Zach Hyman gave this retaliatory crosscheck to the face of Nikita Zadorov. I didn’t see this at first, but it falls right in line with the others. This wouldn’t happen under my system. It’s easy to be consistent who you want to be.
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Tocchett said Zadorov got stitches too. Yet nary a peep from the media or the NHL about that face shot. McDavid also did a baseball bat swing slash to start the entire sequence of events.
Both Canucks are guilty of grievous violent infractions and both Oilers too!
Yet only the Canuck players got penalized.
In a past game, Kane slew footed also.
The optics are very clear.
The NHL prefers the Oilers over the Canucks.
Looks like Tocchet might have to bet on his team to lose. I bet he wishes they didn’t play so tough. He might not want to gamble away their advantage.
Doesn’t look like much because it wasn’t much. At least he wasn’t coming from behind like that coward zadorov
WFT ….they can't say NHL is not "rigged" ….it's the same scrum …..McD is CC in the face as he is pushed downward …hardly intentional….Hyman targets the head !!!!! Big difference …..but the NHL knows the Grease Stain would lose for sure without Hyman …..NHL BS
for sure one game it's an intentional CC hit to the head …..text book …..NHL BS
and to think people bet on the NHL ????? WOW
The difference is Hymans was intentional. Soucy never meant to hit McDavid in the face.
love your channel and what you show…can you give your video other look please…when Hyman comes in he takes a punch to the face from Zadorov before any stick contact (Zadorov even drops his "guard" including bringing his own stick towards himself which may have blocked Hyman's stick)…Hyman's head is shoved to the side and that's when the part of Hyman's stick comes up (I actually think it may have rode Zadorov's punching arm up), and catches Zadorov…then Hyman's stick is one handed high in the air…definitely Hyman came in hot to defend what happened to McDavid, but I don't believe it was a direct cross check to Zadorov's face (for example without Zadorov knowing he was coming in as some people have been saying or without the punch he took to the face)…just wanted you to consider that (at 34 seconds at 0.25 speed definitely shows this)
I just watched both hits frame by frame in this video, and I've changed my opinion of both the Hyman check and the Soucy check…
I now believe, after looking at this frame by frame ( which, as a caveat, still does NOT communicate or denote intent ), Hyman's check looked like it was headed for Zadorov's shoulder, but because Zadorov punched at Hyman up under the stick, Hyman's stick was subsequently raised, and went in to Zadorov's face even while Hyman was looking away due to the punch. Had Zadorov just taken the check, or perhaps not noticed Hyman and thus not reacted, it would not have hit him in the face, I believe.
The flip of this is Soucy, who I had maintained since the event, had accidentally checked McDavid in the jaw/clavicle area. He even said as much in his post-hearing statement that it was high and unintentional. However after looking at this frame by frame, before McDavid is even going down from Zadorov's check, Soucy is checking right at McDavid's jaw/clavicle area. He may not have "meant" to hit him in the head, but the frames show that he clearly put his stick there, even before McDavid crumpled from the back check.
My opinion before this video was that Soucy's check was an accident and it was incidental due to McDavid falling, whereas Hyman was intentional, and should have received a similar or worse punishment to what Soucy received.
However after frame by framing, I now believe Soucy's check, while still likely unintended to injure, was not incidental to McDavid falling as it was at the jaw/clavicle height with McDavid standing straight, and thus deserved the suspension, which possibly could have been justified to be even more games in suspension. Whereas with Hyman's check, after watching frame by frame, I believe this was completely accidental, and if requiring any punishment, should have been a similar fine to what Zadorov received, and no more.
Did Hyman deserve a suspension too? Canucks fans have thoughts —————–
Canucks defenceman Carson Soucy will miss tonight's game with a suspension . But do the Edmonton Oilers also deserve to have someone miss Game 4?
That's what a lot of Canucks fans are saying after Rick Tocchet brought attention to a cross-check Zach Hyman delivered to the face of Nikita Zadorov.
“ [Zadorov] got cross-checked by Hyman after, ” Tocchet told reporters on Monday. “So I think there’s a couple incidents [the NHL is] looking at right now.”
Hyman’s cross-check went undetected by most initially, but he did appear to make contact with Zadorov’s head. Sportsnet’s Dan Murphy reported that Zadorov needed stitches for a cut on his face.
While Hyman’s high stick drew blood, there’s no question that Soucy’s cross-check was delivered with significantly more force. That’s probably why the NHL suspended one action but not the other.
This series hasn’t disappointed on or off the ice to this point. Players are taking runs at each other on the ice, while fans are doing the same to each other on social media.
Canucks fans and media were painted as whiners by an Oilers beat writer after Game 2. Another veteran Edmonton sports writer suggested Soucy should be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs following Game 3.
Oh, the irony.
Not to be outdone, “McCryBaby” was trending on social media Sunday night thanks to Canucks fans.
And while many in Canucks Nation concede that Soucy may have deserved his one-game suspension, they also believe Hyman got away with a cross-check of his own.
i was good with McDavid getting nothing, Zadorov getting a fine and Soucy getting a game. All that is fair given the level of the offenses. This one is infuriating because it is on a level with Soucy's cross check and DOPS has really messed up here
What a joke. Get a life dude.
Principal point of contact to me looks like it was the shoulder and not the head, and it came after Zadorov punched Hyman in the face. I see Hyman attempting to avoid the glove by lifting his stick up and then trying to pull down over the arm to deliver the stick to the chest. This is in line with the principal point of contact being the shoulder and not the face. The stick may then ride up towards and across the face of Zadorov, but does so when Hyman has one hand on his stick. Taking all of the above in, this represents more as high sticking than a crosscheck to the face. Zadorov was also an instigator on the play as a whole.
Having said that, 3 – 5 games for Zadorov, 3 – 5 for Soucy, and 1 for Hyman would be a fair exchange here.
Lots of people are trying to point Tocchett's comment about stitches as some sort of evidence of severity or something, but as far as I'm aware nobody has seen the stitches and can verify where it might have occurred. Also, players get stitches for lots of things in hockey, like high sticks…
Soucy's hit on McDavid looked so much harder than Hyman's hit on Zadorov.
I am actually baffled how McDavid isn't concussed with more visible injuries but I'm glad he's no worse for ware
So let me see if I have this straight…Soucy hits McDavid after the whistle, McDavid Slashes Soucy then Soucy Slashes him back…Is that not somewhat even at that point?. Or after you exhange slashes you can then fire a couple more cross checks into a guys back and face if If anyone come to that players aid they should be suspended 6 games? Wow that's some strange logic you have there.
Did Hyman deserve a suspension too? Canucks fans have thoughts —————–
Canucks defenceman Carson Soucy will miss tonight's game with a suspension . But do the Edmonton Oilers also deserve to have someone miss Game 4?
That's what a lot of Canucks fans are saying after Rick Tocchet brought attention to a cross-check Zach Hyman delivered to the face of Nikita Zadorov.
“ [Zadorov] got cross-checked by Hyman after, ” Tocchet told reporters on Monday. “So I think there’s a couple incidents [the NHL is] looking at right now.”
Hyman’s cross-check went undetected by most initially, but he did appear to make contact with Zadorov’s head. Sportsnet’s Dan Murphy reported that Zadorov needed stitches for a cut on his face.
While Hyman’s high stick drew blood, there’s no question that Soucy’s cross-check was delivered with significantly more force. That’s probably why the NHL suspended one action but not the other.
This series hasn’t disappointed on or off the ice to this point. Players are taking runs at each other on the ice, while fans are doing the same to each other on social media.
Canucks fans and media were painted as whiners by an Oilers beat writer after Game 2. Another veteran Edmonton sports writer suggested Soucy should be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs following Game 3.
Oh, the irony.
Not to be outdone, “McCryBaby” was trending on social media Sunday night thanks to Canucks fans.
And while many in Canucks Nation concede that Soucy may have deserved his one-game suspension, they also believe Hyman got away with a cross-check of his own.
While I don't mind a one game suspension for Carson Soucy, Hyman showed far more intent to target Zadorov's head in retaliation.
Zadorov needed stitches to close up a cut on his face. So blood and stitches doesn’t equal suspension?
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Tocchet mentioned the league had a couple things to look at including a Hyman cross check. Has to be this one below. I’m told Zadorov needed stitches to close up a cut on his face. So blood and stitches doesn’t equal suspension?
Just so we're clear:
– Zadorov 5k fine for cross check to McDavid.
– Soucy 1 game suspension for cross check to McDavids face.
– Hyman crosscheck to Zadorovs face no hearing no suspension
– Ryan cup checking Hoglander no suspension fine or hearing
– Kane slew foot on Hughes no fine suspension or hearing.
Gotcha so it's only if Oilers players are taking the shots does it matter.
While I don't mind a one game suspension for Carson Soucy, Hyman showed far more intent to target Zadorov's head in retaliation.
Soucy gets a hearing with DPOS and McDavid gets nothing for highsticking Hughes in the face, Hyman gets nothing for boarding Pettersson, Kane gets nothing for holding Zadorov’s stick and then attempting to kick him?
Every (legitimate) reason for Soucys suspension applies to Hyman as well. Crosschecks to the head are allowed after the game or they aren't.
I think there has to be consistency.
Yes, that play was probably a suspension. But if that's going to be punished, then the spear to Hoglander, and the Hyman cross check shouldn't just be ignored.
Hyman cross checked Zadorov in the face intentionally and caused damage. It’s worse man.
Bullsh*t rules lead to bullsh*t decisions. For example… Morgan Rielly gets 5 games for cross-checking Grieg – with no serious injury to the player, yet Soucy only gets 1 game for a similar offence… because he didn't have to skate over there to do it 🤣 I'm no Leafs fan, but that is bullsh*t. It's like each time something happens, they generate a random number and decide the outcome from that 🙄