Lovely person, outstanding 2009 playoff run, but absolutely shit himself the next 6 years in the playoffs. I know people talk about how we should’ve kept him over Murray, but he got benched for Tomas Vokoun in the playoffs one year. He will always be important to the team and is still probably the best goalie in Penguins history, but some talk about him in hindsight like we had prime Dominik Hasek in the net. I will even make the controversial argument that Brian Dumoulin might be more important to the Penguins all time
HanTrollo710
Luc Robitaille
Played one shortened season for the team at less than a point per game and faded completely in the playoffs.
He’s held up as this legendary Penguin for stuff he did elsewhere.
Don’t get me wrong, the man had a phenomenal career, but Pittsburgh was a pit stop where he didn’t do his best work.
Calling him an all time great Pen is like saying Iginla is one of the greatest Penguins ever
Ecruteak-vagrant
Overrated is MAF or Brooks Orpik. MAF I dont need to explain but man, looking back at older clips you can see Brooks chasing every single play. Hits in a vacuum are fine, but a trend of hitting constantly usually means you are chasing a play. You are better off with a defender who shuts plays down in advance of a hit being needed. Examples in Dumo and Pettersson who are unilaterally superior players to Orpik.
Call me a hater, it as much as the “shift is cool”, I’d much rather him or someone else jumped a pass to get the damn puck out of the zone lol.
pugfart
Janne Pesonen
bannedacctno5
What did they call him ? Big game Brass
just_saiyan24
Mike Matheson. I swear this sub has a weird love affair with a guy that took the defense out of defenseman.
bm2i
I dont know if I’m happy or sad that Gary Roberts isn’t the answer for all of these already.
scottcmu
Milan Kraft
tsmittycent
Morozov was pretty overrated. James Neal was nothing without Evgeni
TheAccountant381
Rob Scuderi – the missing piece my butt. High off the glass so the other team can just regain possession and come back for more.
ironbucket
I’ll lead by saying that Max Talbot still is one of my favorite Penguins of all time, but he may actually be the most overrated. Aside from the cup run in 2009 he really didn’t do all that much. He had maybe 3 or 4 years of average bottom 6 production for us and then he left to go to the Flyers where he started to decline. He did score 2 of the bigger goals in franchise history in the same game and arguably sparked the turnaround against the Flyers, but if you remove those two moments I don’t think many people even remember he was on the team.
genericscissors
Beau Bennett
Ok_Card9080
Think I gotta agree with Brooks Orpik.
involmasturb
James Neal
KissmySPAC
Derick Brassard. He just never fit.
Nick42284
Rob Scuderi and it’s not even close
136AngryBees
Jeff Carter
PresentGoal2970
John LeClair
wwb1990
Bring on the downvotes, but Kris Letang. Not saying he wasn’t good, but he’s not nearly the same level as malkin and Crosby and people want to act like he is. The big three originally was Malkin, Crosby, and Fluery. Letang only got thrown in once Flower was traded.
Again, not saying he wasn’t good or didn’t do good things for the team in clutch moments, but to say he’s a HoF defenseman is just not true IMHO and the other two are clearly steps above.
Fine-Designer5474
Overrated? Ziggy Palffy comes to mind. John LeClair too
Darkdart19
All these answers also show that everyone in here is under the age of 30
_yusko_
No fighting/tough guy category?
cosa_horrible
Olli Maatta. Guy was as soft as a cloud with bricks on his feet and everyone acted like he was the next coming of Bobby Orr.
marshj_00
Warren Young. Played on Mario’s wing, scored 40 goals, left and soon back in the minors.
LittleKinger
Matt Murray. Yeah I get it, he won 2 cups but has done nothing since then to carry on his legacy. MAF and the rest of the team carried them there, he was a part of the process.
Overrated.
LibraryNo2717
Eric Tangradi. So many fans were adamant that he was Sid’s ideal winger
TheCrick
Kris Beech
bm2i
Rick Berry judging by how mad people were when he was lost to waivers.
My dad would say Ron Stackhouse.
GeezOhMan1054
Dick Tarnstrom was ridiculously overrated by the fan base.
frisbee33e
Might be unpopular but, James Neal.
ryanh221
I thought for sure that said “overrated” and “Straka” and I was drafting an all caps angrily worded… you’ve quit reading. You get the point.
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I have the balls to say it:
Marc Andre Fleury
Lovely person, outstanding 2009 playoff run, but absolutely shit himself the next 6 years in the playoffs. I know people talk about how we should’ve kept him over Murray, but he got benched for Tomas Vokoun in the playoffs one year. He will always be important to the team and is still probably the best goalie in Penguins history, but some talk about him in hindsight like we had prime Dominik Hasek in the net. I will even make the controversial argument that Brian Dumoulin might be more important to the Penguins all time
Luc Robitaille
Played one shortened season for the team at less than a point per game and faded completely in the playoffs.
He’s held up as this legendary Penguin for stuff he did elsewhere.
Don’t get me wrong, the man had a phenomenal career, but Pittsburgh was a pit stop where he didn’t do his best work.
Calling him an all time great Pen is like saying Iginla is one of the greatest Penguins ever
Overrated is MAF or Brooks Orpik. MAF I dont need to explain but man, looking back at older clips you can see Brooks chasing every single play. Hits in a vacuum are fine, but a trend of hitting constantly usually means you are chasing a play. You are better off with a defender who shuts plays down in advance of a hit being needed. Examples in Dumo and Pettersson who are unilaterally superior players to Orpik.
Call me a hater, it as much as the “shift is cool”, I’d much rather him or someone else jumped a pass to get the damn puck out of the zone lol.
Janne Pesonen
What did they call him ? Big game Brass
Mike Matheson. I swear this sub has a weird love affair with a guy that took the defense out of defenseman.
I dont know if I’m happy or sad that Gary Roberts isn’t the answer for all of these already.
Milan Kraft
Morozov was pretty overrated. James Neal was nothing without Evgeni
Rob Scuderi – the missing piece my butt. High off the glass so the other team can just regain possession and come back for more.
I’ll lead by saying that Max Talbot still is one of my favorite Penguins of all time, but he may actually be the most overrated. Aside from the cup run in 2009 he really didn’t do all that much. He had maybe 3 or 4 years of average bottom 6 production for us and then he left to go to the Flyers where he started to decline. He did score 2 of the bigger goals in franchise history in the same game and arguably sparked the turnaround against the Flyers, but if you remove those two moments I don’t think many people even remember he was on the team.
Beau Bennett
Think I gotta agree with Brooks Orpik.
James Neal
Derick Brassard. He just never fit.
Rob Scuderi and it’s not even close
Jeff Carter
John LeClair
Bring on the downvotes, but Kris Letang. Not saying he wasn’t good, but he’s not nearly the same level as malkin and Crosby and people want to act like he is. The big three originally was Malkin, Crosby, and Fluery. Letang only got thrown in once Flower was traded.
Again, not saying he wasn’t good or didn’t do good things for the team in clutch moments, but to say he’s a HoF defenseman is just not true IMHO and the other two are clearly steps above.
Overrated? Ziggy Palffy comes to mind. John LeClair too
All these answers also show that everyone in here is under the age of 30
No fighting/tough guy category?
Olli Maatta. Guy was as soft as a cloud with bricks on his feet and everyone acted like he was the next coming of Bobby Orr.
Warren Young. Played on Mario’s wing, scored 40 goals, left and soon back in the minors.
Matt Murray. Yeah I get it, he won 2 cups but has done nothing since then to carry on his legacy. MAF and the rest of the team carried them there, he was a part of the process.
Overrated.
Eric Tangradi. So many fans were adamant that he was Sid’s ideal winger
Kris Beech
Rick Berry judging by how mad people were when he was lost to waivers.
My dad would say Ron Stackhouse.
Dick Tarnstrom was ridiculously overrated by the fan base.
Might be unpopular but, James Neal.
I thought for sure that said “overrated” and “Straka” and I was drafting an all caps angrily worded… you’ve quit reading. You get the point.
Matt Murray – won us a cup, fizzled afterwards
Randy Carlyle
Still wear my Straka jersey!
Fleury
Colby Armstrong
Kasperi Kapanen
Jordan Staal