Bomani Jones and Nick Wright discuss CJ Stroud’s amazing rookie year and why his success might be an outlier. Plus they breakdown Caleb Williams and why the Bears should sit him while playing Justin Fields next year.
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39 Comments
I love Bo, but it feels like you gotta pull teeth for him to give HTown sports any love. š
The case for sit v.s. Play depends largely on the supporting cast and coaching. Soooo many 1st round QBs are called busts when they get drafted to bad teams, without a good coach. Love can be used as an argument for sitting a young guy behind a veteran, but it needs to be the right veteran. You can start some rookies if they show they can handle it. CJ Stroud is not the rule, he is the exception to the rule. He came into a team with some underrated talent and has top notch coaching to put him in good positions. Most QBs donāt show what CJ has until years 6 and 7, not as rookies.
This is a stupid take lol.
Yes they should wait a year. Just look at the packers for the last 25 years there's the answer. Unless it's like a caleb number 1 type and u have coaching and a O line let em wait 15 games..it won't hurt them
Being honest, Bryce Young is still unknown. U don't know if he will be a good quarterback or not, because he's been running for his life behind that BS OL ever since he got drafted
Bums?
The texans are not bums,You a bum… Watch yo mouth
Most qb should sit. But coaching is the most important thing even for Pat. Its a lot of bad coaching in the league
Let the Love vs Stroud date begin! Greenbay obviously knows what they are doing with QBs, so sitting your QB for 3 years seem to work out. CJ is a special guy with a special coach….we won the lottery in Houston š¤š¤š»š¤š¼š¤š½š¤š¾š¤šæ, but Green Bay has a recipe with 11 herbs and spices š. This is beautiful
calib will be a bust to much of a sissy grown men wont follow him in the NFL
The Bears take makes no sense because if Justin Fields is able to put it together then heāll be better than Caleb Williams. Williams is good and has potential, but I really donāt see the āgenerationalā label yāall keep throwing around. He canāt do anything that Fields canāt and pretty much has the same weaknesses.
Also, why would Fields want to continue playing for the team if he knew they were just trying to trade him? It sounds weird, but he really has nothing to prove, we all see the obvious talent thatās being squandered. Heās statistically considered one of the worst QBs in the league and yet still has ppl lining up to trade for him, he really doesnāt have to participate if he doesnāt want to.
If the Bears do draft Williams tho I completely agree that he should sit for a season, Iām tired of them throwing their QBs to the wolves.
Who you calling Bums bro??
You donāt buy a possible Ferrari just to keep driving the Honda ā¦..
Bums ???? ššWho Bums??
If Caleb William is such a great prospect why wouldnāt you want him to play. CJ did it no problem. Are you saying Caleb is not going to be close to CJ Stroud so you want him to sit out a year?
Who in the hell ypu calling bums? Demeco? Cj? Harris? Collins? Cashman?
Nick Wright, aka, Donald Driverās stunt double. š¤£
Itās funny cause no Ohio State fan is surprised by stroud. Heās the definition of scout the player not the helmet
Did he just call the Texans receivers bums ?? So much disrespect
Bums ?
They only mentioned guys Like Mahomes and J Love for guys who wasnāt starters Week 1, but Watson didnāt start, Herbert didnāt start, Lamar didnāt start, Baker Mayfield didnāt start, (now they all played their rook year, but most of them was due to injuries or awful QB play. So yeah it isnāt crazy for teams to sit 1st round pick Qbs a year (OR THAT BE THE INTIAL PLAN)
This helps the overwhelming majority of players develop. People forget that it used to be normal for even high draft pick QBs to sit behind a seasoned vet for a few seasons before seeing the field (unless they're already pretty old). Very few guys can come into the league "ready to go" and ball out while they're also really young. People like Lamar Jackson (21yr old as a starter) are the exception and even he had some games behind Flacco.
QB waiting a year is the dumbest shit ever unless your online is trash
Fool, Justin ain't going to play if the bears pick that dude, kelab who.. You need to cut it…
TF this clown mean by "bums"? This the same idiot that talked down on the organization, telling black coaching candidates they need not apply for a job with the Texans, the same BS stephen a myth was saying. Str8 š¤”
caleb williams is overrated
I would take Penix Jr over all of the other QBās in this draft
The only person that I heard say CJ Stroud was the better pick than Young was Frank Reich and that poor fellow was fired because Carolina took Young. Itās funny as h*ll but Iām not laughing.š®š®
That yards per game/TD-Int ratio combo stat is insane. And there's another crazy stat Stroud put up earlier this season, he went 3 straight games with 200 something AIR yards per game (can't find the exact number but it was 200 plus) and that air yards number Pat Mahomes has only hit 3 times in his whole damn career, Burrow has only done it once or twice, and there's a couple great QBs who have never done it. And Stroud did it 3 straight damn games, in the middle of his f'n rookie season. Special special talent.
Those bums?!
No you go get Marvin Harrison. Thatās crazy . Unless you trade Fields. You need to pick Marvin Harrison. Thatās a true generational talent. He can run every route already.
How can you call a team a bunch of Bums, that went 10-7 with a rookie HC and QB. These two are so bad itās unbelievable
When you need to build a team, going QB crazy is to your detriment. Itās like throwing away draft capital. Caleb is a one read QB. Electric arm. Quick feet. Yes, he could be Pat Mahomes. However, Pat had a team with QB. We are still building. You are trying to replace one of the NFL most explosive talents. For an unknown. I think your lack of respect for Justin, comes from not watching his games. Check out how much he has to do, in order to make stupid plays work. He has to deny multiple sacks on most plays. Give a guy like that time, he can light up a defense. Iām shocked to of the most intelligent men in sports talk have no love for the only guy that can do what Mr Jackson does, but he is faster. If you donāt like Justin, itās because you are swallowing the narrative.
The half tick comes from a š©y offensive line. If your follow through has your throwing hand landing on helmets and edge rushers, you need to create more space. Iām done. If you donāt like Justin, it says something about you. Too lazy to watch the F ing tape
āToo small obviouslyā when the guy he wouldāve taken first got hurt five games in
There are a number of factors one being the team that's drafting the quarter back. How fast can the quarter back retain the knowledge be given to him. The teams culture is the head coach on the way out, and is there a supporting cast to support him if they are forced to play him. An lastly is ownership willing to be patient and let that quarterback grow and get better
The reason QB are forced to play early now is because of the money. If you wait until year 2,3,4 by the time they are ready to go now you have to tear the team down because you have to pay your QB. Love with Green Bay took a very team friendly extension which is very rare.
Phillip Rivers sat behind Drew Brees nothing wrong with that
Stroud was ballin out for two years at TOSU. Nick the "expert"šacts like thats news to him