Yup, agree with him entirely here. That was kind of the point. Oilers are in win-now mode. They can’t really afford to pay this type of money to players that may not grow into their deals. That money is better spent on proven talent.
We aren’t in win-now mode, and we can afford it. We have plenty of prospects and any # of them can “not work out”. The prospects are like sea turtle eggs. We’ve just added 2 more that might make it to the ocean.
fusionman51
Well no shit. We wanted to make sure they didn’t want to match it and we have the cap to let these guys grow into next deal.
JM8857
“Other breaking news…Water, wet”
-Perry White
reenactment
Everyone understands this. It wasn’t the right move for the oilers to match. And it was an aggressive move in an interesting scenario for the blues. These things can both be true. It’s funnier watching the Oil sub flip flopping non stop on what they think their opinion is on a given day. They definitely will hate us this year. I’m
MrTuesdayNight1
Yeah…so that’s the only way to obtain young RFAs. What bozo thinks a team can offer market rate and have the other team not match?
DangerDarrin
This is just total cope from Bowman/Oilers management. Instead of signing them for cheap at the beginning of the year like they should have, they went out and got shiny new toys and jerked these guys around instead of signing them for way less. Of course they over paid but STL is paying for young potential at virtually no risk
IRseriousCat-
I love Doug, but why did we need to give up Paul Fischer and an extra 3rd if this was the case? I think Holloway is well worth 2 3rds and his 2.2 million salary…. But I think the gamble to call Edmonton’s bluff and not give the extra 3rd would have been Positive EV. My only thought is that draft pick values are almost always in backwardation, and a 3rd 3+ years from now is not seen as any value….. Idk
STL_Saint00
Stan Bowman could say the sky is blue and I would say that he is probably wrong. His opinion matters 0 to me and his involvement with the Oilers have removed them from my list of teams I follow.
dixie12oz
Well yeah, that was on purpose. Otherwise Edmonton would have matched. Blues are taking a bit of a gamble, but one they can afford to take one right now. Oilers on the other hand, are not in a position to be taking gambles. That’s why it was a good move.
ShamPain413
Past performance. In very limited roles.
Not necessarily future performance in much bigger roles. They could be bargains for us.
seannifer
True but it’s worth the risk for us.
yodazer
Ya, that’s the point. The world knows those two haven’t “earned” those contracts yet. The hockey community knows this, the blues know this, the oilers know. It’s more about them possibly becoming large pieces of a puzzle that wins. Prospects are kinda like playing darts in the dark. You have an idea of where the board is, but the more throws you take, the more chance you have of hitting a bullseye
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Yup, agree with him entirely here. That was kind of the point. Oilers are in win-now mode. They can’t really afford to pay this type of money to players that may not grow into their deals. That money is better spent on proven talent.
We aren’t in win-now mode, and we can afford it. We have plenty of prospects and any # of them can “not work out”. The prospects are like sea turtle eggs. We’ve just added 2 more that might make it to the ocean.
Well no shit. We wanted to make sure they didn’t want to match it and we have the cap to let these guys grow into next deal.
“Other breaking news…Water, wet”
-Perry White
Everyone understands this. It wasn’t the right move for the oilers to match. And it was an aggressive move in an interesting scenario for the blues. These things can both be true. It’s funnier watching the Oil sub flip flopping non stop on what they think their opinion is on a given day. They definitely will hate us this year. I’m
Yeah…so that’s the only way to obtain young RFAs. What bozo thinks a team can offer market rate and have the other team not match?
This is just total cope from Bowman/Oilers management. Instead of signing them for cheap at the beginning of the year like they should have, they went out and got shiny new toys and jerked these guys around instead of signing them for way less. Of course they over paid but STL is paying for young potential at virtually no risk
I love Doug, but why did we need to give up Paul Fischer and an extra 3rd if this was the case? I think Holloway is well worth 2 3rds and his 2.2 million salary…. But I think the gamble to call Edmonton’s bluff and not give the extra 3rd would have been Positive EV. My only thought is that draft pick values are almost always in backwardation, and a 3rd 3+ years from now is not seen as any value….. Idk
Stan Bowman could say the sky is blue and I would say that he is probably wrong. His opinion matters 0 to me and his involvement with the Oilers have removed them from my list of teams I follow.
Well yeah, that was on purpose. Otherwise Edmonton would have matched. Blues are taking a bit of a gamble, but one they can afford to take one right now. Oilers on the other hand, are not in a position to be taking gambles. That’s why it was a good move.
Past performance. In very limited roles.
Not necessarily future performance in much bigger roles. They could be bargains for us.
True but it’s worth the risk for us.
Ya, that’s the point. The world knows those two haven’t “earned” those contracts yet. The hockey community knows this, the blues know this, the oilers know. It’s more about them possibly becoming large pieces of a puzzle that wins. Prospects are kinda like playing darts in the dark. You have an idea of where the board is, but the more throws you take, the more chance you have of hitting a bullseye