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Revisiting the 1997 Detroit Red Wings



This was a very impressive team in all areas. Get Vernon into the hall already.

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41 Comments

  1. Where would Vladimir Konstantinov rank among defenseman in the dead puck era had his career not been cut short? I think he had another 5 good seasons left in him, even with the tenacious style he played.

  2. Right around 95 was when I got into hockey and losing that final to Detroit was one of the most painful memories I have for the Flyers. But then it was a topped a few years later when the Flyers blew a 3-1 lead in the ECFs to the Devils and Scott Stevens ended Lindros' Flyers career in game 7.

    But that Detroit team was absolutely stacked with hall of famers. You look at the rosters of Detroit, Colorado and New Jersey from the late 90s through early 2000s and it's pretty amazing. Too many all stars to count.

  3. +The Hockey Guy –
    1995 Brodeur = played behind 3 hall of famers
    1997 Vernon = played behind 7 hall of famers

    1995 Brodeur = Behind a 1X Norris winner
    1997 Vernon = Behind a 7X Norris winner

    1995 Brodeur = Was the reason the trap was successful via stick handling
    1997 Vernon = Contributed 0% to the trap's success

    1995 Brodeur = .927 SV% 1.67 GAA & 3 SO
    1997 Vernon = .927 SV% 1.76 GAA & 1 SO

    1995 Brodeur = 23.2 shots per game
    1997 Vernon = 24.7 shots per game

    I find it interesting that you shower Vernon with all this praise in this video, but in the "revisiting the 1995 Devils" video you make it seem like Marty was just there for the ride. Marty did more with less than Vernon.

    I know you have some sort of personal vendetta against Marty, but c'mon, keep it consistent man. You can't be shitting on one goalie and giving praise to another, when the one you're shitting on outclassed the one you're crediting.

  4. Wings fan from Michigan, glad to see this video come up! I don't think this was a bought Stanley cup. The wings had a high payroll at 28 mill, but they were 3rd in the league. The rangers had 38 mill that year. Now the 2002 team on the other hand….. yeah that was bought lol. But I don't care I got to witness my team get a few Stanley cups haha

  5. So where does Lidstrom rank in the all time D-Man rankings? I got him number two behind Orr but I would love to see how people rank it.

  6. Darren McCarty's goal in fourth Stanley Cup final -game was a thing of beauty! Scotty Bowman said that McCarty was his favourite winger after Guy LaFleur.

  7. Hi,
    If we want to talk about the 2002 Red Wings as a team that "bought" a Stanley cup, we can do that, but I completely disagree that the 1997 98 Red Wings were bought. That is a tired old bit that doesn't stand to reason.

    Players drafted by Wings on 97 roster. =16

    Yzerman
    Fedorov
    Lidstrom
    Kozlov
    McCarty
    Lapointe
    Holmstrom
    Konstantinov
    Taylor
    Osgood
    Ward
    Kocur
    Pusher
    Dandenault
    Eriksson
    Knuble

    Players acquired by trade. =7

    Vernon traded to Detroit from Calgary for Steve Chiasson.

    Draper was acquired for $1 from Winnipeg via trade.

    Larionov was acquired via trade with San Jose for Ray Sheppard

    Shanahan was acquired via trade with Whalers for Primeau and Coffey.

    Murphy was acquired at trade deadline from Toronto for future considerations.

    Fetisov acquired via trade with New Jersey for 3rd rd pick in 1995 draft.

    Sandstrom acquired via trade with Pittsburgh for Greg Johnson.

    Brown acquired in waver draft from Pittsburgh.

    Bob Rouse was the ONLY free agent signing on entire 1997 roster. (Signed in summer of 1994) Hardly a big name signing like a Brett Hull or Hasek.

  8. Seriously? You really need to tighten up your FACTS because, for one, Vernon turned Roy into a bloody mess in that March brawl … Roy kicked Osgood's ass the following year. Second, the Wings didn't play that garbage Neutral Zone Trap, they played the left wing lock. The trap is one forechecker and four defenders behind in a square formation. The forechecker forces the puck carrier to one side and the four others move to that side and clutch and grab and hook to get a turnover.That's how untalented teams with no speed and overrated goaltenders win Cups. The lock used the left winger as a third defenseman to force dump ins and turn overs at the blue line. Most teams by then were already playing similar styles, the Wings just did it better. The Wings out-skated, out-skilled, and just simply out-classed the Flyers. Just ask Dale Hawerchuk (see game 3 hit, I think he still has a concussion to this day). Oh, and the Flyers goaltenders couldn't stop slow rolling beach balls either.

  9. Federov also played a ton of PP time on defense.  His game had so many dimensions that enhanced the team as a whole.  If only he took more pride in her personal life and didn't get snipped by Kornikova.

  10. I suffered thru the 70's & 80's as a Red Wings fan ( they were truly dreadful ) this team brought me so much joy & relief because I was born in 61 and thought i would never see a cup in my life.

  11. Funny about Murphy being booed out of Toronto. Maple leaf fans get upset at isles fan for booing tavares in his return, but have no qualms that they booed a hall of fame dman out of town, lol

  12. I would love to hear your thoughts on Dino Ciccarelli,he sould be in the Hall bigtime and an NHL award after him,the biggest pest of the year..lol..lol.. Thinking the first on the award would be Lemieux Verbeek….Your thoughts..lol…lol..😁🏒🥅

  13. I think had Detroit played the rangers, honestly the rangers would've won and mike richter or Gretzky would've won the conn smythe.

  14. Detroit did to Philly what NJ had done to them…spot on. Fun fact: the Flyers has the lead for all of 2:00 for the entire series (1-0 in game 3).

  15. Vernon did NOT get beat up by Roy. He beat the piss out of him, and bloodied him up…..

  16. Detroit native. I was in 9th grade when the Wings won. The local newspapers called them the Dead Wings for years until 6/7/97.

  17. I mean that means the argument could be made for all 3 Yzerman era cups that they bought their cups but that doesn't make the line ups any less awesome or those cups any less legit. When the cap first came in it took me a long time to accept it as a Red Wings fan lol. But hey we still managed 2008

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