and started swinging while lafferty was still trying to back his way on to the bench. He kept swinging even after lafferty fell. To me, that’s at LEAST a clear instigator minor and major for fighting and a ten minute misconduct (the prescribed call for instigator + fight).
I don’t think i’ve personally ever seen the Aggressor call get made, but this meets the criteria for aggressor MORESO than instigator. If it were called as both, that would be 2, 5, 10 and a game misconduct. I wouldn’t expect this.
If it were just fighting and agressor, that would be 5 and a game misconduct. I also wouldn’t expect this.
At least call it a fucking fight, weak refs.
It should’ve been 5 for fighting for O’Brien and a 10, or even a game for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Refs ignoring the big picture then thinking they can shut us up my giving the idiot softer penalties,
O’Brien was such a baby last night, the hit was clean. Glad Zaddy rocked him later on
Couldn’t round that up to a quarter eh? What an absolutely specific number.
should have been 7 minutes (5 for fighting, 2 for instigator) at a bare minimum on the ice
Remember when Tom Sestito did the game, got 2 plus a 5 minute major, I think? Or was it 10 minutes? All I remember was we had to kill like a long 5 on 3 Powerplay.
They should send Zadorov to collect
I feel like the players shouldn’t be part of negotiating the fines