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Who is angry that the Leafs didnt shake up the core 4 – trade MM, get a better goalie and defencemen – yet because they like pain and are idiots like me, will be watching and cheering the boys next year?



But if they sign Mitch to an extension, that's it, I am done… Whom I am kidding I will be back!

All I can think off is that Spanish guy laughing meme, and someone tells him after 8 years of just winning one round, they decided to pay 4 guys $10M + https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

by learningman33

37 Comments

  1. They shook up the defense a -great- deal o_o

    Two top-4 Dmen coming in is a maaajor overhaul.

    Core 4, sure. Goalie? Who was there out there? Not really anyone..

  2. SalaciousPanda

    Meh. Been watching for 35+ years, I’m not going to stop now. I watched from the lockout to Matthews so I’ve been through darker times. I can’t control who signs for how long and how much, I’m just a guy who grew up in Ontario who likes watching hockey and was raised with the Blue and White — It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.

  3. Why wouldn’t we be cheering for them? We are Leafs fans. Maybe some wanted more change but at the end of the day we are cheering for the team and hoping for success. That is irrelevant to the moves they make.

  4. spaceporter

    I’ll be watching as always. I think the season after this should be the best season thus far in the Matthews era, though. Presumably if Marner stays his raise will be way less than the Tavares pay cut, assuming he also stays, and we are finally seeing progressive substantial cap increases. If Woll takes a step forward this year and the next, then he is a legitimate team friendly starter. If we take that money and invest in one top 6 winger and another top tier D, that’s our best chance to go deep. I just hope they actually get some decent round 2 and 3 experience this year.

  5. Escapement_Watch

    They are a better team this year. Round 2 easy. Maybe even round 3

  6. moebuttermaker

    Holy fucking shit do we really need a five-hundred-thousandth post like this from some crybaby dumbass who hates good players?

  7. Barnibus666

    Here’s the thing: trading Marner would be a massive mistake. He’s too good, and you wouldn’t get anywhere near his value. Like when Edmonton traded Taylor Hall for the d-man (whose name I totally forget).

    In the salary cap era, and when there are no-trade clauses, it is so difficult to mix things up. Signing free agents is a crap shoot, and trades are HARD.

    I don’t know what y’all expect from management. I’m old enough to remember when they traded Russ Courtnal for John Kordic, because the coach (John Brophy) wanted tough guys. It sorta worked for a season, but Courtnal went on to show skill, and Kordic…..well, the less said the better (rip).

    We all hunger to see success. We all want a cup. We have a new coach, new systems, and a GM who is still fresh. Let’s see what this team can do.

  8. The losing has literally nothing to do with their cap hits. This fan base needs to be better at assessing actual issues.

    1. The cap will be over 100m within 2 years.
    2. We blow every asset we have on guys who walk every year.
    3. Our pro scouting is dog shit.
    4. We get destroyed in every trade.
    5. When we do have cap, we waste it immediately in tremendously embarrassing fashion.

    Yet the fan base wants Marner gone so we can watch this shitty management do a piss poor job on the trade, and then do a worse job trying to replace him in the aggregate, all because of their feelings during a covid cap that is no longer even relevant.

  9. Iliketothrowaway2456

    The thing is, if they’re going to run it back, they need to prioritize resigning Marner (as least for asset management). For his playoff errors, having him walk for nothing would hurt badly too Lmaoo

  10. Some of us have been doing this for 40 yrs donkey

  11. Monst3r_Live

    0 percent chance unless they make the second round.

  12. I’m disappointed. I don’t have much anger left to give. This franchise has been slowly sucking the passion out of me.

    That being said, GLG!

  13. Waffer_thin

    These posts make me question what a fan actually is. Just a bunch of hater whiners in this sub lately.

  14. EfficientCoconut9059

    Didn’t renew my tickets this year. Pretty sure there’s another late season fizzle ahead

  15. cloudlocke_OG

    Not angry, it was expected.

    The same regimen I’ve done the past 5 seasons will apply this coming season: skip the entire regular season, check the standings around March, then watch playoffs for however long Leafs are in it – about 2 weeks, thanks to MM, of course.

  16. carnotbicycle

    Anybody not cheering for the Leafs because they didn’t trade Marner are not Leafs fans. Sure, protest by not buying merch or tickets or whatever, but if you watch a Leafs game and cheer against them (doesn’t apply if we’re tanking of course) then you’re not a fan.

  17. thewolfshead

    I enjoy hockey so I will watch regardless. 

  18. ryand2317

    This is me every year, takes a few months to get over the pain.
    I’ll admit I’m not as excited as I used to be but I can’t help but come back.

  19. MadFlava76

    I don’t know if they will sign MM to an extension. He’s going to want more money which could put too much strain on the salary cap. Honestly I hope they can figure out a way to trade him during the season.

  20. BlueHotCoconut

    “Meh. Been watching for 35+ years, I’m not going to stop now. I watched from the lockout to Matthews so I’ve been through darker times. I can’t control who signs for how long and how much, I’m just a guy who grew up in Ontario who likes watching hockey and was raised with the Blue and White — It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.”

    Couldn’t agree more with the top comment I pasted above and that’s a shame.

    We should love this team. Not feel apathetic and like it’s just what we do with our free time. There are so many rosters I used to love.

  21. Lord-Ringo

    No doubt about it, I’m ready to be hurt again.

  22. paulster2626

    Can’t wait. Just like the last 36 years I’ve been cheering for these bums.

  23. Stolarz is a huge guy and has a lot of promise in net. and we did get better D (arguably)

    As for Marner… I think us fans take a lot for granted. It’s easy to be a couch gm, but there’s a lot behind the scenes we don’t see.

    Honestly? We’ve been watching the best Leaf hockey in the last 30 years. I’ll keep watching, you bet.

    I’m glad 34 has the C, I think the top gun is meant to lead and it will in fact create change. He’ll elevate everyone else more now that he’s “the guy”.

    EDIT: but what do I know 😂 I’m just choosing to be an optimist I guess. Being a doomer is so cliche

  24. Flatoftheblade

    As an Oilers and Leafs fan I’m happy with the Leafs’ offseason by comparison…

  25. golden_rhino

    I’m not angry. These guys are all fine players, and will be good for many years to come. However, I’m just about ready to see yet another group of players make me sad every year.

  26. Prize_Pressure8313

    So magically trading marner, who has one year left on his contracts and has a NMC, would have gotten us “better d and a better goalie”….exactly how would that work? Once Marner was available every team would offer us their first line d and first 1a goalies…just cuz?

    Give your head a shake.

  27. Low_Singer_4078

    Bro they did literally everything you said they didn’t do 🥴. Marner if you watch the team you should of known was not going anywhere with a no movement clause .

    It would be stupid to trade a guy just because. Teams would have the upper hand and gave us trash . Sure he may walk for nothing but I rather see him with a new coach for one year .

    Might make a difference .

    Defence is 1000% better . Goaltending is better .

  28. MommyMilkersPIs

    I’m incredibly disappointed that they didn’t really do anything, ever since the choke to Montreal when nothing changed then I’ve been disappointed that not much has changed. I’m excited to see how they do under a new coach (fucking finally) but if they lose in the first round AGAIN I will be living if nothing changes

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    I’m jacked up boys!

  30. Mustard-Horse71

    Love the leafs. Will always watch and cheer them on. No matter what they are exciting and no other Canadian franchise has won in over 30 years either.

  31. TorturedFanClub

    I gotta say the “running it back” mentality is getting old on both the Leafs and Jays front. I can’t get overly excited about regular season results. I guess the Leafs have never won the Atlantic and is something to strive for. Makes for a different playoff opponent most likely in round 1. Otherwise, Im all about how far can these guys take them come April.

  32. Mitch is underrated

    The really troubling part is they decaptained tavares anyhow so why not do it before FA then jettison him and spend the cap space on some combo of jeff Skinner, arvidsson, sprong, carrier, etc.

    All 80-90% WAR forwards who could be better than him this season given his advancing age

    Then with how low the Ullmark return was… yeesh

    Treliving was quite solid in terms of signings (stolarz underrated too) but in the big picture quite problematic

  33. mikesully374826

    “I watched through 2005-2017 and I’m going to stop watching because they signed a top 10 NHL player to an extension!”

    Goofy thought process, can’t believe it exists.

  34. meh_33333

    Lip stick on a pig. I’ll wake up when the playoffs start. Shannan needs to go.

    Marner also needs to go, for the same reason Sheldon had to go: sometimes you need change for the sake of change. This mix hasn’t worked. Over and over and over again. 

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