This might be the big one and it lets the air out of expectations for tomorrow just a bit.
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In the meantime, Drury's time is running out. The egg is getting closer and closer to his face.
Seeing Guentzel leave is sad, but getting Bunting in return with some scrubs… ehhh. Bunting, who is a less scoring-talented Tom Wilson, makes me want to switch my favorite team.
dubas trying to cement himself as the worst gm in the league
Sid didn't get a winger on par with Guentzel, but who knows what Bunting can do on a line with Crosby and/or Malkin. One of their few prospects is killing it right now in Scranton, Samuel Poulin is finally showing he is first round material after the injuries and the other issues, they might as well bring him up for the rest of the season, because I don't see a future where Poulin isn't with the big team next season. Kinda sad about Ty Smith too, last year he put out decent points and +/- and he was one of their other young #1 draft picks they acquired by robbing the other team. I can sense that after the blowout against the Caps yesterday that they might have thrown the towel, even if the 3 teams ahead of em barely are (including the Caps), NJ are on a downward spiral and the NYI are very "eh" and PIT still have games in hand. I'm sad Jake's gone for sure…but that's a lot of young talent and they needed more of that.
What about the Blackhawks are we going to get kapo , we could use 6 more wins. Can you trade Connor Murphy, on IR
Fire Sullivan now.
I feel like the penguins did well here
Hockey guy: It's just Pon-o-mar-ev. He's been amazing with the Wolves since 2022
Apparently the Canes are also in on Kuznetsov
Bunting may explode in Pittsburgh due to being under 30 snd very motivated.
As a Pens fan I love this trade. Now just gotta root for Carolina to make it to the Final lol.
If the cane's can sign Guentzel it's a good move for them.
This looks to me more like a baseball trade than a hockey trade, in the sense that PIT got back a lesser winger with more term, picks, and a bunch of lottery ticket prospects. The 3 non-NHL guys I view as the baseball equivalent of young A-ball Dominican hard throwers – will any of them turn into major leagures? Tough to say this early. But if one (or more) of them does, then the Pens look like geniuses in a few years.
If Adam Henrique, Elias Lindholm, and if Sean Monahan were each separately worth a non-conditional 1st, then Jake Guentzel + Ty Smith combined being only worth essentially a late 2nd is the biggest slap in the face Dubas could of delivered to the Penguins franchise. He's so obsessed with chasing his white whales from Toronto that he's making terrible decisions.
Canes want to be good but not a top team. Guentzel gets hurt often so why would they want him?
It's a significant trade for both teams. Carolina got a guy who can be slotted in Bunting's spot, or be moved to the first line and drop Teravainen down one slot. Pittsburgh had to get younger and with this trade, they did. Bunting is not the scorer that Guentzel is, but he is still a solid player.
As if losing 6-0 to the Caps didn't hurt enough, they just had to go and rub salt in the wounds. I knew he wasn't staying, but I feel like they didn't get enough.
Here's hoping he's just a rental and will return to the Pens this summer. Not gonna happen, I know, but there's no harm in dreaming đ
Thanks for everything Jake Guentzel! Good luck in Carolina!
Carolina overpaid!
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as a canes fan, iâve been sick and tired of hearing âwe like our guysâ every TDL and getting eliminated once âour guysâ donât play up to their talent. a big trade like this and freddie coming back we might just be cup contenders again
Penguins get a pretty good haul on this one.
Carolina over paid. Bunting's numbers under rate his actual performance. Bunting has been a large moving cog in the line up. Guentzel will have to come in and be on fire to replace him.
I'm going to bet Carolina accepting 75% of the salary pushed them over every other team
Kyle Dubas doing kyle like things lol Didn't even get a confirmed 1st? And the best prospect in the deal is a 5'10" C? hahahah
Haha i love watching Dubas flail. Hes such a bad GM its insane. Go get Barrie again Dubas! That'll help!
It's a fair price considering no extension is in place, if the canes sign him then it looks good for them. The fact they likely dont get a 1st isnt great for the Pens but the get a decent player and a couple prospects that could pan out
Carolina OVERPAID….Guentzel will never sign with Carolina.
What a steal for the Canes. Hate this trade.
Good trade. Jake is soft. Lets go Pens!
Pens fans are freaking out over a perceived poor return on this trade. The are overlooking the fact that JG is nothing more than a rental for Carolina, and the fact they got anything for him is a positive. He could have just walked after the season and left Pitt with nothing.
Sad about Jake but idk if we could have resigned him.. guess itâs better to have something than nothing đ«€
I love this trade. Guentzel is just the type of player we need to produce offense in the playoffs. Bunting was okay for us but he's not exactly been spectacular and he's officiating poison, which could really hurt us in the playoffs — virtually no infractions against him from other players are called and he gets called for everything because the refs see him as a "diver" from a couple of incidents when he was on the Leafs. I'm sad to see Ponomarev go, he looked like he could be a really solid NHL player, but to get a player of the caliber of Guentzel you have to sacrifice some valuable pieces. I'm fine with the draft picks, too — most likely we just end up paying a second round pick, and if we end up paying a first and a fifth it's because we made the finals and won the Cup, so who would be complaining then? Overall I think Don Waddell is doing a fantastic job as GM and building this team in a way that allows us to win now but also be sustainable for the future. We don't mortgage our future to win now, which is why we've had playoff success every year since Rod has been head coach and Don has been GM.
This was a good deal for the Penguins. Not great but good.
Too many Pens fans have an emotional attachment to Guetzel. He is around 30, has played eight years, gets hurt a lot and is smallish in stature.
Those who are pulling their hair out or wearing hairshirts need to get a grip. The Pens need to rebuild. The core has seen its best days and they are gone.
Iâd rather take this trade than Guentzel potentially walking in free agency. Such a bad season by the pens terrible
Guntezel was the white knight
Carolina did nor overpay
Guentzel and his representation made it clear no contract would be negotiated before the end of the year. Dubas was handcuffed by Guentzelâs 12-team no trade and the fact that Dubas didnât want to lose a player like that for nothing in free agency. It wasnât a great return, but Dubas didnât want to take any chances of losing Guentzel for nothing.
Dubas is definitely the most overrated exec of all time lol. They got some good prospects in this one tho
Will always appreciate Jake for what he brought to this team. Excited to see what he does in Carolina. With that being said, hockey fans be real with me are the prospects we got in the trade top 6 potential? Our fans r absolutely irate at this trade but I honestly dont think itâs that bad for a rental. Sets up our future potentially.