LUCAS RAYMOND IS STAYING IN HOCKEYTOWN FOR 8 MORE YEARS!
Tune into this MASSIVE episode (which features Max Bultman of The Athletic Detroit, new contributor to the Winged Wheel Podcast) as we discuss the extremely well-timed news of Lucas Raymond’s 8 year, $8,075,000 AAV contract extension that Steve Yzerman locked in: overall value, what this means for Raymond’s future, how he compares to Seth Jarvis and Tim Stutzle, how this works for the Detroit Red Wings salary cap now and in the future, expectations for Raymond alongside Larkin, Patrick Kane, Alex DeBrincat, Tarasenko, Compher, & others, & SO much more (3:30).
We then discuss Jonatan Berggren’s 1 year contract at $825k, what he needs to do to crack Derek Lalonde’s Red Wings roster, comparisons to Sprong, & more (25:50).
Next, the elephant in the room: what does this mean for Moritz Seider’s contract? Is it soon to follow? Will he take up all (or more) of Detroit’s remaining cap space, surpass Larkin, or sign in time to make training camp in Traverse City? (35:25)
Finally, Max Bultman provides and update from the Prospects Tournament, including thoughts on Nate Danielson, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, Finnie, & plenty more (52:45) before we take your questions & comments in our Overtime segment (1:04:30) – enjoy the show!
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Max’s Articles: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5767668/2024/09/16/red-wings-prospect-tournament-michael-brandsegg-nygard/
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5579464/2024/09/16/red-wings-lucas-raymond-contract-extension/
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35 Comments
Pulling the seniority card, lol!
A great deal. Thought Raymond would get 8.3-8.4
Welcome Max Bultman to "The Dub Dub Club." "Good in the Room."❤
I hope Mo does a team discount to give them the chance to win the cup
User from Rome, Italy here and long time Red Wings fan! Just subscribed today: love your podcast guys and love to have Raymond signed to a long term, fair aav contract. Let's go Red Wings!!!
In the next 4 years a lot of good players are retired. So the RW are in good position
I live in norway and am playing beer league on an nhl-size rink. So there are many of those here.
Detroit has shown in the past what really matters as a team. For example, "The Russian Five", top players who all scored 25-30 goals and dominated the game and how much I liked these players, but none of them were superstars, but together they were very valuable stars who outplayed their opponents. Today that would be Debrincat, Larkin, Raymond, Seider and Edvinsson. They are stars but not superstars
You don't always need superstars like Mc David, Mac Kinnon, Methew,…etc. It's no guarantee of a cup win, some haven't even won the cup yet!
Then we were lucky with late draft picks like in the past with Zetterberg, Daysuk, Franzen and nowadays Mazur, Lombardi, Söderblom could be similarly lucky finds (we'll see)
Hi Red Wings fans, i am not watching NA hockey much thanks to time differences. I wonder how did Rychlovský look so far? Do you think there is chance he makes NHL in future? Everybody here is talking about Kulich, Kulich, Kulich and no mention of Rychlovský.
Max is boring as hell. Imho.
YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYE
You say gms are smart enough to not make a signing based on a two month span, and I say Johan Franzen. You're right that most gms are smart enough. Lol
LGRW 🐙 🐙 🐙
Ok, just Seider left! Thanks for the podcast boys! See you at camp this weekend Max!
Brad is great but also the king of moving goalposts. 10 years JFC
Love the 8 years.
My only concern with seider is how long can his body take the amount of abuse it is getting at this pace? If he gets 8.5+ for 8 years and 2 years from now he is on LTIR it screws the team
If Seider goes long term I'll say 8×8.5
I hope Seider signs for 8.69 😎
Berggren's most important skill is not goal scoring. That is just what you see if you don't pay enough attention. Having paid close attention to his game these past 3-4 years, his primary strength is that he generates momentum by making his team mates a bigger threat and by messing with opposition defense. He's a shit stirrer, both in scrums as well as by how he plays. The defensive liability aspect is also overblown. He's as much a liability as Raymond. If possibly even less. There is also the fact that he produces when it counts. Last playoff in GR was a joy to see.
He got screwed over last season and now has to pay the price through this years' contract as he is 'unproven'. At no fault of his own.
I would love to see him consistently in a line-up with some high caliber players to allow him to get used to his line mates. Not this yo-yo, whiplash style experience he's had to endure these past couple of years.
Go Bergy!!! Kick ass this year and show em what you're capable of!
P.S – Love the podcast and appreciate the well rounded and informative entertainment you guys provide.
Don't cheap out on your young stars and get extra money from the new cap numbers and waive bottom of the lineup to bring up some of the vaunted youngsters. Seems pretty simple but SY has a consistent aversion to bringing up untested kids. Devil's advocate: How are they gonna be tested if you don't bring them up?
Lets go wings!!!
Seider will suck up every last penny of the cap space, else maybe they sign him one year and then go long term next year when they have day one cap space.
Let's pump the brakes on praising Yzerman. This team doesn't have a window.
Welcome Max 🔥🫱🏽🫲🏼
Even Max doesn't understand the Jarvis contract 🤦
These guys are really drinking the Kool-aid thinking Raymond was a value contract. Dude is being overpaid by a million easy
I think it's kinda crazy to think Yzerman won't be there in 5 years even if they don't make the playoffs over the next two years. I think he's got an extremely long leash with what Yzerman was left.
they have playoff style players, but they'll need to add via trades or ufa to round out a contender.
A four man podcast just feels right
My prediction is MBN will blow the house down and make the team , he is a Draisitle acvisiton . He is what the Wings have missed the last 8-9 years . I cant emphecsis how much i love this guy I had no clue about him before . But what ive seen is exceptionaly impressive , He is a hound out there and i love it . Danielson is always there to i would love to see those tow together with Bergren That or Rasmussen That would be a killer line or a boster line.
I forgot to say , Redwings will make the playoffs , win the first round and lose it in the second round to either NY Rangers or NY devils they wont loose to Toronto or Ottawa
Imagine if we popped another kid up as ROTY 😂
Not sure what game Max was watching but second game Danielson looked a little underwhelming offensively.
Though I don't think Danilson starts the season in Detroit I would love to see him centering Tarasenko and Kane. I think Compher benefits moving down to the 3C and with Copp and Berggren. But what to do with Rasmussen. There finally moving into the phase where they're facing tough decisions. Good stuff