Surprises no one but the most hopeful fans who were frankly trying to convince themselves against the overwhelming evidence in front of them. Can’t say I blame them, but here we are.
Sad to see nevertheless.
KodakisWhite
Extremely disappointed at the flames organization for proclaiming mental health
No-Nebula-653
“Mental health leave”
robochobo
Honestly this just further shows how much Seravelli has no clue what he’s talking about. Can’t wait to see how he’ll back track from his previous statements
super6646
The PR statement by the Flames continues to baffle and disappoint me. Even if you want to say that Dube was having a crisis at that point, why not simple say he’s on leave and refuse any additional comment? You have to be naive to believe that no one in the organization knew what was coming.
Now anytime a player has mental health leave in the future, the speculation machine is going to be rampant. Good going Flames.
Comfortable-Ad-7158
Conny got some explaining to do to both the fans and Brian Mcgratten. Dude tried so hard to get a mental health program instated here.
I know once an employee says it’s mental health problems the employer isn’t allowed to further press but still. I’d be livid if I were kylington
Nice-End-4742
Assuming the org didnt know anything, Dube is a pos for claiming mental health leave. big middle finger to the whole organization, especially after the kylington saga.
If the org did know, then thats even worse.
Iphone4Lyfe
What a disgrace to the Flames organization for calling this a mental health issue.
Wooden_Proposal_1615
Dube was the captain!!! Like wtf Dube, no wonder he’s been playing like shit! They all deserve everything they get
Lizard798658866
Looks really bad after the Kylington situation. Wow.
TL10
I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until names were public.
This sucks dude. So many people failed on different levels to properly manage this situation and worst of all it looks like the Flames circled their wagons around a sex offender.
I hope Dube never plays again, but I also hope that he gets the help he needs, *if* he truly is experiencing mental health problems. Self-harm/suicide is not justice for what he did, and anyone wishing that on him is no better.
I want Hockey Canada to burn. These guys were not the first and unlikely to be the last to victimize innocent people. They’ve lost my trust and ruined the integrity of the game.
Paulhockey77
Well that’s the end of Dube
natefrost12
I hope the Flames make a statement about their initial statement. I also hope Dube never plays another game in the NHL
W-MK29
At least we get rid of his absolute disaster of a contract. Piece of shit.
Boodogs
In a hypothetical situation, Dube might’ve thought about killing himself. Which would be consistent with the team stating he was on mental health leave in the care of medical professionals and consistent with him facing the music for being a rapist.
MisfitFlame
If the flames don’t make a statement about this soon, seriously considering taking a break from the team/sport. The on-ice product is a joke and now the off-ice product is using mental health as a coverup for being a rapist.
Edit: saw the Kaplan tweet saying players were told not to tell the teams. Will give the flames the benefit of the doubt for now but would still like a statement from the team
ReactiveCypress
The team is definitely going to have to explain what happened. I can’t actually believe Dube was stupid enough to try and use mental health as an excuse to cover this up, because the truth was going to be revealed no matter what.
Monahan88
I think Andersson’s comments are the most interesting part of all this. Basically implying that Dube was getting attacked on social media (for bad play or, you know, being a piece of shit). Makes you wonder what he told his teammates as well
MonkeySailor
Flames look like idiots for letting Dube dictate the message. They’ll need to answer for it.
Pretty disappointing that Dube was involved. Only silver lining is that his contracts was ending anyway and Flames can easily walk away from it.
marlboro__man9
Dube citing mental health to save himself what, two days of scrutiny? Looks extra scummy
Barabarabbit
Dube should be punted for trying to use “mental health” as an excuse here
Absolutely disgusting to do something like that. Could have just went on “personal leave” and left it at that
JayLady2002
Fuck you Dube. Hope you never play another NHL game
DavidssonA
Fuck… What fucking idiots. I really somehow wanted to believe Dube was the witness. Based on everything that was happening and everything said… Dont ask dont tell…
TGIRiley
The mental health excuse is abhorrent.
I’m also pissed off the flames knew for how long? and let us all continue to cheer for a rapist, and make money selling us jerseys with a rapists name on it.
Yea the skeptics will say “maybe they didn’t know, guilty until proven innocent”… sure, but I think pretty much every GM in the league knew exactly who was involved. Look at how Ottawa handled it. Tampa traded Foote, Vancouver passed on him even though his dad is their coach. Flyers desperately trying to move hart over the summer.
I dont buy it for a second the flames didn’t know exactly the involvement, and if they didn’t, they are one of the most incompetent management and owner groups in the NHL.
When I watched the doc that was posted a while ago, the part that stuck out to me was the Nike exec sending em home with the player. Who is a Nike exec sending a girl home with? Most likely the captain. Could be wrong but that part to me really implemented dube.
JJbeefsupreme
If convicted (hopefully they are if they did it). Throw the book at them, and the NHL will need to step up and not allow them to play professionally again. This behavior has no place in hockey or our society as a whole.
The scars for sexual assault victims don’t go away.
MonkeySailor
Flames are getting called out for their tone deaf PR messaging and rightfully so. What a miserable way of pissing away the good will of how they managed Kylington by then turning around and defending a rapist in Dube. Will be interesting to see what Murray Edwards does because if there’s one thing he hates, it’s getting humiliated. At the very least, who ever crafted that “mental health” statement deserves to be fired.
It’s also worth remembering that Jake Bean was on that same 2018 team. He’s the son of Flames President and CEO John Bean.
JRP_964
All 5 of those players have had pretty mediocre careers so far too. I don’t know what the outcome of this will be but hopefully whatever it is, is the right and justifiable one.
hellodankess
Reminds me of the great Norm MacDonald quote, “The comedian Patton Oswalt, he told me “I think the worst part of the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy.” And I disagree. I thought it was the r*ping”
torontowinsthecup
Based on the article from tsn, and just using my own critical thinking, it’s very likely that the one player who had consensual sexual contact with her will be able to confirm that the other men did sexually assault her. They are in big legal trouble. Scumbags.
Individual_Potato629
Flames better explain after this. The only acceptable answer is they didn’t know and Dube lied to them. Any other response calls for a MASSIVE boycot.
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Surprises no one but the most hopeful fans who were frankly trying to convince themselves against the overwhelming evidence in front of them. Can’t say I blame them, but here we are.
Sad to see nevertheless.
Extremely disappointed at the flames organization for proclaiming mental health
“Mental health leave”
Honestly this just further shows how much Seravelli has no clue what he’s talking about. Can’t wait to see how he’ll back track from his previous statements
The PR statement by the Flames continues to baffle and disappoint me. Even if you want to say that Dube was having a crisis at that point, why not simple say he’s on leave and refuse any additional comment? You have to be naive to believe that no one in the organization knew what was coming.
Now anytime a player has mental health leave in the future, the speculation machine is going to be rampant. Good going Flames.
Conny got some explaining to do to both the fans and Brian Mcgratten. Dude tried so hard to get a mental health program instated here.
I know once an employee says it’s mental health problems the employer isn’t allowed to further press but still. I’d be livid if I were kylington
Assuming the org didnt know anything, Dube is a pos for claiming mental health leave. big middle finger to the whole organization, especially after the kylington saga.
If the org did know, then thats even worse.
What a disgrace to the Flames organization for calling this a mental health issue.
Dube was the captain!!! Like wtf Dube, no wonder he’s been playing like shit! They all deserve everything they get
Looks really bad after the Kylington situation. Wow.
I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until names were public.
This sucks dude. So many people failed on different levels to properly manage this situation and worst of all it looks like the Flames circled their wagons around a sex offender.
I hope Dube never plays again, but I also hope that he gets the help he needs, *if* he truly is experiencing mental health problems. Self-harm/suicide is not justice for what he did, and anyone wishing that on him is no better.
I want Hockey Canada to burn. These guys were not the first and unlikely to be the last to victimize innocent people. They’ve lost my trust and ruined the integrity of the game.
Well that’s the end of Dube
I hope the Flames make a statement about their initial statement. I also hope Dube never plays another game in the NHL
At least we get rid of his absolute disaster of a contract. Piece of shit.
In a hypothetical situation, Dube might’ve thought about killing himself. Which would be consistent with the team stating he was on mental health leave in the care of medical professionals and consistent with him facing the music for being a rapist.
If the flames don’t make a statement about this soon, seriously considering taking a break from the team/sport. The on-ice product is a joke and now the off-ice product is using mental health as a coverup for being a rapist.
Edit: saw the Kaplan tweet saying players were told not to tell the teams. Will give the flames the benefit of the doubt for now but would still like a statement from the team
The team is definitely going to have to explain what happened. I can’t actually believe Dube was stupid enough to try and use mental health as an excuse to cover this up, because the truth was going to be revealed no matter what.
I think Andersson’s comments are the most interesting part of all this. Basically implying that Dube was getting attacked on social media (for bad play or, you know, being a piece of shit). Makes you wonder what he told his teammates as well
Flames look like idiots for letting Dube dictate the message. They’ll need to answer for it.
Pretty disappointing that Dube was involved. Only silver lining is that his contracts was ending anyway and Flames can easily walk away from it.
Dube citing mental health to save himself what, two days of scrutiny? Looks extra scummy
Dube should be punted for trying to use “mental health” as an excuse here
Absolutely disgusting to do something like that. Could have just went on “personal leave” and left it at that
Fuck you Dube. Hope you never play another NHL game
Fuck…
What fucking idiots. I really somehow wanted to believe Dube was the witness. Based on everything that was happening and everything said…
Dont ask dont tell…
The mental health excuse is abhorrent.
I’m also pissed off the flames knew for how long? and let us all continue to cheer for a rapist, and make money selling us jerseys with a rapists name on it.
Yea the skeptics will say “maybe they didn’t know, guilty until proven innocent”… sure, but I think pretty much every GM in the league knew exactly who was involved. Look at how Ottawa handled it. Tampa traded Foote, Vancouver passed on him even though his dad is their coach. Flyers desperately trying to move hart over the summer.
I dont buy it for a second the flames didn’t know exactly the involvement, and if they didn’t, they are one of the most incompetent management and owner groups in the NHL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CalgaryFlames/s/huwGGtjwLm
Delete this
When I watched the doc that was posted a while ago, the part that stuck out to me was the Nike exec sending em home with the player. Who is a Nike exec sending a girl home with? Most likely the captain. Could be wrong but that part to me really implemented dube.
If convicted (hopefully they are if they did it). Throw the book at them, and the NHL will need to step up and not allow them to play professionally again. This behavior has no place in hockey or our society as a whole.
The scars for sexual assault victims don’t go away.
Flames are getting called out for their tone deaf PR messaging and rightfully so. What a miserable way of pissing away the good will of how they managed Kylington by then turning around and defending a rapist in Dube. Will be interesting to see what Murray Edwards does because if there’s one thing he hates, it’s getting humiliated. At the very least, who ever crafted that “mental health” statement deserves to be fired.
It’s also worth remembering that Jake Bean was on that same 2018 team. He’s the son of Flames President and CEO John Bean.
All 5 of those players have had pretty mediocre careers so far too. I don’t know what the outcome of this will be but hopefully whatever it is, is the right and justifiable one.
Reminds me of the great Norm MacDonald quote, “The comedian Patton Oswalt, he told me “I think the worst part of the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy.” And I disagree. I thought it was the r*ping”
Based on the article from tsn, and just using my own critical thinking, it’s very likely that the one player who had consensual sexual contact with her will be able to confirm that the other men did sexually assault her. They are in big legal trouble. Scumbags.
Flames better explain after this. The only acceptable answer is they didn’t know and Dube lied to them. Any other response calls for a MASSIVE boycot.
Fuck you Dube.