Wish they would use the word rebuild and not retool/remodel
weschester
Once we get back from the bye week its going to get very interesting. The only untouchables on this team should be Zary, Coronato, Huberdeau (because who would take that contract), Sharangovich, Weegar, and Andersson. Other than that: sell, sell, sell!
Admirable-Nerve-8289
Anyone think we should just trade our ufa’s now? Lindholm’s trade value is only getting worse and Tanev might get injured. I’d be okay with finding the best deal soon and then tanking for a good pick the rest of the season. I mean it’s pretty clear we are not making playoffs lol
brokensword15
We NEED to trade coleman
He has been absolutely clutch for us, his value will never be higher. The Devils or Leafs would kill for a guy like him right now
Itwasinin04
I used to be a huge Francis hater. But over the last couple years the dude doesn’t say shit unless he knows something’s going down, or close. He’s slowly turned into one of my most trusted and favorite guys in the flames media world. I don’t take anything he says these days lightly.
Wooden_Proposal_1615
This tweet should be forwarded to Murray.
MonkeySailor
Eh, from Conroy’s previous comments, seems like the intent was always on trading the UFA’s. But if this cements it or means the returns wills be more future based, or that even some of the veterans under contract will be moved, then great, I’ll take it.
But either way, the issue was less the Flames hesitating and more the market being dormant. Lack of cap space and other GM’s lowballing a rookie GM in Conroy were and still are the bigger issues. If other teams don’t step up and meet Conroy’s price, or at least negotiate a fairer one, then we’ll probably we waiting until the deadline for something to happen.
hellothisispatrick_s
Is something you can just declare? Like bankruptcy, by throwing your hands up and screaming it really loudly?
tristan1616
The whole Ruzicka waiver thing was incredibly poor timing
Due-Drummer-3434
I feel maybe the coaching isn’t super great currently
Chemical_Signal2753
I’m not sure if rebuild in the context of the Flames will match people’s expectations. I would expect:
1. Lindholm, Tanev, Vladar, and (possibly) Hanifin will be traded for young players or prospects, with some draft picks to balance the value. 2. Mangiapane will be moved in the offseason, possibly with salary retained, for a young player with upside.
That is likely the bulk of the rebuild.
PG_FlamesFan
Bit of a leap to go from good asset management and moving expiring contracts to a full on rebuild. Francis isn’t sharing anything that hasn’t been pretty obvious since the season started. Every team that has expiring deals and isn’t contending is going to sell their UFAs.
Rebuild means scorched earth, tear it to the studs and rock an AHL calibre team like the Sharks or Hawks. Trading a few vets doesn’t really make this team any worse, they already struggle terribly on the PP and have tons of defensive lapses. Playing the younger guys hasn’t really made that worse. Reality is their goaltending is probably too good right now to tank. To lose enough to get that top pick they would have to either have Wolf just getting destroyed night after night in the NHL, or have him in the AHL while rocking a tandem of NHL journeymen like the Hawks or Sharks are doing right now. The teams with shitty goalies are always the ones drafting high, the Flames have a lot of work to do to change that.
Biggest thing they need is an identity change, and I think they are slowly getting their with the young guys, and moving out some disinterested vets should help. They have solid building blocks in net with Wolf, a top D pair in Weegs and Andersson, and a bunch of solid young forwards, they just need to do a better job of building around that.
I’m curious to see what Connie can do and how he can reshape the mess Tre left him with. It sounds like his vision is to turn it around quicker and make it so these young guys learn how to win and want to stick around instead of jump ship after a couple years and being garbage and waiting for draft picks to develop.
I apologize for the rant, but I just think the rebuild thing is a pipe dream based on Flames MO and it has just as much, if not more, chance of turning into an Ottawa or Buffalo situation. They could suck and get another Benny, Mony and Chucky high up in consecutive drafts, or worse another Daniel Tkaczuk, and we saw how far that got them..
NoSpills
Since when do we care what Francis thinks? NGL, I agree with rebuild, but !Francis and his opinion
ZealousidealKey7104
MOAR RAIP BOIS
huuuuuyeah
Say it with me now:
“Even a broken clock is right twice a day”
irishkill
Please extend Hanifin
MeRyEh
FLAMES FIRE SALE!
Vivid_Walk_1405
What are yall looking for in a Lindholm trade? It’s no secret hes struggled pretty bad this season but he’s had really good seasons in the past even with the 82 point season being a fairly clear outlier. As a non flames fan I’ve seen a 1st and a prospect being what an insider threw out and what all the mock trades have shown
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Eric Francis good?
He summed it up pretty good
Wish they would use the word rebuild and not retool/remodel
Once we get back from the bye week its going to get very interesting. The only untouchables on this team should be Zary, Coronato, Huberdeau (because who would take that contract), Sharangovich, Weegar, and Andersson. Other than that: sell, sell, sell!
Anyone think we should just trade our ufa’s now? Lindholm’s trade value is only getting worse and Tanev might get injured. I’d be okay with finding the best deal soon and then tanking for a good pick the rest of the season. I mean it’s pretty clear we are not making playoffs lol
We NEED to trade coleman
He has been absolutely clutch for us, his value will never be higher. The Devils or Leafs would kill for a guy like him right now
I used to be a huge Francis hater. But over the last couple years the dude doesn’t say shit unless he knows something’s going down, or close. He’s slowly turned into one of my most trusted and favorite guys in the flames media world. I don’t take anything he says these days lightly.
This tweet should be forwarded to Murray.
Eh, from Conroy’s previous comments, seems like the intent was always on trading the UFA’s. But if this cements it or means the returns wills be more future based, or that even some of the veterans under contract will be moved, then great, I’ll take it.
But either way, the issue was less the Flames hesitating and more the market being dormant. Lack of cap space and other GM’s lowballing a rookie GM in Conroy were and still are the bigger issues. If other teams don’t step up and meet Conroy’s price, or at least negotiate a fairer one, then we’ll probably we waiting until the deadline for something to happen.
Is something you can just declare? Like bankruptcy, by throwing your hands up and screaming it really loudly?
The whole Ruzicka waiver thing was incredibly poor timing
I feel maybe the coaching isn’t super great currently
I’m not sure if rebuild in the context of the Flames will match people’s expectations. I would expect:
1. Lindholm, Tanev, Vladar, and (possibly) Hanifin will be traded for young players or prospects, with some draft picks to balance the value.
2. Mangiapane will be moved in the offseason, possibly with salary retained, for a young player with upside.
That is likely the bulk of the rebuild.
Bit of a leap to go from good asset management and moving expiring contracts to a full on rebuild. Francis isn’t sharing anything that hasn’t been pretty obvious since the season started. Every team that has expiring deals and isn’t contending is going to sell their UFAs.
Rebuild means scorched earth, tear it to the studs and rock an AHL calibre team like the Sharks or Hawks. Trading a few vets doesn’t really make this team any worse, they already struggle terribly on the PP and have tons of defensive lapses. Playing the younger guys hasn’t really made that worse. Reality is their goaltending is probably too good right now to tank. To lose enough to get that top pick they would have to either have Wolf just getting destroyed night after night in the NHL, or have him in the AHL while rocking a tandem of NHL journeymen like the Hawks or Sharks are doing right now. The teams with shitty goalies are always the ones drafting high, the Flames have a lot of work to do to change that.
Biggest thing they need is an identity change, and I think they are slowly getting their with the young guys, and moving out some disinterested vets should help. They have solid building blocks in net with Wolf, a top D pair in Weegs and Andersson, and a bunch of solid young forwards, they just need to do a better job of building around that.
I’m curious to see what Connie can do and how he can reshape the mess Tre left him with. It sounds like his vision is to turn it around quicker and make it so these young guys learn how to win and want to stick around instead of jump ship after a couple years and being garbage and waiting for draft picks to develop.
I apologize for the rant, but I just think the rebuild thing is a pipe dream based on Flames MO and it has just as much, if not more, chance of turning into an Ottawa or Buffalo situation. They could suck and get another Benny, Mony and Chucky high up in consecutive drafts, or worse another Daniel Tkaczuk, and we saw how far that got them..
Since when do we care what Francis thinks? NGL, I agree with rebuild, but !Francis and his opinion
MOAR RAIP BOIS
Say it with me now:
“Even a broken clock is right twice a day”
Please extend Hanifin
FLAMES FIRE SALE!
What are yall looking for in a Lindholm trade? It’s no secret hes struggled pretty bad this season but he’s had really good seasons in the past even with the 82 point season being a fairly clear outlier. As a non flames fan I’ve seen a 1st and a prospect being what an insider threw out and what all the mock trades have shown