Casey Mittelstadt trade smoke is billowing
Friday edition of the show we were going to have just a straight preview of sabes and blues but we’re going to skip that in the name of all these trade rumors that are surrounding the Sabers we’ll get to all of them and there are multiple coming up here in the lockdown Sabers Podcast your locked on Sabers your daily podcast on the Buffalo Sabers part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day And thanks for making locked on Sabers your first listen every day we are free and available wherever you get your podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day we’ve got a lot to get to on today’s show it just kind of all came and at once like a
Friday news dump we have got multiple trade rumors involving the Buffalo Sabers enough to have one each segment so that’s what we’re going to do on today’s show you could check us out on our YouTube channel be sure to like And subscribe us there you can join our
Locked on saers text line as well by going to join subtext docomo on saers you sign up there and you can text with us the rest of the way including tomorrow’s game one o’clock against the St Louis Blues not much to get to on Sabers and blues the lines
Were exactly the same at Friday’s practice we’ve T we’ve talked about the state of the team um we can we can talk more about the Tage Thompson trade another day because there’s a lot of trade rumors to get to on today’s episode we will go through Casey midat a
Potential goalie trade that we had in the media uh today and also a player that does not really excite me but we had a major reporter talking about the Sabers and the this player uh Philadelphia’s Scott lton that I want to get to in the third segment my thoughts
I’ll expand on them but the most recent text in our s locked on Sabers text line uh is just simply put three words Scott lton stinks and I’ll expand on that in the third segment of today’s show if you don’t know a lot about the player it’s
Not a guy that wouldn’t help the Sabers at all it just doesn’t excite me I’ll get to that later let’s start though with something I don’t really like doing I don’t like stealing topics from other podcasts if I can avoid it but today’s a day where it’s pretty juicy and it’s
Pretty important I think to jump in here so at the risk of copying another Show’s topic I do want to talk about what both the guys on 32 thoughts talked about today with Jeff Merck and Elliot fredman and I also want to talk talk about what Andrew Peters said on the around the
Whistle podcast that he does with Craig R and what Peter said is where we’re going to start today he said that A source told him that Kevin Adams is shopping Casey middlest stat and this is beyond us just wondering if he could be available wondering if he could be
Traded because it had been reported multiple times that and Adams had even said it on wgr sports radio 550 that they have not talked to Casey midat about a contract extension fredman also talked about middlest stat today but Peters is the one who said Adams is shopping middle
Stat now what I want to pass along if you didn’t hear it is what fredman then said about it where he didn’t say the exact same thing but sounded like it’s not wrong what Peter said he did say say quote if you’re not going to pay him you
Probably have to trade him because he’ll be unhappy and that’s right think about it if you’re Casey midat and you’ve watched your team your organization that by the way the team you’ve been with longer than all of these guys when did Tage Thompson and Rasmus dalen arrive
They got here in 2018 when did and they got paid seven-year contracts when did Dylan cousins arrive cousins didn’t debut with the Sabres until 2021 he got paid when did Owen power get paid this offseason after debuting last year Samuelson two years ago after only 54 games think of that if
You’re Casey midd stat you paid this um this this dude well swore this dude a seven-year contract after 54 freaking games and I’ve been on this team since 2017 and have played 327 games for you and you’re not gonna pay me if the Sabers get to a point
Where they’ve made it clear to middlest stat they have no intention of signing him to a long-term contract extension this is not even me saying that midd would be a bad guy by doing this but it would be completely understandable for him to not be happy with that situation
He is on a team that is the worst team to play for probably in the sport right now maybe the coyotes are number one because of how bad the arena is uh it’s College rank um but one of the worst teams to play for in the league no success whatsoever and you’ve watched
All your buddies get paid you’ve been there the longest and you’re also the leading scorer on the team and you’re the guy they’re not going to pay if you’re middle stat you probably would say all right well what are we doing here get me out of here Trade Me Now
What what I don’t know what else you need me to do I’ve I’ve developed for you I’ve progressed for you you don’t want to pay me that’s fine but let’s let’s move on then that to me is the situation that happens if middl stat gets it made clear to him that they
Don’t intend to sign him Not a Bad Thing by anybody I’m not criticizing the Sabers for that I think it’s completely respectable the idea of trading middle stat right now I’m getting to a place where I think it’s inevitable and I think it’s kind of a good idea at this
Point to trade middle setat I don’t believe this Core group of players deserves to have 100% of them get paid somebody has got to fall on the sword somebody has got to be moved on from in the name of trying to get better and middle stat just happens to be the last
Guy they haven’t paid so to me that’s that’s the guy you pick it’s their own doing they decided to pay all the rest of them so that’s where you’re at right now with middle stat but just once again to point out I’m not trading him for Picks and Prospects that would be
Unbelievably dumb I would can believe that the sabes would do that I’m starting to believe more and more by the way Sabers would not do that that they do understand the place they’re in and fredman talked about this too that he mentioned talking to somebody in Buffalo that they understand as a
Franchise they cannot reasonably ask for any more patience from the fans it would be completely unfair and they if they asked for it they wouldn’t get it they know patience meter is empty it’s zero you’re getting the tanks empty you’re getting nothing else in terms of patience
So fredman’s saying that the guys he talks to are usually in the league so I’m to believe if that guy is saying it that I have some reason to believe the team gets it too and that’s following up by the way the other day when fredman said that the Sabers should be looking
For a prospect for player type of trade moving on some from some of these Picks and Prospects so I wonder right now if what is happening behind the scenes you got Peters today saying they’re shopping middle set that they’re searching they are searching North America right now
Team by team City by city they’re looking for the deal that sends middle stat and something else away to get something better in return and maybe they find nothing maybe they don’t find a player like that available maybe they don’t find a player like that available
That also wants to come to Buffalo or would accept coming to Buffalo but that’s where I’m at I am now on February 9th I have mentally checked in to room their trading middle stat that they’re not going to pay him and my belief at this point in time reading all between
The lines and hearing the different reports and rumors and hearing from Adams hearing from middl stat on the two sides not talking I’m putting that all together in my own head to believe that they’re not going to pay middle stat they’re going to trade him that does not
Have to be by the deadline but I think it could be by the deadline if not I think you’re thinking this offseason probably that’s where we’re at with middle stat now one thing that Peter said following up on his rumor report whatever he would want to call it that
Adams is shopping middle stat he mentioned a position that I was not expecting to hear that the sabes are looking for right now it relates to the show I just did yesterday that’s coming up here on the locked on Sabers podcast stay tuned for that we are presented by eBay
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About on after the whistle he said after mentioning middle stat as being shopped said on the Sabers they’re looking for a goalie they don’t trust the three that they have they’re looking for a goalie they’re looking for a number one goenda said one name he mentioned a name in particular John
Gibson let’s get Circle back to this we’ve talked about John Gibson before I’ll probably do a full show breaking down that as an idea coming up next week Gibson again we’ve talked about him before so you give you the cliff notes because this is a review John Gibson is
A big contract he is 30 years old he has a modified no trade clause which which would he submits a 10 team no trade list I would almost guarantee I would bet everything I own on one of the 10 teams on his list is the the Buffalo Sabers so
You’d have to do a little bit of a sales pitch I think if you wanted to go down this road to make him feel comfortable coming to Buffalo he’s got after this year three more years on his contract at 6.4 million he this season has a 601 or 601
Geez that would be terrible a 901 safe percentage on a very bad Ducks team his Advanced stats goal saved above expected out of the 67 goalies that have played 10 or more games this year Gibson is 29th literally one spot below ukpa Lucan and it’s basically the same it’s
0179 per 60 for Lucan and 0177 for Gibson basically the same production but one guy is six years older and one guy is a lot more expensive it’s interesting to me the Savers would be in the market for a goalie at all um that I guess though
Would lend itself to the show I just did on cashing in and selling high on ukap peka lukanin what I expected for a lot of and I got some of from our our listeners on our text line and tweeters and you know others when I was going to
Talk Lucan in trade was most people are going to hate this most people are going to be against this most people are going to think I’m crazy just trying to stir things up be click baity or whatever I legitimately thought it was interesting and there was real Merit to it and what
I’ve gotten in the last 24 hours is a lot of no there’s some logic here and now I’ve got something that makes me think they might even be thinking it the sabes might even be already ahead of me thinking about this idea because if they’re looking for a number one
Goenda saying they don’t trust the three guys they have that sounds to me like the sabes and Kevin Adams might like eka Lucan and fine but they don’t think this is L they they’re not convinced this is going to be Lucan in every year the year he’s having right
Now that I said it yesterday this would be the time to cash in because you might expect some regression next year well I don’t like the John Gibson idea for instance Gibson hasn’t been a great goenda contract either too expensive for me so I don’t like that for Lucan in the
Lucan idea for me is still getting defenseman but interesting at all that they would be even sniffing around in the goalie Market Capo cochan is available out in San Jose Jacob markstrom is available in Calgary um who else Mark Andre flurry is available but in Minnesota but I
Don’t I mean that that’s a rental I don’t think that makes any sense for the Sabers um there are other guys available but those are the big names that you would find right now if you were to SC scour the market but I I wonder what
They’ll do that doesn’t sound to me like a team that’s ready to pay ukap peka lcan right that’s that’s its own contract situation uh separate from middle stat but maybe it’s both maybe all of this middle stat being shopped look for a different goenda make a GM change maybe they’re
Not planning on making a coach change but they also don’t want to just run back the same group they know I’m sure especially the fans would hate that to run back the same group so they are committed to making real change on the roster and real change on the roster I think
Begins and ends with those two players middle stat and luukinen because their contracts are up and they haven’t paid them yet you’re not doing it with Samuelson or any of these other guys that have been paid Skinner is untradeable and the other guys aren’t worth enough aoso Genson the rest the
Two guys that are worth something that would mean real change you would get something back and you don’t have to pay long term it’s l lucing in and middle step so I guess this really shouldn’t be the most surprising thing that we hear this morning both of these guys we have to
Start questioning their Futures with the team despite the fact that they’re the best two players all year Lucan in and middle stat I think have been their two most Rock Solid players all year that doesn’t mean you have to hold on to them forever though it means their Valu is at
Their highest maybe that’s how the Sabers are thinking when we come back a specific player in the league Scott lton of the Philadelphia Flyers was mentioned with the Sabers in mind today we’ll talk about him as a trade idea and I’ll tell you why I don’t like it he is a not
Exciting idea to me at all but we’ll get into the player I’ll tell you why even if they did do it he would help them I just again can’t get too excited for it back after this on the locked on Sabers podcast we are presented by indeed we uh if you need to
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At KeyBank Center so one last trade rumor to get to we talked about middle stat we talked about the Sab potential interest in the goalie Market which is not something I was expecting to talk about again today how about a specific name that Jeff Merrick of sportset said
Could make sense for the Sabers and is available this guy’s been available I guess since the summer still is Scott lton of the Philadelphia Flyers if you’re a DieHard hockey fan you know who this is if you’re just a casual saber fan you’ve maybe seen him around the
League here and there he has been more of a middle six really more so a third line player for the Philadelphia Flyers for now over a decade this guy’s been with the Flyers since 20123 the the only the second year after they played the Sabers in the playoffs
This guy’s been on the team for a long long time in 571 games for Philadelphia 87 goals 219 points he is 29 years old next year will be his Age 3 season he has got two years left on his deal at $3 million per year it’s not just mer by the way daily
Faceoff um Frank Celli has Lon ranked number five on their trade board heading into the trade deadline this uh uh coming March last year Scott lton career highs offensively and they’re not the most impressive stats so brace yourself this was in a 10-year career a career high eight
Goals 25 assists 43 points playing 18 minutes a night that’s the best he’s ever done his second highest up until last year was 32 points and he had never scored more than 13 goals so for the most part we’re talking 10 to 15 goals 25 to 30 points that’s more so what
You’re getting now what you might be thinking is okay well third liner he’s six one you know he’s not small he’s not big either 61190 and Merrick called him a um oh what was the exact word not a not a a grinder player a snarl a bit
More snarl and Veteran presence he’s a leader in that Philly Locker Room reading something about him like he sometimes is treated like the deao captain on that team he’s very much ingrained in that area which I don’t care about and I don’t think the Sabers need any more of they made enough
Decisions based on stuff like that in the past I don’t need that at all in my life with this with an idea like this you might be thinking okay veteran leader snarl been on a team for 10 years without scoring you know more than 15 goals more than once you might be
Thinking well he’s must be a really good shutdown player right good defensive player uh the advanced numbers don’t say so I we could get more ingrained in this with you know different Flyers reporters and I H can get into that coming up if we ever need to dive into this more
But I’m gonna look at the advanced numbers for today and what do we have there uh 25 percentile defensively uh at Andy and Rono stats okay it’s not very good that was last year 25th percentile for defensive impact what about this year 14th percentile for defensive impact last year his offensive impact in
His transition game was fine 50% for offense 50th percentile and 46 percentile for transition not bad career highs might be why this year rock bottom rock bottom for a lot of the advanced numbers at least I’ve not been watching the flyers every night I can’t
Tell you from my own eyes if this is true but I’ll tell you what the numbers are for the for this just the percentile stuff offensive impact this year 15th percentile transition game zero zero there might not be many players worse in the league right now he kind of
Reminds me of Vladimir sabatka if I can be very you know at least sabatka I guess was good defensively but just a guy that plays in your bottom six that’s been in the league for a really long time had like one good offensive season and you just don’t know why he’s still
In the lineup that is something poking around with different Flyers people that I found very quickly is that they don’t know why like Morgan Frost was getting scratched a good young player earlier in the year Morgan Frost was getting scratched making some impact and Scott lton was the guy that was
Being pointed to as how the hell is he still out there over Morgan Frost Morgan Frost by the way first round pick couple years ago not that young 24 but kind of that sentiment why is lton in the lineup is he only in there because of his his his locker room
Presence when I start seeing question like that on another team and then I see the Sabers maybe trading for him or like the idea of trading for him just no no thank you sounds like I’m signing up for two more years of Kyle aoso again and
This is it for aoso get get out of that and clear the decks in the bottom for some Youth and then upgrade the middle in the top with another proven score that’s the move don’t block Kulik with Scott lton don’t block don’t make that if you’re going to make one big veteran
Move at forward because we’ve talked about forward it’s busy there’s a lot of names that need opportunities you can’t make five additions at forward you can’t make three even you probably get one significant forward acquisition between now and the start of next season if they trade middle stat then maybe two and
Making one of those Scott lton just does not appeal to me whatsoever I don’t care about the money I don’t care about the age even two-year deal who cares I just don’t think he’s a very good hockey player and I don’t think he makes the Sabers any better I you know maybe he
Makes him slightly better because he play instead of like Victor Olson on Mo on some nights but not a move that I necessarily like snarl all right sure you know what I’m so at a place though dark place with this team and they do have a lot of kids
And a lot of Youth that that I hear that and my instinct my gut wants to scream out and say you idiot they don’t need snarl they need talent that’s what they need they’re not good because they’re not as talented as you think get snarl
Out of my face I’m at such a dark place with this team that my own inhibitions I’m ready to just throw out the window you want snarl fine try it whatever at this point try it I don’t know become the snarestone back in the NFL where I can
Get away with doing it cheaply teams do it all the time this offseason I told you like go get counter hellu it’s so against everything I believe in for goenda it for Scott lton tomorrow I I might have to arrive at a place of well okay we’ll see let’s see let’s see what
Snarl does uh on this team so that’s what you’re looking at for a player that is on the market and he’s gonna get traded probably somewhere and hey maybe that ends up being the Buffalo Sabers so that’s what we got middle stat goalie John Gibson maybe and Scott lton a lot
Of trade rumors uh heading into the weekend to think about if you’re a saber you’ve got a thought on all three of these what do you think about the middle stat stuff what do you think about John Gibson as an idea again I know we’ll do more expanded on that next week and
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Both Andrew Peters and Elliotte Friedman took to their mics Friday to drop rumors and speculation on Casey Mittelstadt being traded out of Buffalo, including Peters saying Mittelstadt is being “shopped”. Sneaky Joe declares that he believes a Mittelstadt trade is now inevitable at some point.
Plus, are the Sabres in the goalie market??? John Gibson? And Scott Laughton’s name has been connected to Buffalo.
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23 Comments
I thought you were serious when you said that the Sabres were shopping MIDDLESTADT until you mentioned your sources.my guess he will get long term contract!
They’re probably looking for a veteran goalie in Gibson to mentor Levi.
Adams is actively shopping an RFA who is the leading scorer of the team. Dude has no clue how to maximize the trade and use any leverage to get a great deal. Dude is a complete moron. What a clown 🤡 show. Eff the sabres I'm done with caring about that dumpster 🔥 of an organization
No trades just go into the offseason let E Johnson,Okposo, Girgeson,Robison and maybe Greenway. Then bring up the youngsters next season.
Laughton? That's a joke right? WTF
This would infuriate me. Our best two way forward. He will actually go into the corners and behind the net. Great set up man. Cozens looks like shit this year but we won't give Mitsy a contract. What a joke.
Unless he is asking too much, I wouldn't want to move Mitts. He is exactly what the Sabres are shopping for. I do like the rumors on looking at a number 1 goalie (but that should have been done last offseason), get rid of the dead weigh guys like olofsson, comrie, E Johnson, Clifton, maybe even jokiharu.
None of this will happen,I hope. Think you've gone a little cuckoo . Is it the coco puffs?
I’m realizing that I care about the players not the sabres organization. Hope they get traded I would love to watch other teams.
Do nothing Adams will continue to do nothing !! At this point a new face in the lineup would be exciting though 😂
What a joke this upstairs office is they can't get nothing right no matter who's up there
Watch upl leave here and become a vezina winner and shit all over this sabres team for years beating us
Or maybe this incompetent gm paid samuelsson way too much maybe they paid the wrong guys so now we're letting the good players walk this team will never win anything ever
Mittelstadt is a decent hockey player but he gives away the puck a lot. Every season he's played except for this one he hasn't been very good. Sabres have been patient with him. That's why the Sabres don't want to pay him. How much better is he going to be in the future? Probably not much. What you see is what you get. He's not a finisher. Can Buffalo get some real grit or a real defenseman for him? If so trade 'em.
Middlestat skates to the boards and corners. Send him away. He's not the dump and chase I wanna watch. He's has a great season going. But let's spend some money.
I could see them moving Casey. He's at max value right now and we gotta make room for younguns. He's not an Adams draft pick.
Hockey trade for Hanifan.
Honestly with how you were talking at the end I very much relate to, I feel that more with Gibson than Laughton. If they got Gibson what would hurt most is the price to get him because I really don't feel comfortable with trading UPL, Casey or anything remotely good for him, maybe a 2nd or something. But beyond that, I'd be the same as you said with "well it's not what you should do but let's see how much Gibson can make them better". Him and Levi would make an interesting pair the next few years though
This organization needs a team president of hockey operations to clean up this debacle
Move out Ollie , Bryson , Greenway , Kyle, Cormie , Girgs
Bring up the youth movement. Why not ?
If they are looking at bringing Gibson in, and UPL is part of that deal, make Mittelstadt part of the deal and find a way to get Zegras from them too
If we’re going to trade mittelstadt I would much rather package him and send him to Minnesota for a Marcus Foligno and/or Jake Middleton. Don’t know if those guys would even be available but would much rather get guys like that in return then a guy goalie
One thing I get from all of this chatter is. I'm tired of Buffalo being the farm team for the freakin league!
Gibson hurt LBI . THANK GOODNESS IT BLOCKS OR STOPS THE BS TRADE IDEA