You have to wonder what the ask was. If he wanted $8 million for 8 years it would be idiotic not to sign him, but I could see why Treliving would not sign him if he wanted an AAV in the $10 million range.
Professional-Ebb6711
He’s gone, who gives a shit about it anymore. He was/is one of my favourites, sad it ended this way. Time to move on.
Steve78293
Yea if Gaudreau stayed Tkachuk probably would’ve. Flames could’ve easily ran it back after 2022, no team wins it all in their first year of contention.
Full_Examination_920
Lmao. Bullshit
Scissors4215
Bullshit.
GovernmentHunting016
Treliving bridged him because he didn’t want to lose Frolik lmao
Grimmer026
Hey at least we got Hueberdeau locked up for like the next decade.
DUCKY_23
Didn’t want to sign Chucky to a long term contract. Theb lowballed the crap out of Johnny to the point of souring relations afterwards.
Fuck Brad Treliving. Wasted our 6 year rebuild.
rogerthatjim
This is also kinda revisionist history and a hindsight take. 2019-2020 we were mid as hell and got snuffed out by Dallas with ease in the bubble. Then 20-21 we didn’t even make playoffs in the fucking Canadian “north” division. This sub and the fan base in general at this point was already calling for Johnnys head and was still skeptical about Tkachuk.
I’ve come around to also hate Tre for fucking us pretty hard with the Hube extensions but ya’ll would have RIOTED if he signed Chuck and Johnny to long term extensions after those two years, especially Johnny. There’s a REASON they wanted extensions and security. It was two dogass seasons
JRP_964
This is old news
monstermash420
Pretty sure he wanted Austin Matthews money early on. It’s easy to see it would have been a good signing now.
KingQuong
This is old news Tkachuk talked about it after he left.
sawdust_84
Yeah, that’s not news. Chucky wanted the C and the extension that summer and flames felt he was to immature. Johnny was barely offered a raise and like 6 years. So both those guys had something to prove so they could leave. Sad knowing that but wondering if it was tre that screwed it all up or ownership ? They tried the same thing with iggy. Cgy has never been a good place for stars.
MonkeySailor
Treliving was/is an utter idiot when it came to understanding the cap. I swear, most folks, especially within the Flames organization, still think of it as little more than a glorified budget with a hard number you need to be below and some vague number you have to be above and that’s it. Insanity.
Where as, most other organizations have at least understood the basics, i.e. prioritize your core and lock them up for max term, even if you have to overpay, which is usually the case for small to medium sized undesirable markets. The supporting cast is just that; their contracts should be low and easily moveable. Lastly, quality drafting is absolutely foundational to remaining competitive.
Meanwhile, Treliving did pretty much the exact opposite. Played hardball with core players constantly undervaluing them while at the same time, throwing wads of cash and term at useless over the hill free agents. Threw away picks like they were burning a hole in his pocket. Prioritized reserve lists over development and opportunity.
Super glad he’s now with the Leafs
Longjumping-Limit827
Yea we know lol just watch 🌲 will turn 🍁 into 🔥
robbhope
The amount of revisionist history in here is hilarious. People loved Treliving’s RFA deals. They were superb. Not just Chucky but Johnny, Dougie, Lindholm and Hanifin. He was a solid GM for us in a lot of ways. Arguably the best GM we’ve ever had. Our drafting and development has improved by leaps and bounds since he (and Weisbrod) came along. I credit Feaster with a lot of this as well.
You guys keep ripping on a guy that was constantly trying to run the team as best he could while Murray Edwards mettled with things, forced the rebuild to end early, forced Treliving to take a “win-now” deal with Florida for Chucky rather than one of the rebuild offers, etc etc etc.
Everybody wishes we extended Johnny and Chucky after their horrid seasons where everybody on the team looked awful but honestly, that would’ve been met with a ton of pushback from the fans and media. “We can’t win with Johnny.” “We can’t win with this core” “why are we extending these losers” “Chucky doesn’t show up in the playoffs”
I’m reading these posts and it’s like none of you watch the games or even listen to the Fan. NOBODY was saying extend them early. NOBODY wanted Treliving gone. Even the Flames themselves. They offered him numerous contract extensions throughout the season and he turned US down lol.
You guys can blame Treliving all you want but for the love of God at least see that Murray Edwards is the common denominator in the past 30+ years. He’s your enemy. Not one GM lol.
marlboro__man9
Waaaaaaaaaa but sutter is bad GMBT is the best. Everyone in here last year
sixthirty630
Is what it is now. But Tre is a piece of shit and should be strung up if he ever comes to Calgary. Didn’t sign Johnny or Tkachuk when he could have – then stitched us up with some horrible contracts. Absolute dog – didn’t care about the city or team just tried to cover his own ass.
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You have to wonder what the ask was. If he wanted $8 million for 8 years it would be idiotic not to sign him, but I could see why Treliving would not sign him if he wanted an AAV in the $10 million range.
He’s gone, who gives a shit about it anymore. He was/is one of my favourites, sad it ended this way. Time to move on.
Yea if Gaudreau stayed Tkachuk probably would’ve. Flames could’ve easily ran it back after 2022, no team wins it all in their first year of contention.
Lmao. Bullshit
Bullshit.
Treliving bridged him because he didn’t want to lose Frolik lmao
Hey at least we got Hueberdeau locked up for like the next decade.
Didn’t want to sign Chucky to a long term contract. Theb lowballed the crap out of Johnny to the point of souring relations afterwards.
Fuck Brad Treliving. Wasted our 6 year rebuild.
This is also kinda revisionist history and a hindsight take. 2019-2020 we were mid as hell and got snuffed out by Dallas with ease in the bubble. Then 20-21 we didn’t even make playoffs in the fucking Canadian “north” division. This sub and the fan base in general at this point was already calling for Johnnys head and was still skeptical about Tkachuk.
I’ve come around to also hate Tre for fucking us pretty hard with the Hube extensions but ya’ll would have RIOTED if he signed Chuck and Johnny to long term extensions after those two years, especially Johnny. There’s a REASON they wanted extensions and security. It was two dogass seasons
This is old news
Pretty sure he wanted Austin Matthews money early on. It’s easy to see it would have been a good signing now.
This is old news Tkachuk talked about it after he left.
Yeah, that’s not news. Chucky wanted the C and the extension that summer and flames felt he was to immature. Johnny was barely offered a raise and like 6 years. So both those guys had something to prove so they could leave. Sad knowing that but wondering if it was tre that screwed it all up or ownership ? They tried the same thing with iggy. Cgy has never been a good place for stars.
Treliving was/is an utter idiot when it came to understanding the cap. I swear, most folks, especially within the Flames organization, still think of it as little more than a glorified budget with a hard number you need to be below and some vague number you have to be above and that’s it. Insanity.
Where as, most other organizations have at least understood the basics, i.e. prioritize your core and lock them up for max term, even if you have to overpay, which is usually the case for small to medium sized undesirable markets. The supporting cast is just that; their contracts should be low and easily moveable. Lastly, quality drafting is absolutely foundational to remaining competitive.
Meanwhile, Treliving did pretty much the exact opposite. Played hardball with core players constantly undervaluing them while at the same time, throwing wads of cash and term at useless over the hill free agents. Threw away picks like they were burning a hole in his pocket. Prioritized reserve lists over development and opportunity.
Super glad he’s now with the Leafs
Yea we know lol just watch 🌲 will turn 🍁 into 🔥
The amount of revisionist history in here is hilarious. People loved Treliving’s RFA deals. They were superb. Not just Chucky but Johnny, Dougie, Lindholm and Hanifin. He was a solid GM for us in a lot of ways. Arguably the best GM we’ve ever had. Our drafting and development has improved by leaps and bounds since he (and Weisbrod) came along. I credit Feaster with a lot of this as well.
You guys keep ripping on a guy that was constantly trying to run the team as best he could while Murray Edwards mettled with things, forced the rebuild to end early, forced Treliving to take a “win-now” deal with Florida for Chucky rather than one of the rebuild offers, etc etc etc.
Everybody wishes we extended Johnny and Chucky after their horrid seasons where everybody on the team looked awful but honestly, that would’ve been met with a ton of pushback from the fans and media. “We can’t win with Johnny.” “We can’t win with this core” “why are we extending these losers” “Chucky doesn’t show up in the playoffs”
I’m reading these posts and it’s like none of you watch the games or even listen to the Fan. NOBODY was saying extend them early. NOBODY wanted Treliving gone. Even the Flames themselves. They offered him numerous contract extensions throughout the season and he turned US down lol.
You guys can blame Treliving all you want but for the love of God at least see that Murray Edwards is the common denominator in the past 30+ years. He’s your enemy. Not one GM lol.
Waaaaaaaaaa but sutter is bad GMBT is the best. Everyone in here last year
Is what it is now. But Tre is a piece of shit and should be strung up if he ever comes to Calgary. Didn’t sign Johnny or Tkachuk when he could have – then stitched us up with some horrible contracts. Absolute dog – didn’t care about the city or team just tried to cover his own ass.
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