[CapFriendly] “The Flames now have 15 picks in the first three rounds over the next three seasons.” Six 1st Round Picks, Four 2nd Round Picks and Five 3rd Round Picks.
[CapFriendly] “The Flames now have 15 picks in the first three rounds over the next three seasons.” Six 1st Round Picks, Four 2nd Round Picks and Five 3rd Round Picks.
This was sooo needed, as well. Hopefully we get a few big hits out of them.
Alarmed-dictator
Let him cook
Chemical_Signal2753
The trade falls completely in line with everything we have seen from Conroy. He is moving away from aging veterans and replacing them with young or undervalued players who can play today, and acquiring draft capital and prospects to build for the future. The fan base has complained about the young and undervalued players (Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and Miromanov) on all of the trades and has been proven wrong in every case. Its almost like he knows what he is doing.
I expect to see more of this moving forward. Whether the players he acquires stay long term or not, they will get a lot of opportunity to prove they’re better than they were when we traded for them and we can likely trade them for more than we acquired them for. The draft picks are also likely crucial for the team’s long term success. Three or four years of drafting in the top 10 along with dozens of draft picks in the early rounds of the draft will likely result in a lot of skilled players being drafted and developed.
tristan1616
Now we just need to stick the landing with them and not have any more galaxy brained moments and draft the next Jankowski in the first round
dbhabie
Let him cook I guess
Paulhockey77
This is a rebuild. Retool my foot
Specialist-One-712
I don’t like this trade, but Conroy has been in on some of our biggest and best draft decisions for the past decade. So I’m optimistic that we can at least get some excellent talent with all the capital.
TL10
Somewhat apropos: Flames are also heading into this season with a Cap Hit of $64.8M, leaving them with $23.2M in Cap Space.
ProphetOfScorch
Too bad that really only 2/6 of those firsts are gonna be top 10 picks
BlackFalconEscalator
Yeah, I am a fan of this!
WildWestW
Do the Flames rely on cap friendly?
MisfitFlame
I’d just like to see a 1oA in my time, even top 3 would be nice considering we’ve never done it
Hungry-Raisin-5328
What’s the backup on that condition (i.e. if they have a top 10 pick)?
Straight-Plate-5256
I know people are screaming this is a rebuild, but honestly I still think we’re toeing the aggressive re-tool/ rebuild line and *the next* moves will be what dictate their believed timeline. Whether it be trades or signings in FA
Grimmer026
Our problem is not drafting, we’ve had a really damn good track record of drafting well. Our problem is retaining talent.
doughflow
Show us whatcha got Wolfy
Prof_Seismitoad
Marky numbers as a flame
4th in games played (213)
4th in wins (105)
2nd in Shutouts (15)
7th in GAA
9th in sv%
MeursaultWasGuilty
Its probably not that deep, but I do wonder if this is some moneyball type calculation where they figured out what the chances are of a given pick turning into a top player and they’re trying to accumulate enough picks to bring that calculation up to above 100%.
That’s almost certainly not the case, but it does seem to be a very “calculated” kind of feel to all of Conroy’s move, like he’s following some formula in that vein.
Baginsses
As an ex flames and current oilers fan this makes me sad. Theres a good chance the flames will be peaking as the oilers enter a rebuild. It’s more fun when both teams are peaking at the same time, the rivalry is way more fun that way.
MonkeySailor
This is how you rebuild. Great work to start the process by Conroy thus far.
kobedziuba
Now move NJ 1st and Van 1st for Utah 1st
---TC---
Bring on the kids!
outdoorfun123
This is the way.
Next up mangi and raz as their windows and the Flames don’t line up. Let them compete for a cup.
And then sign some ufa’s 1 and 2 year deals. Build a serviceable team and have more expiring contracts to use to acquire more assets at the draft.
Daft_Funk87
Its almost like Conroy is gonna Moneyball this team.
Vinny331
And if you stretch it backwards in time, Conroy has added another 3rd rounder from 2023 (Brzustewicz) and a 2nd rounder from 2021 (Grushnikov) with the recent trades.
Pretty strong 15-22 age group coming in for us. Hopefully that’ll look real nice when they become the 23-30 cohort.
Top_Tumbleweed
This is as close to a rebuild as we’re going to get. I will say the boys pulled some decent form together in the back half of last season, even if we didn’t win games they were watchable and we were competing again.
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Conroy got this
This was sooo needed, as well. Hopefully we get a few big hits out of them.
Let him cook
The trade falls completely in line with everything we have seen from Conroy. He is moving away from aging veterans and replacing them with young or undervalued players who can play today, and acquiring draft capital and prospects to build for the future. The fan base has complained about the young and undervalued players (Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and Miromanov) on all of the trades and has been proven wrong in every case. Its almost like he knows what he is doing.
I expect to see more of this moving forward. Whether the players he acquires stay long term or not, they will get a lot of opportunity to prove they’re better than they were when we traded for them and we can likely trade them for more than we acquired them for. The draft picks are also likely crucial for the team’s long term success. Three or four years of drafting in the top 10 along with dozens of draft picks in the early rounds of the draft will likely result in a lot of skilled players being drafted and developed.
Now we just need to stick the landing with them and not have any more galaxy brained moments and draft the next Jankowski in the first round
Let him cook I guess
This is a rebuild. Retool my foot
I don’t like this trade, but Conroy has been in on some of our biggest and best draft decisions for the past decade. So I’m optimistic that we can at least get some excellent talent with all the capital.
Somewhat apropos: Flames are also heading into this season with a Cap Hit of $64.8M, leaving them with $23.2M in Cap Space.
Too bad that really only 2/6 of those firsts are gonna be top 10 picks
Yeah, I am a fan of this!
Do the Flames rely on cap friendly?
I’d just like to see a 1oA in my time, even top 3 would be nice considering we’ve never done it
What’s the backup on that condition (i.e. if they have a top 10 pick)?
I know people are screaming this is a rebuild, but honestly I still think we’re toeing the aggressive re-tool/ rebuild line and *the next* moves will be what dictate their believed timeline. Whether it be trades or signings in FA
Our problem is not drafting, we’ve had a really damn good track record of drafting well. Our problem is retaining talent.
Show us whatcha got Wolfy
Marky numbers as a flame
4th in games played (213)
4th in wins (105)
2nd in Shutouts (15)
7th in GAA
9th in sv%
Its probably not that deep, but I do wonder if this is some moneyball type calculation where they figured out what the chances are of a given pick turning into a top player and they’re trying to accumulate enough picks to bring that calculation up to above 100%.
That’s almost certainly not the case, but it does seem to be a very “calculated” kind of feel to all of Conroy’s move, like he’s following some formula in that vein.
As an ex flames and current oilers fan this makes me sad. Theres a good chance the flames will be peaking as the oilers enter a rebuild. It’s more fun when both teams are peaking at the same time, the rivalry is way more fun that way.
This is how you rebuild. Great work to start the process by Conroy thus far.
Now move NJ 1st and Van 1st for Utah 1st
Bring on the kids!
This is the way.
Next up mangi and raz as their windows and the Flames don’t line up. Let them compete for a cup.
And then sign some ufa’s 1 and 2 year deals. Build a serviceable team and have more expiring contracts to use to acquire more assets at the draft.
Its almost like Conroy is gonna Moneyball this team.
And if you stretch it backwards in time, Conroy has added another 3rd rounder from 2023 (Brzustewicz) and a 2nd rounder from 2021 (Grushnikov) with the recent trades.
Pretty strong 15-22 age group coming in for us. Hopefully that’ll look real nice when they become the 23-30 cohort.
This is as close to a rebuild as we’re going to get. I will say the boys pulled some decent form together in the back half of last season, even if we didn’t win games they were watchable and we were competing again.