[Dhaliwal] Friedman on Chicago after Andrei Kuzmenko : Blackhawks need scoring and they have the cap space. Canucks are also trying to free up cap space. Chicago has looked into Kuzmenko, they don’t want term and Kuzmenko has just 1 year left after this season.
Friedman on Chicago after Andrie Kuzmenko : Blackhawks need scoring and they have the cap space. #Canucks are also trying to free up cap space. Chicago has looked into Kuzmenko, they don't want term and Kuzmenko has just 1 year left after this season.
.— Rick Dhaliwal (@DhaliwalSports) January 29, 2024
by PaperMoonShine
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I just want Kuzy to score like last year and eat bananas with a smile on his face.
Please don’t dish Kuzy.
I suspect the conversation with Kuz has been something like “you have until after the All-Star Break to decide if you want to stay with the org.. you have 10 days to do whatever you need to get to the caliber we need from you.”
Dickinson redemption arc?
Kuzi and our ‘24 third for their ‘24 First. We’ll even pre pack a bundle of bananas and a flat of Pepsi. Who says no?
I don’t know what Kuzy’s return would even be as his value likely has taken a bit of a hit. Don’t know how generous the Blackhawks would even be on the return, especially in a more rebuild situation. If it’s a pick, would like to see us use that to get another piece to the roster: either a quality winger to work with Petey or a quality 2C if we wanna run with the lotto line.
What/who would we want from Chicago? Their young defenseman (Korchinski, Vlasic) would cost us a lot more than just Kuzy. They have some good veterans (Foligni, Johnson) but they come with a pretty big cap hit. Ryan Donato and a pick? Taylor Raddysh and a pick?
Kuz for two 2nds.
Canucks fans: we’ll do it for Bedard.
I suppose we can take Bedard.
I would imagine the return for Kuzmenko for the Canucks would be a mid round pick maybe a 2nd but likely a 3rd given Chicago is not starved for draft picks and it actually makes a lot of sense for both teams. Kuzmenko’s cap hit is prohibitive to a lot of teams but not a team like Chicago it’s low in term and his potential is still high for a bounceback, so for a team like Chicago who while rebuilding needs someone to play with their superstar youngster it’s a smart gamble to take. At best he regains form and you keep him long term to ride shotgun with Bedard, at worst he doesn’t rebound, he’s a bad contract on your books for only one more season and he presumably goes back to Russia. For Vancouver, this would help because not only would it free up almost 6 million in cap space for an add, but presumably the Chicago pick would be either packaged in a seperate deal to add a different player a la Beauvillier, or held onto to maintain some higher value picks in the draft presuming that the first rounder this season is as good as gone by the deadline.
I really like Kuzmenko, and I think he still has a lot of potential to be the guy that we all saw last year, but I don’t think at this point the Canucks can afford to wait and see if that can happen. If they could switch Kuzmenko’s spot with a surefire top six option, it would take the team that much closer to true contender status.
Personally I don’t see Kuzy going to Chicago. They’re not going to want to trade anything we actually need.
Kuzy for Bedard and a 1st. Thanks Chicago!
Bedard untouchable. Let’s take the next person on their roster based upon the best stats.
……. Jason Dickinson, come on down!
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… while he clearly doesn’t fit in our line-up, and I’m glad we offloaded that contract, I do always wonder how he would have played in Tocchet’s system. Something about the way things went under Boudreau that just never clicked with him.
This is clearly moving him and his cap hit out for a pick then reallocating the picks/cap space in another transaction
The extra cap would be nice.
Though losing Kuz would be sad…
The play for Kuzy is to swap him for another underachieving high ceiling winger. I was thinking Tyler Bertuzzi.
How about we just borrow Bedard for the playoffs? This would complete the 2011 revenge tour.
We absolutely should not trade Kuzy! I bought a jersey last year from a fellow redditor, and for this, he should retire a Canuck
Yeah Kuzmenko will likely need to go in the off season because of the cap crunch. I’d love to see him reach his potential, and I have hopes that he can, but we have no cap space. Myers coming off the books will immediately be taken up by Petterson Hronek extensions. On top of that, we have quite a few key depth players on expiring contracts that need to be re-signed or replaced, like Myers himself, Joshua, Cole or Blueger
The coach has deconstructed Kuzmenko and it would be a shame if he were traded before they can work things out. I think Tocchet is reconstructing Kuz into being a 30 goal scorer again but with greater defensive awareness.
The two have already shown incredible chemistry together last season and every player slumps. I hope the team just gives him more time. He might reboot in the playoffs.
edit: chemistry with Pettersson in regards to trading Kuz for another top six guy.
Finee well take an injured Bedard for him 🤷🏻♂️
Don’t want term, handing out awful contracts to Foligno and Dickenson…
Suss
We need sleeper agent Kuzy to score a shit ton of goals for Chicago and keep them away from Celebrini 🙏🏼
Kuzy for Beau lol
I would like to think he is worth more. But I could see Kuzya being the sweetner to retain on player from a third team.
Kuzy for Bedard and a first and I might consider it
That kid from North Vancouver with the hot mom? Yeah, we’ll take him off your hands.
If trading Kuzmenko frees up the cap and gives the Canucks some more assets to swing a deal for a guy like Lindholm or another big name guy that Allvin thinks pushes us over the top, do it.
If it’s a trade that’s just cap space with no big follow up move, keep him , see how he does the rest of the season and move him in the off-season if we need cap for re-signing Hronek.
I love kuzy, but if it makes sense let’s do it. I just don’t wanna have to pay to dump him. He’s still one year removed from a 40 goal season… I’d rather keep him as depth unless Chicago actually pays up for him.
I sense a multiple team trade incoming
I like Kuzmenko, I like the guy…but if Chicago comes knocking with a trade offer, the Canucks should seriously consider it.
Might make sense to trade Kuzy for decent draft picks,and move Hogs and Podz up in the lines,saves us some cap to sign Petterson.Would be a great move for Kuzy too as he is likely to get consistent ice time in Chicago.
Really hope we don’t move on from Kuzmenko when his value is at its lowest. He showed what he could do in the right environment last year and while the fit in Tocchet’s system hasn’t been great there’s still a great player in there somewhere.
Our 2nd and Chicago’s 3rd?
Should try to do a 3-team trade.
Give Chicago Kuzmenko
Chicago sends a 2nd to Montreal
We give a 2nd to Montreal
Montreal sends us Monahan
Or switch out Monahan with Henrique and change the 2nd to a 3rd