I also wonder if this has anything to do with the recent Laine report.
edit: alright I understand why now thank you for the explanations
liar_rabbit
I feel worse for the fans.
Civil_Eng_PE
Well. This is the full reset we needed. Feel horribly for Pascal and I hope he gets another shot elsewhere
steckums
I was fine with giving him another year until he called the Russian line “Globetrotters” and made them tone it down. In a lost season like this one, you let your young players see what they can get away with.
Wonder who we’ll get instead.
CrazyLegLaFleur1
Thank goodness. I was not looking forward to another season of him as coach. He definitely was dropped into a rough spot, but he also wasnt very good. Looking forward to seeing who Waddell chooses.
DrJownes
Surely McCarthy and Recchi also gone , please
ohst8buxcp7
Had to do it. Right move for the club. PV will land on his feet.
JunesDepartmentStore
Personally I would’ve given him at least the start of the year, he was thrown into the fire because of Babcock and he has a proven track record in the minors and AHL
But if Waddell thinks that we need a new voice in the room and believes Pascal isn’t the right coach to build and develop the kind of on ice performance he wants, then I’m behind it
bucknuts34
It’s the right move. I understand how bad of a spot he was put in but this organization needs a clean reset. Hopefully he’ll get another chance elsewhere.
Green9510
Yeah considering we haven’t had any news of a vote of confidence from the Pascal front for well over a week not shocked at all.
KaleidoscopeTop9696
This season doesn’t define how Pascal is as a coach. I think he can be a very good NHL coach but just wasn’t the right coach at the right time here.
bclautz
Feel like this is the right decision. I think if they keep Pascal he would be a lame duck. Feel like if they struggled he would be let go fast.
AlanLGuy
Good. Tired of piss poor results. If Waddell thinks this is what had to happen for the team to get better, then I’m all for it. Was rooting for Vincent, but the team didn’t play all that well under him, and you could argue he had better injury luck(and maybe even personnel) than Larsen did his last year.
TheSmokedSalmon420
What a disaster last offseason was. Literally sent us into a full rebuild because they fucked up the Babcock thing so horribly. Wow.
ddottay
Freedom!
Sorry Pascal, I know it wasn’t an easy jump but too many players were publicly mad at you to keep you around. Good luck elsewhere.
sergei-boobtitsky
We keep doing smart things, it’s making me feel weird
JeffThatGuy
Here comes Trent Vogelhuber 🫡
hnglmkrnglbrry
I’ve been beating this drum for months. Seems like a nice guy but also seemed like he was completely in over his head. There was literally nothing he could point to throughout the season to support him keeping his job. No one wants to hear excuses about how the year started and he had 82 games to figure it out.
EverlastingEvening
Feel so bad for PV that he was forced and had to deal with the outcome of Babcock shitstorm. Hopefully we see him behind another bench soon.
SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK
In a shocking turn of events, /r/hockey doesn’t know what they’re talking about with this move.
crustybeamer
Would anyone hate to see Vogelburger as the next HC?
Hazy_eyePA
David Carle get ready to learn Columbusese, buddy.
borishasarrived
Now all we need is a jersey/logo rebrand and we are good to go
P-Rickles
I mean, he got fuuuucked as far as set up was concerned. Basically destined to fail. Would’ve taken a miracle to make anything but a shit sandwich after they handed him two slices of bread and a pile of turds. Still, this is the right move.
Striking-Yellow9252
The last three HCs have lasted 82 games on average. That is… bad.
mickeyhause
Genuinely surprised. Did not think this was the move that would be made, no matter how necessary
Hazy_eyePA
John Tortorella, Brad Larsen, Mike Babcock, Pascal Vincent, Coach TBD.
That is 5 coaches in 3 years and 1 month. This fan base has been through so much bullshit for years and years with this team.
Please hockey gods, let us get this decision right so we can have a coach to build with. Please 🙏
Pyzorz
Three head coaches in three years is pretty unbelievable. At the end of the day it falls on previous leadership and hopefully it’s onward and upward from here.
Edit: It’s actually going to be four (technically). Holy shit lol
ILM_Ryan
Team needs a full reset.
ShartRat
Pascal was a very bad fit for us but I really do feel for him and he definitely deserves another chance somewhere else. His systems weren’t built for our current roster and it doesn’t help that he was thrown to the wolves with the whole Babcock nightmare. He seems like a really intelligent person and he will definitely be on another coaching staff sometime in the future.
DeekFTW
Clean house and bring in a new fresh set of eyes from the top down is what we’ve desperately needed for a few years now. Let’s bring in someone who can pull the potential out of the roster instead of trying to shoehorn it into something it ain’t.
indy_6548
I hope Boll stays around. I don’t even entirely know what he does but I just like the guy.
Violent_Mud_Butt
Good riddance.
Delta24__
Sure. Pascal was dropped into a really really bad situation. But it was very clear he was not the guy. His decisions were awful over and over
ArchCityZach
This makes me worried that Vogelhuber is gone. I find it hard to see him promoting him to HC. Maybe he can be a new AC? But if he doesn’t get promoted, he’ll be gone by the end of next season.
IceJester22
I just don’t get why the sub is defending PV. Yeah, he was dropped into a tough spot. But I think his expectations were aligned to the context, and he STILL failed.
Jenner getting 25+ minutes a night with back issues. Making Jiricek analogies to his preteen daughter. Globetrotter comment on the Russians. 0 line consistency, always in the blender. And playing Fantalli at wing, yet letting Laine play center? Dude was in WAY over his head and it had nothing to do with the W/L ratio.
CoachCrunch12
He was put in a bad spot..but he also did a bad job in that bad spot. I have full confidence he would do a bad job in a good spot too.
lelander193
Thank god, a real reset
osubigk12
Thank the Lord! Full reset was our only option. Glad they pulled the trigger now
Fanpuck33
Had to be done. The organization needed a major overhaul in leadership and while he only had the big job for one season, he’d been part of the leadership for three seasons. There was very little chance that a coach whom the previous GM had passed over for the job twice already was going to keep his job under a new GM.
Ralphcox69
Probably best for a clean split. Better than firing him in July. He’ll land someone else. Wonder if they have someone specific in mind?
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holy shit, it’s actually happening.
wonder why it took this long?
I also wonder if this has anything to do with the recent Laine report.
edit: alright I understand why now thank you for the explanations
I feel worse for the fans.
Well. This is the full reset we needed. Feel horribly for Pascal and I hope he gets another shot elsewhere
I was fine with giving him another year until he called the Russian line “Globetrotters” and made them tone it down. In a lost season like this one, you let your young players see what they can get away with.
Wonder who we’ll get instead.
Thank goodness. I was not looking forward to another season of him as coach. He definitely was dropped into a rough spot, but he also wasnt very good. Looking forward to seeing who Waddell chooses.
Surely McCarthy and Recchi also gone , please
Had to do it. Right move for the club. PV will land on his feet.
Personally I would’ve given him at least the start of the year, he was thrown into the fire because of Babcock and he has a proven track record in the minors and AHL
But if Waddell thinks that we need a new voice in the room and believes Pascal isn’t the right coach to build and develop the kind of on ice performance he wants, then I’m behind it
It’s the right move. I understand how bad of a spot he was put in but this organization needs a clean reset. Hopefully he’ll get another chance elsewhere.
Yeah considering we haven’t had any news of a vote of confidence from the Pascal front for well over a week not shocked at all.
This season doesn’t define how Pascal is as a coach. I think he can be a very good NHL coach but just wasn’t the right coach at the right time here.
Feel like this is the right decision. I think if they keep Pascal he would be a lame duck. Feel like if they struggled he would be let go fast.
Good. Tired of piss poor results. If Waddell thinks this is what had to happen for the team to get better, then I’m all for it. Was rooting for Vincent, but the team didn’t play all that well under him, and you could argue he had better injury luck(and maybe even personnel) than Larsen did his last year.
What a disaster last offseason was. Literally sent us into a full rebuild because they fucked up the Babcock thing so horribly. Wow.
Freedom!
Sorry Pascal, I know it wasn’t an easy jump but too many players were publicly mad at you to keep you around. Good luck elsewhere.
We keep doing smart things, it’s making me feel weird
Here comes Trent Vogelhuber 🫡
I’ve been beating this drum for months. Seems like a nice guy but also seemed like he was completely in over his head. There was literally nothing he could point to throughout the season to support him keeping his job. No one wants to hear excuses about how the year started and he had 82 games to figure it out.
Feel so bad for PV that he was forced and had to deal with the outcome of Babcock shitstorm. Hopefully we see him behind another bench soon.
In a shocking turn of events, /r/hockey doesn’t know what they’re talking about with this move.
Would anyone hate to see Vogelburger as the next HC?
David Carle get ready to learn Columbusese, buddy.
Now all we need is a jersey/logo rebrand and we are good to go
I mean, he got fuuuucked as far as set up was concerned. Basically destined to fail. Would’ve taken a miracle to make anything but a shit sandwich after they handed him two slices of bread and a pile of turds. Still, this is the right move.
The last three HCs have lasted 82 games on average. That is… bad.
Genuinely surprised. Did not think this was the move that would be made, no matter how necessary
John Tortorella, Brad Larsen, Mike Babcock, Pascal Vincent, Coach TBD.
That is 5 coaches in 3 years and 1 month. This fan base has been through so much bullshit for years and years with this team.
Please hockey gods, let us get this decision right so we can have a coach to build with. Please 🙏
Three head coaches in three years is pretty unbelievable. At the end of the day it falls on previous leadership and hopefully it’s onward and upward from here.
Edit: It’s actually going to be four (technically). Holy shit lol
Team needs a full reset.
Pascal was a very bad fit for us but I really do feel for him and he definitely deserves another chance somewhere else. His systems weren’t built for our current roster and it doesn’t help that he was thrown to the wolves with the whole Babcock nightmare. He seems like a really intelligent person and he will definitely be on another coaching staff sometime in the future.
Clean house and bring in a new fresh set of eyes from the top down is what we’ve desperately needed for a few years now. Let’s bring in someone who can pull the potential out of the roster instead of trying to shoehorn it into something it ain’t.
I hope Boll stays around. I don’t even entirely know what he does but I just like the guy.
Good riddance.
Sure. Pascal was dropped into a really really bad situation. But it was very clear he was not the guy. His decisions were awful over and over
This makes me worried that Vogelhuber is gone. I find it hard to see him promoting him to HC. Maybe he can be a new AC? But if he doesn’t get promoted, he’ll be gone by the end of next season.
I just don’t get why the sub is defending PV. Yeah, he was dropped into a tough spot. But I think his expectations were aligned to the context, and he STILL failed.
Jenner getting 25+ minutes a night with back issues. Making Jiricek analogies to his preteen daughter. Globetrotter comment on the Russians. 0 line consistency, always in the blender. And playing Fantalli at wing, yet letting Laine play center? Dude was in WAY over his head and it had nothing to do with the W/L ratio.
He was put in a bad spot..but he also did a bad job in that bad spot. I have full confidence he would do a bad job in a good spot too.
Thank god, a real reset
Thank the Lord! Full reset was our only option. Glad they pulled the trigger now
Had to be done. The organization needed a major overhaul in leadership and while he only had the big job for one season, he’d been part of the leadership for three seasons. There was very little chance that a coach whom the previous GM had passed over for the job twice already was going to keep his job under a new GM.
Probably best for a clean split. Better than firing him in July. He’ll land someone else. Wonder if they have someone specific in mind?