Problem is, McDavid has already established himself as the only other player who is on Gretzky Lemieux Orr level, and when its all said and done, he could very well be considered the greatest. At the very least he's already the most skilled ever.
Connor Mcdavid and Austin Matthews need a Stanley Cup! Crosby figured it out, Sakic figured it out, Yzerman figured it out, Lemieux figured it out, Ovechkin figured it out you have to have a cup!
Sids easily Top 5. He deserves another shot at a Cup but with Dubas as GM that’s doubtful. After all he fk’d the Leafs. As for Mathews empty netter he was actually trying to pass to William Bystander so he could get his cookie.
The part about Crosby having more 30 goal seasons than Lemieux is moot. Everybody knows that's only because of all the health issues Lemieux had. What happened, happened. I get that. But I think Lemieux's numbers are more amazing than they even look on paper, because he was playing sick or injured for basically his entire career.
But it's all beside the point. All that aside, Crosby certainly deserves his spot among the elite of the elite.
The funny thing is, i took mcdavids first 7 or 8 seasons all of them basically last year and compared to crosbys BEST 7 or 8 seasons and guess who had better stats😭 spoiler its not Crosby
Scoring goals is quite important in hockey, I'd say. The greatest goal scorer of all time doesn't make it into the top five? Ovi has scored almost as many goals as Wayne Gretzky, but he's done it against elite athletes. It's disingenuous to have the top four be untouchable. They paved the way, yes, but they played in eras where hockey was far less competitive than it is today. Gretzky, Lemieux, Ovechkin, Lidström, Hasek. Not necessarily in that order.
As a Pens fan since 1988 I think Sid is in many ways as great as Mario, and Mario is my favourite player. I think if Mario had Sid’s drive to win he would have smashed all the records and won more than 2 cups. Mario was super competitive but Sid is committed to winning in a way Mario took for granted. 2 cups for Mario was an underachievement. Sid makes the highlight reel plays regularly but also commits to doing all the little things and practicing them incessantly.
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He has a case for #5 but nothing higher. Don't even wanna talk with people who think he's cracked the big 4.
tsn still can't figure out it's volume balance on youtube smfh
Outside of individual accomplishments, Matthew's is the greatest forward in US history
He's a first ballot HOFer.
Please stop watching hockey. Watch the real sport "Soccer". Hockey is completely dead. Even hockey players switching to soccer ⚽️
Can't even give Sid his flowers for 5 minuets without talking about Matthews and the Leafs 🤨
Problem is, McDavid has already established himself as the only other player who is on Gretzky Lemieux Orr level, and when its all said and done, he could very well be considered the greatest. At the very least he's already the most skilled ever.
Is Crosby better than Jagr, Messier, Yzerman, Sakic, Francis, Howe, I don't know? We'll see where he ends up.
What does it take for a non-Canadian player to end up on the mountain? I mean, you only set Matthew's potential to be the best american player ever.
6-10
How does a video about Crosby end up involving Auston Matthews. Auston Matthews is overrated
not as high as where Matthews will end up
Connor Mcdavid and Austin Matthews need a Stanley Cup! Crosby figured it out, Sakic figured it out, Yzerman figured it out, Lemieux figured it out, Ovechkin figured it out you have to have a cup!
No, Gretzky has 18 seasons with more than a point per game.
(He has 19 seasons with at least a point per game.)
Sids easily Top 5. He deserves another shot at a Cup but with Dubas as GM that’s doubtful. After all he fk’d the Leafs. As for Mathews empty netter he was actually trying to pass to William Bystander so he could get his cookie.
6th or 7th
This is such a pre-playoff, dog days of the season filler of a conversation.
50 goals once, 40+ goals once….please let's pump the breaks. A great player but, he should not be mentioned with the top four.
The part about Crosby having more 30 goal seasons than Lemieux is moot. Everybody knows that's only because of all the health issues Lemieux had. What happened, happened. I get that. But I think Lemieux's numbers are more amazing than they even look on paper, because he was playing sick or injured for basically his entire career.
But it's all beside the point. All that aside, Crosby certainly deserves his spot among the elite of the elite.
Best all around player ever
The funny thing is, i took mcdavids first 7 or 8 seasons all of them basically last year and compared to crosbys BEST 7 or 8 seasons and guess who had better stats😭 spoiler its not Crosby
Nobody cares about what Gordie did against plumbers and firemen. Crosby is 4th at worst
When Matthew’s and Mcdavid get 3 cups then can talk about it, that’s the main reason for playing, Crosby is easily top 5
top 5?! yeah settle down.. top 3 and he's making an argument for 1… stop w the bs
Top 5 but once mcjesus done I think he’s out of the top 5 ….to me it’s 99 66 87 4 and 5(lidstrom) with hasek in the cage and bowman on the bench
Scoring goals is quite important in hockey, I'd say. The greatest goal scorer of all time doesn't make it into the top five? Ovi has scored almost as many goals as Wayne Gretzky, but he's done it against elite athletes. It's disingenuous to have the top four be untouchable. They paved the way, yes, but they played in eras where hockey was far less competitive than it is today. Gretzky, Lemieux, Ovechkin, Lidström, Hasek. Not necessarily in that order.
As a Pens fan since 1988 I think Sid is in many ways as great as Mario, and Mario is my favourite player. I think if Mario had Sid’s drive to win he would have smashed all the records and won more than 2 cups. Mario was super competitive but Sid is committed to winning in a way Mario took for granted. 2 cups for Mario was an underachievement. Sid makes the highlight reel plays regularly but also commits to doing all the little things and practicing them incessantly.
The only reason Crosby will never be considered a top 2 is because he played in an era where 4th line players could have been all stars in the 80s.
One of the GOATS.