-Said Matt Serkeres of the Nation Network’s Sekeres and Price Show: “I think it’s going to make the other Western Conference contenders take note that the Vancouver Canucks are coming and they’re coming with a much fuller deck than you might have expected just a few days ago.”
-Added commentator Black Price: “It’s pretty exciting stuff. It’s a pinch yourself moment if you’re a Canucks fan. From the depths of the last decade to where they find themselves now as a first place team making deals for, if he’s not a first line centre, he’s a second line centre, Elias Lindholm. It’s a pinch yourself moment. I really can’t believe that’s what we’re talking about.”
“Dare to dream,” said Sekeres, then noted how tough the Western Conference will be in the playoffs. “It’s a helluva field. It’s a helluva gauntlet, but with the player they’ve added today — particularly with what is being subtracted from the club, which let’s face it is not much given the way Andrei Kuzmenko has been playing — they have taken a significant step towards getting through this Western Conference gauntlet.
-Said commentator Dave Quadrelli of the Canucks Conversation podcast: “This is a slam dunk great trade for the Vancouver Canucks… A lot of people are hating this trade… You’re the best team in the NHL, you have the best record in the NHL at the time of this trade, if you’re worried about a first round pick, you’re worried about Jani Jurmo going the other way, come on people! Let’s get a grip.”
by SvenofaBaertsch
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>I think the Canucks saw a team with a 16 game winning streak and said, ‘We may not even be good enough to get out of the Pacific (Division).’”
Is John Shannon real?
Part of makes me like this trade so much is, I didn’t have Hunter B in my top 5 prospects. And whoever they would have taken with that pick probably wasn’t cracking their top-5 prospects list.
That’s not to say that Van has some super stacked prospect pool, but these were very tradeable assets for Van.
I definitely don’t think it’s a landslide victory for the Canucks right now. It would have been if it was Kuz + 1st + Jurmo.
Calgary got a good amount of value. If anything, they probably could have waited and got more. Where Allvin really shined is by giving up some value now to avoid giving up more later with more bidders involved.
This could have easily cost Kuzmenko, Hoglander, Brz and a 1st, and maybe even more.
We paid a late 1st in a bad draft, a prospect who even if he hits in 3 years is completely redundant, a player who got less playtime than Nils Aman because of what a tirefire he is, and some literal trash for an all-star that fixes all our problems
Sounds good to me
The versatility of the top 6 now is incredible with basically 3 1st line centres, each who can also play wing
I’m only worry about Hunter Bryz(however you spell his last name), but you have to trade good pieces to get good pieces. If the Canucks win it all, I literally won’t care how good he becomes later.
I think the thing we’re forgetting is that when we speculated a trade a month or so ago we were wanting a good 2C because it opens the lotto line back up without setting up our second line to do nothing. I think this trade does exactly that and I am LOVING it. Putting lindholm at 2C enables suter either on the wing or down to 4th line with Hoggy up at 2C.
Either seems like a spooky second line to play against with a 1st and 3rd line that can and will score. Not to mention that playing consistent minutes with an elite centre again may help Mikheyev out with his production.
What confuses me is why Lindholm cost so much, but Kuz is a cap dump. They’re having similar seasons production wise.
We’ve built a prospect pool where we’re able to lose a guy or two to make a run. This is exciting.
Lindholm faceoff ability as a righty is the real win here
>commentator Black Price
lol
Even at the draft we can’t sit there and dwell on the player Calgary picks with out 1st rounder because we may have picked someone different. The chances of a 32nd overall pick being a full time impactful NHLer is 20%. So you have to have 5 x late first round picks to land an impactful NHLer. When you look at it this way, it’s not such a tough pill to swallow. The rest of the package is kinda meh. I like Kuz, but he’s struggling under Tocchet and likely won’t ever play to his full potential under him.
Sekeres and Price!!!! Top Notch
We better not slack off against edm in the playoffs, after spanking them multiple times in the beginning of the season they are going to have a chip on their shoulders
Black Price
I think this trade looks expensive for a rental but it seems like two parts had to come together for it to happen. 1) cap out/ cap in to make it work. 2) the cost of lindholm to a divisional rival.
1. They needed to subtract before they could add. They had no space so any move made needed a subtraction off the current lineup first. So, looking at that, who do you take out without weakening the team. Kuz is the obvious choice. (Mihkeyev still has value to Tocchet with his speed and he plays more of a 200’ game.) Kuzmenko has a 12 team No Trade. So that chops the field. He has a 5.5 mil cap hit, so that also limits who can take him. I think this factored into the price. It’s not a straight cap dump because he has value but honestly, given his struggles, one more year on his contract and his limited no trade, he was kind of a cap dump. Ha
2. The actual price of lindholm was probably the 1st, Hunter and the potential of a return to form of Kuzmenko. The 4th and Jurmo were the sweeteners to not use one of our top prospects or a different player off our current roster to close this out.
All in all, I think it’s a tidy piece of business because the west is gonna be a war. Edmonton is no joke, Vegas is always looking at adding, Winnipeg is playoff built, and Colorado has holes but they are a good club.
* You’re the best team in the NHL, you have the best record in the NHL at the time of this trade, if you’re worried about a first round pick, you’re worried about Jani Jurmo going the other way, come on people! Let’s get a grip.”
Yeah, Canucks fans don’t think that way. Expect and prepare for the worst, get excited when it goes well. But still ***cautiously*** excited.
Just answer these questions:
Were there multiple teams bidding for Lindholm? (Yes, as many as 5)
Was Lindholm the BPA? (Yes)
Were there a ton of quality options available for trading? (No)
Was there a defined need for Lindholm? (Yes)
Was Kuzmenko vs Tocchet causing a possible distraction in the locker room? (Yes)
Was Brzuskewicz one of our top three prospects? (No)
Does Lindholm’s contract affect our ability to sign Pettersson and Hronek? (No)
Is Calgary a division rival? (Yes)
Did we pay a steep price for Zadorov? (No)
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All things considered, it’s a win.
Hunter B would have gone down the Rathbone path for us. We don’t have a spot for him given the commitment to Hughes. Only one undersized offensive wizard. Going to the flames is the best thing for him and wish him luck.
We need a C and top 6 now. This trade hurts but not as much as people make it out to
What is Quedrelli talking about?
I haven’t see anyone not like this trade.
A lot to give up for a rental
Guys we’re winning the Cup this year. It’s finally going to happen.