The one part that jumped out at me “There is a realisation from the organization’s standpoint that Marner is going to be paid again, and he’s going to get paid well,” Dreger stated.
With this said, Marner is already making $10.903 million cap hit this season, let’s call it $11 million.
Does anyone think he’s actually going to get a significant raise from the leafs? Maybe a slight increase by a million but I’d be hard pressed to give him more than $12 million per year.
Thoughts?
by luckylukiec
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I’m hesitant to trust anything Dreger says about Marner
He has done nothing to earn more then Nylander, who was arguably playing above his value these last few years.
Dreger and campaigning for Marner’s bag, name a more iconic duo.
Seriously though, he’s going to get paid more than he is right now. I’m not going to be shocked he stays here with John’s contract ending. This is going to be non stop all year though and I’m already tired of hearing about it.
You realize thet Dreger is Marner’s mouth piece right? that said if they pay him any more than 10.8 they’re fucking nuts.
Edit: 10.8 and no letter
Marners agent likes to take his guys to FA. There’s a lot of shit talk about Marner from his regular and post season performance from last year. I expect Mitch is going to have an unbelievable season this year and he’ll still get hate from the fan base, the tune will just change to “oh now that he wants more money, he tries” guy can’t win and is definitely just the current whipping boy
He’s not getting Matthews money. At best he’ll get what Nylander got.
He can take 12.5M on Columbus.
Wipe your chin off before you “stated this Dreger?” Look, Mitch is a great player, deserves to get his bag, but the public negotiating is really toxic for an already sociopathic fan base. Dreger is obviously a tainted source and his opinion is worth the same as the toilet paper I flushed this morning…
Can’t spend this much cap on someone who vanishes after game 4, let him walk. Spend it on literally anyone else.
“I want Draisaitl money”
– Mitch Marner
This sub is whack. Marner’s going to get $12-13.5M/y on a max length contract, whether from the Leafs or elsewhere. A top-scoring winger who is also a top penalty killer, in his prime years, with a rising salary cap, is gonna get paid. Is Draisaitl the best player in the NHL? Of course not, but the economics are changing and he got paid. Marner will get paid too.
But yes, never believe a word from Dreger – I’ve never forgiven him for shamelessly carrying management water during the lockout.
Put him in the gulag until he comes out with a trade list
He’s not a bad player, def needs better pr training.
Imagine his salary being put to use on a #1 d man. We can certainly afford to give away some offence to offset our historically average to poor back end. We def put all our eggs in one basket and have failed repeatedly. Why do the exact same thing again?
It doesn’t matter if Marner does well for another team. As long as we can improve by filling other holes on the roster.
I have confidence in nylander and other players stepping up to fill in the creative void.
I wouldn’t give him more than 11m. He can leave. He fleeced us on the last deal, so he wasn’t underpaid at any point in his last contract.
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No thanks. Dumbest move ever if they are going to pay him 12 million a year bc he will ask for a raise.
I’ve been mariners biggest fan, through the good and the bad. But he cannot get a big raise here. He is already overpaid for what his brings to the table.
In a just world he’d resign for his current salary at 8 years and apologize for it.
I’d rather the 11m in cap space next year tbh
He has simply lived up to his contract, even if barely. Marner has done nothing to earn a bigger AAV than he currently has.
If he wants to get paid again, let the man walk
You can’t pay somebody 12 million when he literally cannot shoot the puck. I am so tired of seeing the other teams penalty kill sag off of this guy knowing he shoots the puck like a peewee player and instead overload on Matthews. It’s always worse and more evident come playoff time also cuz , well you are actually facing good teams who are putting in 100% effort
If he agrees to not have a No Movement Clause, give him the money. Worry about the rest later. At worst he is a good trade chip long term. Gotta avoid giving everyone those NMC.
Failed to trade him, so naturally the next step is to speculate on how much we’re going to pay him on his next contract I guess
He’s going to get a raise (whether it’s with the Leafs or not), but I don’t think we even entertain contract talks until we see how this year goes.
Can someone educate me on why Darren Dreger can’t be trusted, especially with Mitch Marner news ?
I’d like to see him directly affect a critical goal in an elimination game of the playoffs. And not in the way he did on Pastrnak’s this past year
With Johnny coming off the books, extending Mitch isn’t the worst thing you can do. But he needs to show more in the big moments, not wilt under the pressure.
I hope he can, because it will mean success for the Leafs. But if all I have to go on is the track record, it ain’t looking promising.
Marner has more PPG than Nylander does, both in the regular season and in the playoffs. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, we will regret letting him walk, especially if the difference between what we think is acceptable and what he wants is <$1-1.5M/season.
And to all of you that say his regular season PPG means nothing: you need to actually win games in the regular season to make it to the playoffs. I see a lot of you forget that. I’m not saying Marner is going to be the difference between making and not making the playoffs, but to act like his regular season production means nothing is completely wrong.
If we say no to Marner, we can easily say yes to McDavid down the road.
I’d give him the same deal as Nylander and not a penny more. He might put up more raw points, but Willy is the better goal scorer and steps up in big moments while Mitch shies away.
My thoughts are that Dreger is a well-known mouthpiece for the Marner camp, so nothing he says matters.
Honestly that’s fine wait till the season ends and decide then
If he does well extend him if he doesn’t get a few depth guys and wish him well
We have a natural off-ramp here
The other question is if the leafs offer him 8x 11, what NHL team out there is going to match that and then beat it by a significant margin? Is some team really out there saying they’ll go 7x 13? I’d be skeptical
I think Marner gets 12M. Sort of the middle point between Nylander and Matthews contract.
Great news. Hope it stays that way.
Going into the final year of a contract without an extension is a gamble. By playing this year without a long term deal he’s saying I’m willing to risk getting injured or poor production under a new coach because I believe that will secure the maximum financial return.
If he were going to sign a team friendly deal he would have done it already. One way or another someone will overpay Marner next summer.
the Max i’d give Marner is 11.5, give him the same deal as Nylander. If he doesn’t take that he can walk
This wouldn’t be a conversation if this core had managed to win more than 1 playoff series.
The structure of 4 high end guys making all this cash hasn’t panned out and right now both jt (rightly so due to age) and marner, are the odd men out.
If they manage to go on a deep run this year sure explore the option of signing marner and jt (to a much smaller number and years). If not use that cap space to flesh out the roster.
No fucking shit😂. Bro will be gone by the end of the season.
we can’t afford him after giving Will the sun and the moon, it’s like Brad learned nothing from previous management’s mistakes. that cap space needs to go toward a middle 6 center and another *real* top 4 dman next offseason. i’m still nowhere near convinced by our blueline despite signing 35 year old chris tanev and overpaying for oel.
If the leafs want mcDavid they cant sign Marner. Will be interesting.