[LGRW Prospects] Seravalli on Daily Faceoff Live: GMs surprised by sweetener for Walman, some asking why they didn’t know about it and that they would’ve done it in a heartbeat
[LGRW Prospects] Seravalli on Daily Faceoff Live: GMs surprised by sweetener for Walman, some asking why they didn’t know about it and that they would’ve done it in a heartbeat
Just a massive red flag. Didn’t even bother shopping him around the league. Seravalli and Friedman are both linking them to Gibson too, who has been absolute shit for 6 straight years. None of this makes ANY SENSE.
Fresh-Reaction151
I mean.. I’m sure the majority of teams would’ve jumped at the chance to get paid a draft pick to take on a decent starting D-man on a good contract.
You can let us taste what you’re cooking anytime now, Steve.
barchamb13
Need to see those future considerations notes
Flowsnice
If they would’ve taken Holl too, then I’d be all for it. Heck if they would’ve taken Fabbri, I would’ve been happy. Walman wasn’t that bad a player or contract that we have to attach a second to the deal to get rid of him and I’m by no Means a Walman fan
The_ManWithNoName
My heads about to pop. I don’t know why we didn’t try to put him through waivers first.
Eillris
Wonder if this was to control WHO got Walman? Like…. Steve gets to choose to not play against him by putting him in SJ? Too big brained?
CakeEater
This is why I suspect that there has to be something else in the works. The move on its own simply doesn’t make any sense at all. Waiving Walman would have gotten rid of him just fine without losing a 2nd round pick.
Something else is cooking, that or Yzerman had a stroke.
wsx13
Everyone needs to R E L A X
Get thru the buyout period. Get thru the draft. Then see what happens in Free Agency. See where things stand come training camp.
If, by then, this was just a BAD DEAL, Stevie should rightfully be called on it. But, if something bigger and better materializes, we’ll be signing his praises. It sucks right now, but time will tell….
QualityCardboard
I’ve been an yzerman truther since day 1. This trade was a point for me where I just have lost hope. Really hope he proves me wrong but you’d have to do some serious mental gymnastics to come up with a situation where this is a good move
BelwasDeservedBetter
This just breathes a tiny bit of life into the dying ember of hope that this is one of the rare occasions where future considerations actually turns out to be something.
Dmckilla7
Hopefully future consideration is taking on the buyout of holl or copp or both.
TheAnalogKid18
What the fuck are we doing here? I’ve been a massive defender of Yzerman throughout this entire process, but his moves over the past two years have been horrible outside of signing Patrick Kane and his first round picks + Augustine (I’m actually fond of Kasper, Danielson, and ASP).
We keep thinking that he’s just going to galaxy brain the league here, but maybe he really is just making bad moves. This is the exact shit we chased Kenny out the door over, and while Kenny was still doing dumb shit in Edmonton that likely cost them a Cup that with better roster construction they could have easily won, Yzerman was supposed to be different. Who actually built the team in Tampa? Was it more Al Murray?
The Amateur scouting team seems alright, I’ve had my criticisms of Draper, but overall they’re not busting on 1sts, and might hit a later round pick or two, but this pro scouting team is outright garbage. What the fuck are you thinking making these moves? This isn’t 1999 anymore, everyone is using sophisticated metrics to build teams, so the “tough, smelly defenseman” also has to be good at playing fucking hockey.
We’re dumping Jake Walman off, WITH A PICK, to be in on Chychrun, who can’t even stay healthy? We trade away a promising RHD prospect for a 2nd that we just gave way, and the player we got back is a nothingburger that may play some games in GR. I like John Gibson, I think he’s a good goalie behind the right defense. We do not have a good defense. We better not be giving up significant asset to get him, pay him $6m a year, when we need money to pay Kane, or go after Guentzel, or Necas, or SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING SCORE GOALS.
Andrew Copp? Paid to be a decent 2C, is a 3-4C. Compher, paid to be a 2C, is a GOOD 3C, fair. Chiarot, without extremely favorable deployment, he’s a disaster that can’t eat big minutes, almost $5m a year. Justin Holl, 2 more years of him sitting in the press box or making the worst decision you’ve ever seen.
Glad we got rid of Nielsen, Abby, Helm, and Ericsson! We definitely didn’t just sign modern versions of these terrible contracts!
Dangle rant over.
redwingsHELLyea
Yzerman and the sharks know something that’s gonna happen on the draft floor
One_Handed_Wonder
Best case scenario is we waive Holl and San Jose picks him up. Other than that I really have no clue.
Th3_Dark_Knight
The last year and a half of Stevie’s moves aren’t doing a whole lot to inspire confidence.
I love the guy and he’s one of my all-time sports heroes but he’s making some really questionable choices.
SwisschaletDipSauce
I’m all for the Yzerplan but this, this was a fucking mistake.
beardofzetterberg
With the information that we currently have on the situation, this looks like one of the dumbest trades I have ever seen.
JiffTheJester
Yeah I don’t have to be a GM to be surprised. wtf
akitomo13
Anticipation anxiety is peaking
RemoteSenses
People need to relax.
I’m fine with criticizing Yzerman, but so far I don’t have many issues with anything he’s done. Were some of the contracts last year not the best? Absolutely. Did he actively improve the team drastically in about 2 years? Absolutely.
We missed playoffs by one game last year, a huge improvement over the year before.
We got Patty Kane to come to town.
We signed Larkin to basically retire as a Wing.
We could’ve easily won 10+ more games last season had we not had goalie woes and injuries.
This team is moving forward for the better, and this trade is so puzzling to a point that there has to be more to it. We won’t know until Friday (draft) or Monday (free agency). Until then we are all just speculating.
jdidihttjisoiheinr
I’m thinking those future considerations involve the draft, and Yzerman doesn’t want to tip his hand about who he’s going for.
Yzerman didn’t just suddenly become brain dead. He knows he could have just waived Walman.
laferri2
There are only two possibilities:
SJ going to eat one of our contracts.
Yzerman is braindead and needs to be fired.
Hope for one, prepare for the other. This tweet makes me think SJ is going to take one of our contracts via waiver. It’s the only way the move makes sense in light of this information. Yzerman didn’t shop Walman, or even waive him? Just straight up shot him off with a second? That’s fireable asset management.
Demo541
Guys, I get that the deal is bad in a vacuum, but we have no idea what’s in store. This could come full circle during the draft or in free agency. Calm your tits.
d0pp3lgang3r
Maybe we’re trying to get the 14th overall but some other trade is involved? That wouldn’t really match with freeing up the cap space though. Whatever the Wings are doing I’m stoked for.
rpb539
Now all the other GMs are clowning this team…wonderful.
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Just a massive red flag. Didn’t even bother shopping him around the league. Seravalli and Friedman are both linking them to Gibson too, who has been absolute shit for 6 straight years. None of this makes ANY SENSE.
I mean.. I’m sure the majority of teams would’ve jumped at the chance to get paid a draft pick to take on a decent starting D-man on a good contract.
You can let us taste what you’re cooking anytime now, Steve.
Need to see those future considerations notes
If they would’ve taken Holl too, then I’d be all for it. Heck if they would’ve taken Fabbri, I would’ve been happy. Walman wasn’t that bad a player or contract that we have to attach a second to the deal to get rid of him and I’m by no
Means a Walman fan
My heads about to pop. I don’t know why we didn’t try to put him through waivers first.
Wonder if this was to control WHO got Walman? Like…. Steve gets to choose to not play against him by putting him in SJ? Too big brained?
This is why I suspect that there has to be something else in the works. The move on its own simply doesn’t make any sense at all. Waiving Walman would have gotten rid of him just fine without losing a 2nd round pick.
Something else is cooking, that or Yzerman had a stroke.
Everyone needs to R E L A X
Get thru the buyout period. Get thru the draft. Then see what happens in Free Agency. See where things stand come training camp.
If, by then, this was just a BAD DEAL, Stevie should rightfully be called on it. But, if something bigger and better materializes, we’ll be signing his praises. It sucks right now, but time will tell….
I’ve been an yzerman truther since day 1. This trade was a point for me where I just have lost hope. Really hope he proves me wrong but you’d have to do some serious mental gymnastics to come up with a situation where this is a good move
This just breathes a tiny bit of life into the dying ember of hope that this is one of the rare occasions where future considerations actually turns out to be something.
Hopefully future consideration is taking on the buyout of holl or copp or both.
What the fuck are we doing here? I’ve been a massive defender of Yzerman throughout this entire process, but his moves over the past two years have been horrible outside of signing Patrick Kane and his first round picks + Augustine (I’m actually fond of Kasper, Danielson, and ASP).
We keep thinking that he’s just going to galaxy brain the league here, but maybe he really is just making bad moves. This is the exact shit we chased Kenny out the door over, and while Kenny was still doing dumb shit in Edmonton that likely cost them a Cup that with better roster construction they could have easily won, Yzerman was supposed to be different. Who actually built the team in Tampa? Was it more Al Murray?
The Amateur scouting team seems alright, I’ve had my criticisms of Draper, but overall they’re not busting on 1sts, and might hit a later round pick or two, but this pro scouting team is outright garbage. What the fuck are you thinking making these moves? This isn’t 1999 anymore, everyone is using sophisticated metrics to build teams, so the “tough, smelly defenseman” also has to be good at playing fucking hockey.
We’re dumping Jake Walman off, WITH A PICK, to be in on Chychrun, who can’t even stay healthy? We trade away a promising RHD prospect for a 2nd that we just gave way, and the player we got back is a nothingburger that may play some games in GR. I like John Gibson, I think he’s a good goalie behind the right defense. We do not have a good defense. We better not be giving up significant asset to get him, pay him $6m a year, when we need money to pay Kane, or go after Guentzel, or Necas, or SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING SCORE GOALS.
Andrew Copp? Paid to be a decent 2C, is a 3-4C. Compher, paid to be a 2C, is a GOOD 3C, fair. Chiarot, without extremely favorable deployment, he’s a disaster that can’t eat big minutes, almost $5m a year. Justin Holl, 2 more years of him sitting in the press box or making the worst decision you’ve ever seen.
Glad we got rid of Nielsen, Abby, Helm, and Ericsson! We definitely didn’t just sign modern versions of these terrible contracts!
Dangle rant over.
Yzerman and the sharks know something that’s gonna happen on the draft floor
Best case scenario is we waive Holl and San Jose picks him up. Other than that I really have no clue.
The last year and a half of Stevie’s moves aren’t doing a whole lot to inspire confidence.
I love the guy and he’s one of my all-time sports heroes but he’s making some really questionable choices.
I’m all for the Yzerplan but this, this was a fucking mistake.
With the information that we currently have on the situation, this looks like one of the dumbest trades I have ever seen.
Yeah I don’t have to be a GM to be surprised. wtf
Anticipation anxiety is peaking
People need to relax.
I’m fine with criticizing Yzerman, but so far I don’t have many issues with anything he’s done. Were some of the contracts last year not the best? Absolutely. Did he actively improve the team drastically in about 2 years? Absolutely.
We missed playoffs by one game last year, a huge improvement over the year before.
We got Patty Kane to come to town.
We signed Larkin to basically retire as a Wing.
We could’ve easily won 10+ more games last season had we not had goalie woes and injuries.
This team is moving forward for the better, and this trade is so puzzling to a point that there has to be more to it. We won’t know until Friday (draft) or Monday (free agency). Until then we are all just speculating.
I’m thinking those future considerations involve the draft, and Yzerman doesn’t want to tip his hand about who he’s going for.
Yzerman didn’t just suddenly become brain dead. He knows he could have just waived Walman.
There are only two possibilities:
SJ going to eat one of our contracts.
Yzerman is braindead and needs to be fired.
Hope for one, prepare for the other. This tweet makes me think SJ is going to take one of our contracts via waiver. It’s the only way the move makes sense in light of this information. Yzerman didn’t shop Walman, or even waive him? Just straight up shot him off with a second? That’s fireable asset management.
Guys, I get that the deal is bad in a vacuum, but we have no idea what’s in store. This could come full circle during the draft or in free agency. Calm your tits.
Maybe we’re trying to get the 14th overall but some other trade is involved? That wouldn’t really match with freeing up the cap space though. Whatever the Wings are doing I’m stoked for.
Now all the other GMs are clowning this team…wonderful.
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