Just need to know if we can get out from underneath Vals contract
BIGDINNER_
>The team explored all options and tried to terminate his contract. This much we know for sure.
I didn’t know that but I didn’t watch the whole MacFarland presser. Did he outright say they tried to terminate and they cannot?
I know if he’s allowed back in, he’ll perform well. To the authors point, he is a part of the Core 4 and is really important. But, people with addiction problems don’t just get better because they’re in trouble. You’d think $49M or however much is left to earn is a good incentive to get clean but it’s not guaranteed.
I wish him well but I guess the only way Avs get out of his contract is if he violates again and the NHL disallows him back. Or in other words, he has to blow up the team again in order for the Avs to get out of this. Quite literally a nuke in waiting.
I hope none of this manifests, he gets better, the Avs get better, and everyone is happy. We’ll see.
Lanky_Tomato_6719
If Nichsukin plays in an Avs jersey again, I will be very disappointed. Any other job in the world, you pull shit like that twice and you’d be kicked out faster you than you could say “cocaine”. I understand he’s a great player and has done a lot for the Avs, but he is not reliable and I can’t imagine the other guys have much contempt for him now in the locker room.
toochy7
Obviously there’s a lot of “what ifs” regarding Val, but as a fan I find it hard to imagine him playing for the avs again. Assuming hes allowed by the NHL to be back in November, and no one trades for him, could the Avs waive him to the Eagles where he could still get paid for his contract, but would no longer count against the Avalanche cap? Like what Washington did with Kuznetsov earlier this season
DevourerJay
Honestly, at this point, I’ll boil it down like this:
*uck Nichuskin.
He messed up royally once already (Seattle), got asked to return, was forgiven by most of the fan base.
He got a free second chance… and he snorted/ drank it/popped pills, it away… whatever it was…
So, *uck the guy, yes addictions are horrible, but HE KNEW, HE’S BEEN IN THE PLAYERS ASSISTANCE BEFORE…
Hell, THE TEAM KNEW and didn’t have him escorted? A chaperone if you will…
He made his decision, it’s absolute bull that the NHL won’t kill that stupid contract. Personal responsibility means $hit I see.
leese216
Is there a clause in these contracts that says if this happens again then he’s definitely done?
It would fit with the three strikes rule (although I guess what counts as a strike could be up for debate).
I am worried about team dynamics if he ends up playing for the Avs again, which is looking likely. How can you trust someone who has done what he’s done? And how can you cohesively perform as a team if you do not trust a key player?
frostyjack06
Man, I really hope we can make Drouin work. For his sake and for ours.
ST3LTR0
So long as it’s not in the playoffs so we really have anything to lose? The way I understand stage 4 of the players assistance program they would get a 1 year suspension and then it would be up to the league to reinstate their eligibility. Since he is currently in stage 3 we miss out on a month of him playing. Yeah the locker room might suffer for some time but that’s speculation. It’s unpredictable if he could relapse, but if he messes up one more time then it should open up his cap space. If he stays clean we likely have a solid player. Who knows though as addiction has likely impacted most of our lives to some degree, it’s really a shot in the dark as to whether their program will be successful with him or not. Hope he gets better. I understand wanting to terminate him for his faults, but the CBA might not allow that.
Level_Watercress1153
The team explored all options and tried to terminate his contract. This much we know for sure.
Ummm.. we do? No quotes, no link to sources. Just sounds like speculation to me. I’d like to see where they got the “tried to terminate his contract” from.
I interned at MHS when I was in school, and although they were solid people for the most part they definitely weren’t being handed breaking news. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but no one else is reporting that and well… this is the same people that employed Benjamin Albright and James Marilatt…
Strik3rr
Fuck Val and the union that backs him, this is pathetic that he’s already been busted twice, including once with human trafficking victim, and his contract can’t be terminated.
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Just need to know if we can get out from underneath Vals contract
>The team explored all options and tried to terminate his contract. This much we know for sure.
I didn’t know that but I didn’t watch the whole MacFarland presser. Did he outright say they tried to terminate and they cannot?
I know if he’s allowed back in, he’ll perform well. To the authors point, he is a part of the Core 4 and is really important. But, people with addiction problems don’t just get better because they’re in trouble. You’d think $49M or however much is left to earn is a good incentive to get clean but it’s not guaranteed.
I wish him well but I guess the only way Avs get out of his contract is if he violates again and the NHL disallows him back. Or in other words, he has to blow up the team again in order for the Avs to get out of this. Quite literally a nuke in waiting.
I hope none of this manifests, he gets better, the Avs get better, and everyone is happy. We’ll see.
If Nichsukin plays in an Avs jersey again, I will be very disappointed. Any other job in the world, you pull shit like that twice and you’d be kicked out faster you than you could say “cocaine”. I understand he’s a great player and has done a lot for the Avs, but he is not reliable and I can’t imagine the other guys have much contempt for him now in the locker room.
Obviously there’s a lot of “what ifs” regarding Val, but as a fan I find it hard to imagine him playing for the avs again. Assuming hes allowed by the NHL to be back in November, and no one trades for him, could the Avs waive him to the Eagles where he could still get paid for his contract, but would no longer count against the Avalanche cap? Like what Washington did with Kuznetsov earlier this season
Honestly, at this point, I’ll boil it down like this:
*uck Nichuskin.
He messed up royally once already (Seattle), got asked to return, was forgiven by most of the fan base.
He got a free second chance… and he snorted/ drank it/popped pills, it away… whatever it was…
So, *uck the guy, yes addictions are horrible, but HE KNEW, HE’S BEEN IN THE PLAYERS ASSISTANCE BEFORE…
Hell, THE TEAM KNEW and didn’t have him escorted? A chaperone if you will…
He made his decision, it’s absolute bull that the NHL won’t kill that stupid contract. Personal responsibility means $hit I see.
Is there a clause in these contracts that says if this happens again then he’s definitely done?
It would fit with the three strikes rule (although I guess what counts as a strike could be up for debate).
I am worried about team dynamics if he ends up playing for the Avs again, which is looking likely. How can you trust someone who has done what he’s done? And how can you cohesively perform as a team if you do not trust a key player?
Man, I really hope we can make Drouin work. For his sake and for ours.
So long as it’s not in the playoffs so we really have anything to lose? The way I understand stage 4 of the players assistance program they would get a 1 year suspension and then it would be up to the league to reinstate their eligibility. Since he is currently in stage 3 we miss out on a month of him playing. Yeah the locker room might suffer for some time but that’s speculation. It’s unpredictable if he could relapse, but if he messes up one more time then it should open up his cap space. If he stays clean we likely have a solid player. Who knows though as addiction has likely impacted most of our lives to some degree, it’s really a shot in the dark as to whether their program will be successful with him or not. Hope he gets better. I understand wanting to terminate him for his faults, but the CBA might not allow that.
The team explored all options and tried to terminate his contract. This much we know for sure.
Ummm.. we do? No quotes, no link to sources. Just sounds like speculation to me. I’d like to see where they got the “tried to terminate his contract” from.
I interned at MHS when I was in school, and although they were solid people for the most part they definitely weren’t being handed breaking news. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but no one else is reporting that and well… this is the same people that employed Benjamin Albright and James Marilatt…
Fuck Val and the union that backs him, this is pathetic that he’s already been busted twice, including once with human trafficking victim, and his contract can’t be terminated.