Steve, Jesse and Adam discuss whether or not the Toronto Maple Leafs even want to acquire defenceman Alex Pietrangelo based on what they will have to do in order to acquire him.
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So full circle to what Babs wanted? Vet players to dictate the culture foe the younger players. We had that and Dubs threw it away. Brown, Komorov, hainsey, even Kadri and others were the right guys they let go.
Is coaching not being looked at? I just don't see why major players are the key to turn the Leafs around, the constant in the Leafs is they look unmotivated or by the time they do it's too late – That's on coaching, that's the source in determining success as an NHL coach. Keefe is more of the same to most of the players it seems, so many great coaches are on the market right now. I think if Dubas wants to fix this it begins with that.
We haven’t made it out of the 1st round and this possible signing still doesn’t guarantee a 2nd round. However if we are getting creative could we bring in a Chara for a cheap deal if Boston walks away. The two of them could help get us further next year. I would support any d signing as last year crop was clearly lacking toughness and chemistry at times. The culture in the change room needs some more veteran playoff toughness
It’s only another 9 or 10 million on 1 more player dubas has his calculator and he says “we can and we will”
Pietrangelo is free assets. Johnsson hyman and kerfoot don't disappear into thin air if you sign him
It's hilarious to me that the same people who say "you can't have 40M locked up on four players!" are usually the ones saying they should trade Nylander to go for Pietrangelo… Trade the lowest of the four cap hits to add another guy with a BIGGER cap hit.
Honestly, he's a great defenceman, but he won't solve the team defence issue of the Leafs. He might actually exacerbate it by making them go even cheaper on their depth players. I agree with Adam, get two 4.5M defencemen. Spend to fill in the depth with defensively responsible players with some skill offensively (not even particularly good, just not black holes). Someone who also has some grit would be nice, too. Move Dermott, Sandin-Holl as a third pair is solid, Liljegren as a 7 is good, Marincin is an okay 8th D (name me one 8th D and I guarantee unless he's a prospect most fans hate their No. 8 guy). Get Reilly and Muzzin new partners. Both of them.
No, not at 9 million .
I'm not a fan of Holl at all. He looked very soft on two many goals in the Columbus series. I don't agree with the comment " Leafs hoarding their pics" Maybe Dubas didn't want to give them away ..maybe he wanted to make sure he was getting value back. I'm sure GM's are trying to take advantage of him…given he's new and young and he's the manager of the 3rd most wealthiest franchise in the league.
Leafs defence dosn't need to be elite, it just needs to be good enough.
When does Dubas wake up. Trade nylander kerfoot johnsson engville and freddy Andersen. . Petriangelo at 7yrs, 50 mill and not a penny more.
There won't be hockey next year or ever.
I'm not strictly for or against the Leafs signing Pietrangelo. But, on a team with Morgan Rielly and Jake Muzzin, wouldn't acquiring Pietro be potentially better than signing/trading for 2 B+ level d-men like Hamonic and DeMelo? There's only so many spots available on the back-end. Holl and Muzzin actually had some good chemistry, and though they weren't perfect, they were the team's best shutdown pairing. I think we can all agree they some combination of Liljegren, Lehtonen, Rosen, Sandin and Dermott can at least round out the 3rd pair and provide enough solid depth for if/when your top 4 end up facing injury. In fact, you can even benefit from having a Sandin or a Liljegren take the place of an injured player in the top 4 temporarily. They both have top 4 potential. They need to be tested in that role sooner or later. Then you have Lehtonen (KHL defenseman of the year), and Rosen in case your young prospects struggle with the extra responsibility.
If you get 2 players, like DeMelo and Hamonic, then you might as well trade Rasmus Sandin and/or Liljegren and/or Travis Dermott, because they may never get the chance to play bigger roles, and only 2 of Dermott, Holl, Sandin, Liljegren, Lehtonen and Rosen will even play in the top 6.
Miko Lehtonen isn't a nobody and people have seen him play. At least 3 teams were making offers when the leafs signed him. The only question is how well he transitions.
Hey do you guys think the leafs could get like t.j. brodie or Eric gustavsson from the flames? There both great defensemen
I really dont think the leafs should get Alex Pietrangelo, honestly not worth it to give William Nylander or Mitch marner away for him. Our cap space will just be over loaded it would make no difference to get rid of them. Cause if the leafs get rid of nylander there gonna pay pietrangelo more than they pay nylander, if they get rid of marner is only gonna be like a one to two million dollar difference. You know what I mean?
greedy agents are gonna destroy this sport and league
Don't do anything Toronto and you will never do anything
Trade marner for a dman around 6 to 7 million player n a 1st rounder figure it out can't move JT i
Dump Nylander.
Honestly just trade Travers, he isn't what they need. They never should have signed him and should have kept building the team. They have a number one center in matthews, let marner play with him and Nylander as the first line. Get a good second line center and some defense. Just my opinion though lol
wait…Sandin filling in for Reilly? Reilly is getting re-signed, that's when one of the big 4 gets traded.
The defencemen in this draft are terrible in the top 15. Simply DO NOT reach on a guy who shouldn't be taken at 15 because he's a dman. There are wayyyy too many good forwards that will drop to 15 because of teams in the top 10 desperately taking dmen.
Ok. Last comment on this nothing info. My leafs have enough talent and do not need another multimillion dollar contract. Trade Nylander for SUBBS and picks. Build defence from those picks. Dumbass ( Dubas).
Pietrangelo should take 9. With how high escrow going to be, he’s not going to get 9. So why take less 6 or 7 million when you won’t even make that in the first place?
Leafs trade players that compete for cups. They don't sign them. Kessel Bozak Kadri . . . Leafs need to trade Andersen he's ready to compete for a cup.
As an AZ fan, I would love to get Oel out for at least a second line forward
OMG, this maple leafs fans arrogance is so cringy and stupid…