it’s year 3 of him being unable to perform like a top 6 RW, LAF leapfrogged him in his first year trying a new position, and there’s better prospects at wing ready to come up now. 3 coaches have felt this way about him
if a package including Kakko can get a real top 6 RW, it is a lot easier to replace him at RW3
MrBogey90
I really wanted Kakko to happen. This makes me sad
FTPMUTRM
Kakko in a package for zucc plz
blueline7677
I doubt this happens. Like I really doubt we move him for a rental. If we trade for Zegras could Kakko be involved? Yeah but not for a rental
Mfed23
This would not be for a rental or Drury should be fire on the spot
rdx8
Please
SpaceBass18
I don’t see it happening tbh. He’s young, inexpensive, and helps build a solid bottom six come playoff time.
iamwilliamwit
Makes perfect sense. He’s failed to produce as a 2OA or even a top-6 RW most of the time he’s been here. He’s also prone to injury setbacks, and seems to take a while to get back in sync (though that’s understandable). Bottom line, he’s a great kid that’s failed to live up to anywhere near what we expected and it’s year 5. What we’ve seen is what we’re going to get. Laf and Chytil both made jumps but Kakko hasn’t budged off of being a 3RW at best.
And luckily, he’s feels better and has finally scored a few points the last few games, so interest is there. I say move him and let’s get a true RW.
LetsGoNYR
Despite what the the Kakko cultists want to say this is 100% the correct move. Best get value for him in anyway possible. He’s a bust at 2 OA.
theygotsquid
The fact that it’s Darren Dreger saying this means that the message that KK is available is either A. coming from Drury or B. coming from Kakko’s agent. Curious as to which it is.
NotFoley
Wonder what scrub Drury will trade for this time.
RIPCountryMac
A reminder that “taking calls” does not mean he’s actively being shipped, and if a GM isn’t taking calls on a player than he isn’t doing his job
NYM32
This would be Buchnevich trade all over again, which isn’t surprising with the same GM in charge
Imagine trading a 22 year old who just put up 37 even strength points in ~14 min of even strength ice time
Rangers would be total fucking morons to do this. They haven’t replaced Buchnevich since the trade, Kakko has been the best replacement they’ve had, and he’s been really good, and now they’re exploring trade options? Fucking clown show
Stonewall30NY
Taking calls doesn’t mean he’s on the trading block and unless someone wants to severely over pay for him, pass I want him here
Gbeez22
Bad move if true imo. High ceiling, he’s only 22, and him on the third line makes the team much deeper. He’s defensively solid and we see the offensive upside. Idc how low his points are rn, players click in an instant in this league. He’s cheap rn and worth being patient on.
booshyschmoozy
One thing missing from most people’s thought process here is cap space. Yes, Kakko has underperformed relative to his draft spot. I still see hope in his game, but I don’t know that he’ll ever produce to the expectation of a 2OA pick.
That said, he’s still a very useful player and one who would be very cost effective for a few more years. Having a plug and play, defensively responsible 3rd line RW at >5% of the cap is huge for any team hoping for a deep playoff run. If Drury is kicking the tires, that’s definitely something they have to weigh in any potential trade.
Shoddy_Reserve788
It sucks. I wanted Laf and Kakko to pan out so bad really will support them until the end but there’s only so much you can take.
funkingrizzly
OMG this sub is going to spontaneously combust
_Noah93
I’d honestly rather keep him. At the very least we get an affordable middle six winger that plays good defence and has some good advance stats offensively. He’s still young and can still develop at an affordable price. So unless we get an actual asset back that isn’t a rental and is a top 6 forward and fairly affordable I rather kk.
idkaboutth1s
This better not be for another rental. We are cap strapped, have lots of players that need new contracts coming up, and are inconsistent defensively. Why trade away a cheap defensive right winger? He fits our needs very well. We don’t have any other promising RW on the roster. Kakko is definitely not 2OA level at all but still valuable to us.
We need to get a player who will be here long term and preferably a RW.
Also we need grit and effort in the playoffs based on what people say and past moves by this FO. Kakko’s defense and board play is literally gritty play. It’s sorely needed for us and works very well in tandem with Cuylle hitting everyone.
Zero-jiggler
This would be the ultimate sell low. I think everyone can agree he’s at least a little better than this season’s stat line suggests. Unless Drury gets a crazy overpay, this should not happen, at least not this deadline.
Krispyford
Just because he can’t score and is a bust at his draft number, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. He’s not a top 6 guy, but I don’t think we need to necessarily trade him because of that.
RedLegRey
This sucks. I know life isn’t fair but the devils got a superstar and our team got a decent player. Why can’t the Rangers get the superstar forward?
srslymrarm
Well, I see two options here:
He either stays with us and continues to underperform, or we trade him to a team where he skyrockets to a PPG player.
Which do we prefer?
MikeyLikeyPhish
What kind of value does Kakko have around the league?
MyNameIsLegend
It only makes sense to trade him when his value is at his absolute lowest, we have no depth at RW, and his contract is perfectly affordable for the value he currently provides the team.
I would love for people to be able to separate what a player is, could be, and was expected to be. Kakko isn’t what he was expected to be but he **is** still a very valuable contributor as a depth piece, and is by no means a finished product with no room for improvement.
Is there no trade I would include him? Of course not. I don’t mind Drury taking calls on him, but we should be hesitant to move him. If there was a trade analogous to the Buch trade and we were acquiring a 1RW who we could sign for cheap with term, I’d be fine with him being the piece. I don’t see that being that really being the case.
KingJames_684
Kakko and Schneider for Zegras
Jokercard08
This org deserves nothing but misery and failure.
hamdelivery
Would hate to see it. He’s one of our only genuinely good defensive players
rvbcaboose1018
As much as it sucks, the Rangers have to realize that some of the kids just don’t have much of a future here. Kakko can’t score and Miller makes too many defensive mistakes. I expect both will be traded in the off season
aksack
Kakko is a supposed defensive gem who has under 40 minutes on the PK in his career. That let’s you know in part what they think about him.
Crimson3312
Direct_Crab6651
Hallelujah
He got another contract as a sign of faith. That faith has not been remotely rewarded.
It’s time for him to go, not only for the good of the club but for himself. Maybe he can find his game somewhere else but I will be happy to no longer hear how he is actually Wayne Gretzky if you look at some obscure advanced metric where If he has the puck along the left board in home games where the moon is its waxing crescent phase, he is the best player in hockey.
ThorsImba69
Here’s a fun stat for all the people trying to scapegoat Kakko. Since he’s returned from injury, the only forward with more goals than him is Bread. I understand you’re disappointed that he’s not Huges.
This team has 1 good offensive line and 1 good defenseman. Oh and a good backup goalie. Now if the return for Kakko is a complete 3rd line, a 1st line wing, 2-3 defensemen and a restraining order for the bromance duo so they can focus on not sucking….this may just be our year. 😀
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this is not surprising.
it’s year 3 of him being unable to perform like a top 6 RW, LAF leapfrogged him in his first year trying a new position, and there’s better prospects at wing ready to come up now. 3 coaches have felt this way about him
if a package including Kakko can get a real top 6 RW, it is a lot easier to replace him at RW3
I really wanted Kakko to happen. This makes me sad
Kakko in a package for zucc plz
I doubt this happens. Like I really doubt we move him for a rental. If we trade for Zegras could Kakko be involved? Yeah but not for a rental
This would not be for a rental or Drury should be fire on the spot
Please
I don’t see it happening tbh. He’s young, inexpensive, and helps build a solid bottom six come playoff time.
Makes perfect sense. He’s failed to produce as a 2OA or even a top-6 RW most of the time he’s been here. He’s also prone to injury setbacks, and seems to take a while to get back in sync (though that’s understandable). Bottom line, he’s a great kid that’s failed to live up to anywhere near what we expected and it’s year 5. What we’ve seen is what we’re going to get. Laf and Chytil both made jumps but Kakko hasn’t budged off of being a 3RW at best.
And luckily, he’s feels better and has finally scored a few points the last few games, so interest is there. I say move him and let’s get a true RW.
Despite what the the Kakko cultists want to say this is 100% the correct move. Best get value for him in anyway possible. He’s a bust at 2 OA.
The fact that it’s Darren Dreger saying this means that the message that KK is available is either A. coming from Drury or B. coming from Kakko’s agent. Curious as to which it is.
Wonder what scrub Drury will trade for this time.
A reminder that “taking calls” does not mean he’s actively being shipped, and if a GM isn’t taking calls on a player than he isn’t doing his job
This would be Buchnevich trade all over again, which isn’t surprising with the same GM in charge
Imagine trading a 22 year old who just put up 37 even strength points in ~14 min of even strength ice time
Rangers would be total fucking morons to do this. They haven’t replaced Buchnevich since the trade, Kakko has been the best replacement they’ve had, and he’s been really good, and now they’re exploring trade options? Fucking clown show
Taking calls doesn’t mean he’s on the trading block and unless someone wants to severely over pay for him, pass I want him here
Bad move if true imo. High ceiling, he’s only 22, and him on the third line makes the team much deeper. He’s defensively solid and we see the offensive upside. Idc how low his points are rn, players click in an instant in this league. He’s cheap rn and worth being patient on.
One thing missing from most people’s thought process here is cap space. Yes, Kakko has underperformed relative to his draft spot. I still see hope in his game, but I don’t know that he’ll ever produce to the expectation of a 2OA pick.
That said, he’s still a very useful player and one who would be very cost effective for a few more years. Having a plug and play, defensively responsible 3rd line RW at >5% of the cap is huge for any team hoping for a deep playoff run. If Drury is kicking the tires, that’s definitely something they have to weigh in any potential trade.
It sucks. I wanted Laf and Kakko to pan out so bad really will support them until the end but there’s only so much you can take.
OMG this sub is going to spontaneously combust
I’d honestly rather keep him. At the very least we get an affordable middle six winger that plays good defence and has some good advance stats offensively. He’s still young and can still develop at an affordable price. So unless we get an actual asset back that isn’t a rental and is a top 6 forward and fairly affordable I rather kk.
This better not be for another rental. We are cap strapped, have lots of players that need new contracts coming up, and are inconsistent defensively. Why trade away a cheap defensive right winger? He fits our needs very well. We don’t have any other promising RW on the roster. Kakko is definitely not 2OA level at all but still valuable to us.
We need to get a player who will be here long term and preferably a RW.
Also we need grit and effort in the playoffs based on what people say and past moves by this FO. Kakko’s defense and board play is literally gritty play. It’s sorely needed for us and works very well in tandem with Cuylle hitting everyone.
This would be the ultimate sell low. I think everyone can agree he’s at least a little better than this season’s stat line suggests. Unless Drury gets a crazy overpay, this should not happen, at least not this deadline.
Just because he can’t score and is a bust at his draft number, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. He’s not a top 6 guy, but I don’t think we need to necessarily trade him because of that.
This sucks. I know life isn’t fair but the devils got a superstar and our team got a decent player. Why can’t the Rangers get the superstar forward?
Well, I see two options here:
He either stays with us and continues to underperform, or we trade him to a team where he skyrockets to a PPG player.
Which do we prefer?
What kind of value does Kakko have around the league?
It only makes sense to trade him when his value is at his absolute lowest, we have no depth at RW, and his contract is perfectly affordable for the value he currently provides the team.
I would love for people to be able to separate what a player is, could be, and was expected to be. Kakko isn’t what he was expected to be but he **is** still a very valuable contributor as a depth piece, and is by no means a finished product with no room for improvement.
Is there no trade I would include him? Of course not. I don’t mind Drury taking calls on him, but we should be hesitant to move him. If there was a trade analogous to the Buch trade and we were acquiring a 1RW who we could sign for cheap with term, I’d be fine with him being the piece. I don’t see that being that really being the case.
Kakko and Schneider for Zegras
This org deserves nothing but misery and failure.
Would hate to see it. He’s one of our only genuinely good defensive players
As much as it sucks, the Rangers have to realize that some of the kids just don’t have much of a future here. Kakko can’t score and Miller makes too many defensive mistakes. I expect both will be traded in the off season
Kakko is a supposed defensive gem who has under 40 minutes on the PK in his career. That let’s you know in part what they think about him.
Hallelujah
He got another contract as a sign of faith. That faith has not been remotely rewarded.
It’s time for him to go, not only for the good of the club but for himself. Maybe he can find his game somewhere else but I will be happy to no longer hear how he is actually Wayne Gretzky if you look at some obscure advanced metric where If he has the puck along the left board in home games where the moon is its waxing crescent phase, he is the best player in hockey.
Here’s a fun stat for all the people trying to scapegoat Kakko. Since he’s returned from injury, the only forward with more goals than him is Bread. I understand you’re disappointed that he’s not Huges.
This team has 1 good offensive line and 1 good defenseman. Oh and a good backup goalie. Now if the return for Kakko is a complete 3rd line, a 1st line wing, 2-3 defensemen and a restraining order for the bromance duo so they can focus on not sucking….this may just be our year. 😀