But the fact we have up on Monahan right before he became healthy again and then also are giving Montreal a 1st to have Kadri signed into his late 30’s is atrocious
jewmas
Tre really nuked this team and bounced
ProphetOfScorch
He hasn’t had an injury free season since 2017 and in his last season here he had 8 goals in 65 games, I don’t think it’s that unreasonable they moved him
gs1100e
The curse of a “contender” and “win now” mentallity. The emergency contingency plan didn’t really work out but I like Kadri. If we would have made the playoffs, I’d take Kadri over Monahan. No disrespect to Monahan.
askariya
I mean you guys celebrated it when it happened. We all knew it was a bad deal but it was a cap dump to sign Kadri for a “cup run”.
It did look like the team would be at least a contender with Huberdeau, Kadri and Weegar replacing Gaudreau and Tkachuk.
Personally I knew it would end badly solely based on the age of the players we were going forward with.
Chrisjrc92
Love the pissed off oilers fan in the back 😂😂😂
ArnieAndTheWaves
He was constantly injury prone and seemed to not be the same after two hip surgeries. There’s a reason we needed to pay to ship him out, no team was about to take Monny in that situation. Montreal is just very fortunate he bounced back and I’m happy he did, but it wasn’t expected.
N-E-B
It’s revisionist history. It worked out well for the Habs but Monahan was absolutely cooked at the time we traded him. Not many people predicted this kind of bounce back for him.
Donday90
Don’t forget how change in scenery can change everything for a player. There is absolutely no guarantee Mony would have done the same if he stayed in Calgary. Like the other person said here, he had 8 goals in his last 65 games.
TurnCalmTheVolume
Monahan was broken when he was here. Montreal took on a big contract and a rehab project and turned him around. I have no problem with how it went down.
Zingyyy
Hindsight is always 20/20. It was just as likely that his injury issues persisted in Montreal and this becomes a nothing burger. If we go back to 2022 we were all on board for swapping Tkachuk and Monahan better 25 1st between ours and Florida for Huberdeau Weegar Kadri and the worse 25 1st.
KhanSpirasi
Recent history?
BlackFalconEscalator
He was able to rehab and get fully healthy in Montreal. Personally, I am super happy to see Monahan playing this well!
Ginger-Beefcake
Was he good or healthy at the time? Absolutely not. But it’s a complete joke to ship out one year of a contract and attach a first round pick to it. Brads last few seasons were legitimately terrible
burf
The trade wasn’t an issue in a vacuum. If the Flames had successfully tweaked their contending team into another contending team around Huberdeau, it would’ve made sense.
The root issue is that signing Huberdeau to a 10.5 mil contract before he played a game, and making room to sign Kadri to support him, was a fundamentally bad move. So related to that, trading Monahan was bad asset management.
Proper management would’ve been either taking the Necas package from Carolina or flipping Huberdeau for youth/pick/prospect for a soft retool at minimum.
BeautifulAwareness81
Once again how come everyone seemed to love Tre? The dude did like two good things
CJ_Boiss
I genuinely didn’t think Monahan would ever get healthy enough to be anything more than a perennially injured, half-a-season, skilled third-line and PP specialist kind of guy. I don’t think anyone did, and won’t blame Flames management for their decision here.
PBGellie
I want to know what that world looks like… no one should give a first for Monahan.
Motor_Signal_413
Sure let’s pretend like he didnt have atrocious injury luck his last couple seasons and is on a much higher point pace this year because he got surgery and is playing much higher minutes (and PP time) that he wasn’t going to get here, and probably won’t get wherever else he goes… or that he was moved to make space for kadri who’s been more or less as advertised besides a couple down stretches
Yeah giving up a first to move him was far from ideal but hindsight is 20/20
Fundingforis6
WENT WUGHESSS
TL10
Monahan’s career was very much in question. Sutter of all people had to intervene and make him stop playing through the injury that he wasn’t fully transparent to the team with.
His production in the last couple of seasons was abysmal compared to his peak level of play, and we were married to a contract that was taking precious cap space from us.
Tre moved on the best actionable information at the time so we had the cap space to make the roster moves we needed heading into the 2022-2023 season. Hindsight is 20/20, but it wasn’t looking good for Monny at the time.
Dice7
He was re-signed ad a UFA this year. It’s a moot point with what he can fetch at the deadline.
I was never a fan of trading him with a first. That made me sick.
MonkeySailor
Pierre LeBrun is a bit of a shill for the Canadiens. Last year he said that Hughes had turned down a 1st for Josh Anderson. Monahan isn’t worth a 1st at all and any team giving that up for him would regret it.
Regardless, Edwards and Treliving’s focus on the short term at the expense of the longterm didn’t work. Big surprise.
nibnoob19
Stopping by from Oil country. Hell no. Monahan was very likely DONE. So the teeny chance that he got healthy becoming reality… no way your management (or anyone’s) could see that coming. MTL took a huge risk and got pretty lucky.
marlboro__man9
It would be far dumber to trade a first for Monahan than to trade away him and a first which is saying something.
I will bet someone on this sub $100 that Montreal does not get a 1st for Monahan (if they eat a bad contract coming back that does not count)
Bigfawcman
Sucks all are high draft picks are gone and all we have to show for it is 2 over paid plus 30 players. Seems on par for our franchise tho.
broke-collegekid
Brad is fortunate that he immediately got a job with the Leafs after leaving Calgary. If he had to sit out for a year, I don’t think he gets hired by another team as their GM with just how poorly almost all of his major trades/signings have ended up in the past 2 years.
maz2305
Is it the Kings 1st plus Dubois?
GriefPB
The world exists, it’s just not this one.
SomeJerkOddball
What’s Mony’s hit gonna be to an acquiring team gonna be at the deadline this year? Like 500K? The dude will basically be free. The Habs had the time and room to deal with his rehab. Different circumstances from where he was, broken and expensive when we partied ways.
machiavel0218
Maybe, but I can’t help feeling happy for Monahan – just a good guy and a great hockey player who was hampered by injuries too soon. It seems easy to speculate on asset management since he has bounced back – when the Flames parted ways with him, his future was pretty uncertain.
I’ll always be a Flames fan first, but it’s great to see him doing well again.
ltotheogdudebetheog
What world is that lmao
2016?
Cooks_8
You’d be fleecing someone with that price. Monahan is fragile and ain’t worth a first.
Moist-muff
He is definitely not getting a 1st rounder.
IndividualCap9248
It’s more likely that Monahan will be injured before the trade deadline than Montreal getting a 1st for him.
His season is nothing to write home about. Average at best. He still is a very slow, defensively inept, injury prone, soft PP specialist.
OldSkol84
you guys needed cap space would of walked anyways
Scissors4215
A 1st was the price to free up 6m in cap space that year
Sideshift1427
Because of something Jay Onrait says? 😂
MeursaultWasGuilty
It’s just classic Flames luck.
We had Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan, and Bennett. We still have Lindholm but he’ll be gone soon too.
These guys had the makings of one of the best top 6’s in the league. And we even tasted it for a moment with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Lindholm.
Then Gaudreau bolted, Tkachuk bolted, Monahan always injured, Bennett flops, and Lindholm has had his foot out the door for 2 seasons.
What do we even do as fans. This franchise feels cursed.
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Kadri has been great this year.
But the fact we have up on Monahan right before he became healthy again and then also are giving Montreal a 1st to have Kadri signed into his late 30’s is atrocious
Tre really nuked this team and bounced
He hasn’t had an injury free season since 2017 and in his last season here he had 8 goals in 65 games, I don’t think it’s that unreasonable they moved him
The curse of a “contender” and “win now” mentallity. The emergency contingency plan didn’t really work out but I like Kadri. If we would have made the playoffs, I’d take Kadri over Monahan. No disrespect to Monahan.
I mean you guys celebrated it when it happened. We all knew it was a bad deal but it was a cap dump to sign Kadri for a “cup run”.
It did look like the team would be at least a contender with Huberdeau, Kadri and Weegar replacing Gaudreau and Tkachuk.
Personally I knew it would end badly solely based on the age of the players we were going forward with.
Love the pissed off oilers fan in the back 😂😂😂
He was constantly injury prone and seemed to not be the same after two hip surgeries. There’s a reason we needed to pay to ship him out, no team was about to take Monny in that situation. Montreal is just very fortunate he bounced back and I’m happy he did, but it wasn’t expected.
It’s revisionist history. It worked out well for the Habs but Monahan was absolutely cooked at the time we traded him. Not many people predicted this kind of bounce back for him.
Don’t forget how change in scenery can change everything for a player. There is absolutely no guarantee Mony would have done the same if he stayed in Calgary. Like the other person said here, he had 8 goals in his last 65 games.
Monahan was broken when he was here. Montreal took on a big contract and a rehab project and turned him around. I have no problem with how it went down.
Hindsight is always 20/20. It was just as likely that his injury issues persisted in Montreal and this becomes a nothing burger. If we go back to 2022 we were all on board for swapping Tkachuk and Monahan better 25 1st between ours and Florida for Huberdeau Weegar Kadri and the worse 25 1st.
Recent history?
He was able to rehab and get fully healthy in Montreal. Personally, I am super happy to see Monahan playing this well!
Was he good or healthy at the time? Absolutely not. But it’s a complete joke to ship out one year of a contract and attach a first round pick to it. Brads last few seasons were legitimately terrible
The trade wasn’t an issue in a vacuum. If the Flames had successfully tweaked their contending team into another contending team around Huberdeau, it would’ve made sense.
The root issue is that signing Huberdeau to a 10.5 mil contract before he played a game, and making room to sign Kadri to support him, was a fundamentally bad move. So related to that, trading Monahan was bad asset management.
Proper management would’ve been either taking the Necas package from Carolina or flipping Huberdeau for youth/pick/prospect for a soft retool at minimum.
Once again how come everyone seemed to love Tre? The dude did like two good things
I genuinely didn’t think Monahan would ever get healthy enough to be anything more than a perennially injured, half-a-season, skilled third-line and PP specialist kind of guy. I don’t think anyone did, and won’t blame Flames management for their decision here.
I want to know what that world looks like… no one should give a first for Monahan.
Sure let’s pretend like he didnt have atrocious injury luck his last couple seasons and is on a much higher point pace this year because he got surgery and is playing much higher minutes (and PP time) that he wasn’t going to get here, and probably won’t get wherever else he goes… or that he was moved to make space for kadri who’s been more or less as advertised besides a couple down stretches
Yeah giving up a first to move him was far from ideal but hindsight is 20/20
WENT WUGHESSS
Monahan’s career was very much in question. Sutter of all people had to intervene and make him stop playing through the injury that he wasn’t fully transparent to the team with.
His production in the last couple of seasons was abysmal compared to his peak level of play, and we were married to a contract that was taking precious cap space from us.
Tre moved on the best actionable information at the time so we had the cap space to make the roster moves we needed heading into the 2022-2023 season. Hindsight is 20/20, but it wasn’t looking good for Monny at the time.
He was re-signed ad a UFA this year. It’s a moot point with what he can fetch at the deadline.
I was never a fan of trading him with a first. That made me sick.
Pierre LeBrun is a bit of a shill for the Canadiens. Last year he said that Hughes had turned down a 1st for Josh Anderson. Monahan isn’t worth a 1st at all and any team giving that up for him would regret it.
Regardless, Edwards and Treliving’s focus on the short term at the expense of the longterm didn’t work. Big surprise.
Stopping by from Oil country. Hell no. Monahan was very likely DONE. So the teeny chance that he got healthy becoming reality… no way your management (or anyone’s) could see that coming. MTL took a huge risk and got pretty lucky.
It would be far dumber to trade a first for Monahan than to trade away him and a first which is saying something.
I will bet someone on this sub $100 that Montreal does not get a 1st for Monahan (if they eat a bad contract coming back that does not count)
Sucks all are high draft picks are gone and all we have to show for it is 2 over paid plus 30 players. Seems on par for our franchise tho.
Brad is fortunate that he immediately got a job with the Leafs after leaving Calgary. If he had to sit out for a year, I don’t think he gets hired by another team as their GM with just how poorly almost all of his major trades/signings have ended up in the past 2 years.
Is it the Kings 1st plus Dubois?
The world exists, it’s just not this one.
What’s Mony’s hit gonna be to an acquiring team gonna be at the deadline this year? Like 500K? The dude will basically be free. The Habs had the time and room to deal with his rehab. Different circumstances from where he was, broken and expensive when we partied ways.
Maybe, but I can’t help feeling happy for Monahan – just a good guy and a great hockey player who was hampered by injuries too soon. It seems easy to speculate on asset management since he has bounced back – when the Flames parted ways with him, his future was pretty uncertain.
I’ll always be a Flames fan first, but it’s great to see him doing well again.
What world is that lmao
2016?
You’d be fleecing someone with that price. Monahan is fragile and ain’t worth a first.
He is definitely not getting a 1st rounder.
It’s more likely that Monahan will be injured before the trade deadline than Montreal getting a 1st for him.
His season is nothing to write home about. Average at best. He still is a very slow, defensively inept, injury prone, soft PP specialist.
you guys needed cap space would of walked anyways
A 1st was the price to free up 6m in cap space that year
Because of something Jay Onrait says? 😂
It’s just classic Flames luck.
We had Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan, and Bennett. We still have Lindholm but he’ll be gone soon too.
These guys had the makings of one of the best top 6’s in the league. And we even tasted it for a moment with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Lindholm.
Then Gaudreau bolted, Tkachuk bolted, Monahan always injured, Bennett flops, and Lindholm has had his foot out the door for 2 seasons.
What do we even do as fans. This franchise feels cursed.