#hockey #nhl #ottawasenators #philadelphiaflyers Last nights Ottawa Senators vs Philadelphia Flyers game had some weird goals with two light whistles from the refs.
I understand the thought process, but this sounds like it's telling the players to not stop shooting at the goal even if you hear the whistle because upon video review it could still count.
That’s an absolutely terrible call. If that is the rule, what about the no goal in Gm6 of the 2017 SCF? Both of the calls have the puck in motion towards the net, both had someone shoot after the whistle, both had an early whistle because the ref lost sight of the puck. There needs to be consistency in these calls, the league just can’t pretend suddenly that’s the rule.
The whistle means end of play. He lost sight of the puck and blew the whistle that means end of play. If this doesn’t mean end of play anymore then no matter when they blow the whistle just keep playing and this would be really interesting in the playoffs or the cup finals then we will see who is really on board with this call. Again the whistle signifies end of play.
The HUGE problem I have with this, is that blowing the whistle makes everyone stop by reflex. So if people stop playing because they hear a whistle, how is the play not affected by the whistle? Prob wouldnt have changed this situation, but you see what I mean?
I dunno, I don't like this. I play beer league and we are conditioned to stop when the whistle is blown. The guys that don't get the business handed to them. I'm sure most of the pros do the same thing. Legal call according to the rule but maybe the rule should change.
Giroux was not booed. He was given the same ROUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX that he got for his entire time here. He also got cheers and claps when his name was announced for starting lineup.
I was at this game and trust me when I say, we the fans had no idea what was going on. Half the stadium heard the call, where I was at my section never heard it. The 2nd time it happened it we did hear the whistle and were understandably confused and upset at the call when they called it a good Ottawa goal. Weirdest game I've been to
That's horseshit. He blew the whistle and that Flyers' player was cheating. He heard the whistle and decided to be a jack-ass and got away with it. He should've gotten two minutes for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. What if his retarded shot struck the goalie in the head? This stupid reversal is the reason fans are so frustrated w/ the rules and these refs using or abusing them on whims.
so if they cant blow the whistle but the goal counts what about when the pucks hits then and a goal is scored because of them can they or will they wave it off now that this can of worms is out
That’s ridiculous. When the ref blows the whistle that’s the end of the play and stoppage of the clock. To continue play and in this case get a goal well after the whistle has been blown completely removes the point of even having a whistle in the first place. Otherwise the players would just keep playing for 60 minutes straight or until the puck goes into the net.
As a goaltender this makes me sad. The whistle means and has ALWAYS meant that the game is stopped, whether the situation is vague or not. These players have learned to stop playing when hearing the whistle and by introducing these kinds of "new" rules, the refs and the classic hockey rulebook loses all of their/its authority. Don't get me wrong, it is a wrong call to blow the whistle, but then to double down on the dumbness and mistake… madness by the refs…
First Montreal scored a goal against Tampa, when most of the players had thought the play was dead, when in fact no whistle was heard and now this……This has been certianly been a weird year for hockey. I wonder what will be next?
I hate to say this, but now players are not going to stop playing whistle or no. I hate to say this, but there was events even last year where a linesman was holding a Sens player and the play was still going on and resulting a goal. That was just a joke that refs could prevent a player from defending in such a way. If he hadn't done so, the other players wouldn't have converged in that area and there wouldn't be any goals.
I used to say keep on playing until the whistle, but not feels players shouldn't stop playing no matter what.
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This is a bad rule.
Ambiguities and inconsistencies about the whistle being the end of play will lead to problems and potential dangerous situations.
If there's anything that should be black and white in the rulebook, it needs to be this.
The Ref intended to blow the play dead and intentionally blew the whistle but did not in fact blow the play dead after all?
So basically a goal won't count if the referee intended to whistle the play dead and the puck was put in before the whistle
But also a goal can count if the referee was wrong to try to stop play
No idea if I have this straight
I understand the thought process, but this sounds like it's telling the players to not stop shooting at the goal even if you hear the whistle because upon video review it could still count.
Bit late on this one bud. They did something very similar with a goal against the Rangers in the beginning of the season…
Wait…so the ref can call the play "dead in my head" (i.e. BEFORE the whistle)….AND…call the play OK AFTER the whistle?
That’s an absolutely terrible call. If that is the rule, what about the no goal in Gm6 of the 2017 SCF? Both of the calls have the puck in motion towards the net, both had someone shoot after the whistle, both had an early whistle because the ref lost sight of the puck. There needs to be consistency in these calls, the league just can’t pretend suddenly that’s the rule.
Why wasnt this rule used with nashville in the finals against penguins
Hearing Giroux getting booed in Philly is an absolute disgrace, Philly fans are really close to the bottom of the barrel in terms of fanbases
you blow the whistle… the play is dead! no buts, ands or ifs! sheesh man!!!
Doesn't this conflict with "intent to blow the whistle"?
Zamula—what a cool sounding hockey name…LOVE IT!
Have said this all season. The refs are terrible.
The whistle means end of play. He lost sight of the puck and blew the whistle that means end of play. If this doesn’t mean end of play anymore then no matter when they blow the whistle just keep playing and this would be really interesting in the playoffs or the cup finals then we will see who is really on board with this call. Again the whistle signifies end of play.
Giroux got more cheers than boos
titles getting more click baity eh? shame
as a nashville fan this rule gives me PTSD
Terrible call. If the whistle has blown the player shooting the puck after the whistle could be penalized. Instead it was a goal??
Refs ruined the game. What’s left of it
Did they find those referees at my local rink?
Either way, not the refs fault. Blame the NHL or the rule book not the referee.
The HUGE problem I have with this, is that blowing the whistle makes everyone stop by reflex. So if people stop playing because they hear a whistle, how is the play not affected by the whistle? Prob wouldnt have changed this situation, but you see what I mean?
I dunno, I don't like this. I play beer league and we are conditioned to stop when the whistle is blown. The guys that don't get the business handed to them. I'm sure most of the pros do the same thing. Legal call according to the rule but maybe the rule should change.
Giroux was not booed. He was given the same ROUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX that he got for his entire time here. He also got cheers and claps when his name was announced for starting lineup.
I was at this game and trust me when I say, we the fans had no idea what was going on. Half the stadium heard the call, where I was at my section never heard it. The 2nd time it happened it we did hear the whistle and were understandably confused and upset at the call when they called it a good Ottawa goal. Weirdest game I've been to
sens are depression
That's horseshit. He blew the whistle and that Flyers' player was cheating. He heard the whistle and decided to be a jack-ass and got away with it. He should've gotten two minutes for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. What if his retarded shot struck the goalie in the head? This stupid reversal is the reason fans are so frustrated w/ the rules and these refs using or abusing them on whims.
If this were the Sharks, they'd have claimed the whistle was "late," and the intent was a second or two earlier. LOL
Never forget that a call similar to that cost the Predators the 2017 Cup!
soooooooo play after the whistle
so if they cant blow the whistle but the goal counts what about when the pucks hits then and a goal is scored because of them can they or will they wave it off now that this can of worms is out
That’s ridiculous. When the ref blows the whistle that’s the end of the play and stoppage of the clock. To continue play and in this case get a goal well after the whistle has been blown completely removes the point of even having a whistle in the first place. Otherwise the players would just keep playing for 60 minutes straight or until the puck goes into the net.
The whistle 100% affects the play. If they blow the whistle, the play is dead. the NHL is also dead
Stupid rule.
As a goaltender this makes me sad. The whistle means and has ALWAYS meant that the game is stopped, whether the situation is vague or not. These players have learned to stop playing when hearing the whistle and by introducing these kinds of "new" rules, the refs and the classic hockey rulebook loses all of their/its authority. Don't get me wrong, it is a wrong call to blow the whistle, but then to double down on the dumbness and mistake… madness by the refs…
1-3 to 5-3 with so many odd goals and calls. Was a strange game.
How can anyone say the goal should count – ref blew the play dead – NHL and NFL refs are terrible
Refs are fools
Flyers are cheaters
First Montreal scored a goal against Tampa, when most of the players had thought the play was dead, when in fact no whistle was heard and now this……This has been certianly been a weird year for hockey. I wonder what will be next?
I hate to say this, but now players are not going to stop playing whistle or no. I hate to say this, but there was events even last year where a linesman was holding a Sens player and the play was still going on and resulting a goal. That was just a joke that refs could prevent a player from defending in such a way. If he hadn't done so, the other players wouldn't have converged in that area and there wouldn't be any goals.
I used to say keep on playing until the whistle, but not feels players shouldn't stop playing no matter what.
shit only happens to ottawa, absolutely cursed.
The goalie and all players stopped playing way before the puck was shot. In what world is this a good goal?
This is insanity.
As long as it was Ottawa I'm ok with it
nah, that's some bullshit. you play to the whistle. if the whistle is blown the play is over. nothing more to it.
I would rather loose to Giroux than the Pens 😂😂
Well the right call was to not blow the whistle so glad they got it right, both times in this game.
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