I mean, pretty spot on with what I expect, although I do think the goaltending will be better
Fudge_Comprehensive
They’re correct in saying our defense needs to improve. However, ESPNs coverage and reporting on hockey is so pathetic that I will never buy what they’re selling regarding on ice matters.
Resident_Rise5915
They do have to prove themselves defensively so it’s fair take.
Skower101
Good thing I can’t read
markcubin
Talbot is an upgrade over Reimer and I will not be convinced otherwise
MidnightNo1766
ESPN’s “opinions” are trash, across the board.
nem704
IMO one of two things happen
The Wings stay bad defensively and end up as a bottom-10 team
The Wings improve defensively and as a result get better goaltending and end up a playoff team
Legal-War5595
Exactly. Defense was a lot bigger problem than goaltending last season. Fans who havent been around hockey long enough do not see the defensive mistakes that lead to a high danger goal opportunity for the opposing team. If Wings can defend better, they will clinch a playoff spot I am sure!
Wakattack00
Other than the Madden quote that makes no sense for goaltenders, I think it’s a fairly reasonable take. The Wings over-achieved last season and now have a certain expectation attached to them from within the org. and outside of it. I expect the Wings will be in a very similar position as last season but hopefully we can get over the hump.
oceanic8675
Okie
detroitttiorted
This is about as bold as me saying I’m going to have a couple beers tomorrow night
Mergan_Freiman
This gives “I’ve watched two games in March ’24”
Sekshual_Tyranosauce
Summed up: Their defense must improve if they are to be a legit play off team.
I don’t think that is controversial.
GardinerExpressway
Is this bold in the slightest? Team that’s missed the playoffs and had terrible defense for years is gonna miss again and have terrible defense again. I’d say the opposite opinion is bolder
TheBimpo
I’m definitely worried about defense and goaltending.
Sjf715
I mean, I don’t think any of this is really a knock. If you pay attention it’s roughly what is expected. Although we absolutely can make the playoffs, it’s likely going to be a year where we push 3+ rookies into the league and try to find a goalie we can move forward with. That’s going to take some adjustments. I think this season is going to be super important because it’s going to set the stage for next season. If we can get to a place where we know, reasonably at least, who we have in at least 3 prospects and they’re NHL ready players I think it’s a baseline win. Playoffs are what we all want, but I just have to temper my expectations.
rastafarian_eggplant
Yes that is true for the qb position, john madden. But in today’s nhl, you need 2 capable goalies so that analogy is pretty poor. Hopefully the best 2 goalies emerge and are chosen, and the team can be successful there.
dsled
That’s not a bold prediction
x_VanHessian_x
ESPN historically never has liked the Red Wings. Trash bag take.
Basic_Ask1885
Shooting percentage will probably regress but defense should improve, and I think national media is sleeping on that a little
HappyInstruction3678
I don’t understand how this is bold. They’re saying the same thing as everyone else: Detroit is a bubble playoffs team.
Sorry_Return4889
Saw ESPN and immediately disregarded
ThreeDog_GNR
ESPNs bold prediction: They might be worse, they may get better. Heck, they may be the same.
Biscuit_In_Basket
Good god damn ESPN will shoehorn football into anything . . . It doesn’t even make sense, QB’s and Goalies are not remotely comparable.
One is what your entire offense runs through. The other tries to get hit with pucks.
RuthlesslyEmpathetic
!remindme 6 months
kdfsjljklgjfg
I don’t disagree with it as a take necessarily, it’s that our D is heavily dependent on the ascension of Edvinsson/Johansson for improvement over last season, and growth of young players is by no means a sure thing.
It’s a pessimistic take, but I’m not sure it’s incorrect
Nick_Waite
I agree with the fact that shooting percentage is likely to go down, but Edvinsson should also improve the whole defensive group/taking some load off of Seider. I see the wings right around where they were last year points wise
robjertrichards
that john madden quote doesn’t even make sense in football terms… you literally need at least two good NHL goalies to be a playoff team unless you have one of the top 5 in the league.
HeftyIncident7003
What is the bold prediction? I missed it.
elchapjoe
Our growth will be internal, we have a full year of Patrick Kane, and we have a better bottom 6 of defensive forwards. Last year was a huge teaching moment and I don’t think this group will be taking any games off.
Low-Geologist-4871
Edvinsson and Johansson are the upgrades we need
meatballcake87
If Edvinsson can play the way he did at the end of the season then we’ll make the playoffs. He had pretty good chemistry with Petry and that’s the only time Petry has looked decent in a Wings sweater. Chiarot looked ok last year, obviously not worth the contract he got but he was pulling his weight. I think Gustafsson and Maatta will but a solid 3rd pair
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I don’t think much of this actually
I think that’s a rats ass of an excuse
I mean, pretty spot on with what I expect, although I do think the goaltending will be better
They’re correct in saying our defense needs to improve. However, ESPNs coverage and reporting on hockey is so pathetic that I will never buy what they’re selling regarding on ice matters.
They do have to prove themselves defensively so it’s fair take.
Good thing I can’t read
Talbot is an upgrade over Reimer and I will not be convinced otherwise
ESPN’s “opinions” are trash, across the board.
IMO one of two things happen
The Wings stay bad defensively and end up as a bottom-10 team
The Wings improve defensively and as a result get better goaltending and end up a playoff team
Exactly. Defense was a lot bigger problem than goaltending last season. Fans who havent been around hockey long enough do not see the defensive mistakes that lead to a high danger goal opportunity for the opposing team. If Wings can defend better, they will clinch a playoff spot I am sure!
Other than the Madden quote that makes no sense for goaltenders, I think it’s a fairly reasonable take. The Wings over-achieved last season and now have a certain expectation attached to them from within the org. and outside of it. I expect the Wings will be in a very similar position as last season but hopefully we can get over the hump.
Okie
This is about as bold as me saying I’m going to have a couple beers tomorrow night
This gives “I’ve watched two games in March ’24”
Summed up: Their defense must improve if they are to be a legit play off team.
I don’t think that is controversial.
Is this bold in the slightest? Team that’s missed the playoffs and had terrible defense for years is gonna miss again and have terrible defense again. I’d say the opposite opinion is bolder
I’m definitely worried about defense and goaltending.
I mean, I don’t think any of this is really a knock. If you pay attention it’s roughly what is expected. Although we absolutely can make the playoffs, it’s likely going to be a year where we push 3+ rookies into the league and try to find a goalie we can move forward with. That’s going to take some adjustments. I think this season is going to be super important because it’s going to set the stage for next season. If we can get to a place where we know, reasonably at least, who we have in at least 3 prospects and they’re NHL ready players I think it’s a baseline win. Playoffs are what we all want, but I just have to temper my expectations.
Yes that is true for the qb position, john madden. But in today’s nhl, you need 2 capable goalies so that analogy is pretty poor. Hopefully the best 2 goalies emerge and are chosen, and the team can be successful there.
That’s not a bold prediction
ESPN historically never has liked the Red Wings. Trash bag take.
Shooting percentage will probably regress but defense should improve, and I think national media is sleeping on that a little
I don’t understand how this is bold. They’re saying the same thing as everyone else: Detroit is a bubble playoffs team.
Saw ESPN and immediately disregarded
ESPNs bold prediction: They might be worse, they may get better. Heck, they may be the same.
Good god damn ESPN will shoehorn football into anything . . . It doesn’t even make sense, QB’s and Goalies are not remotely comparable.
One is what your entire offense runs through. The other tries to get hit with pucks.
!remindme 6 months
I don’t disagree with it as a take necessarily, it’s that our D is heavily dependent on the ascension of Edvinsson/Johansson for improvement over last season, and growth of young players is by no means a sure thing.
It’s a pessimistic take, but I’m not sure it’s incorrect
I agree with the fact that shooting percentage is likely to go down, but Edvinsson should also improve the whole defensive group/taking some load off of Seider. I see the wings right around where they were last year points wise
that john madden quote doesn’t even make sense in football terms… you literally need at least two good NHL goalies to be a playoff team unless you have one of the top 5 in the league.
What is the bold prediction? I missed it.
Our growth will be internal, we have a full year of Patrick Kane, and we have a better bottom 6 of defensive forwards. Last year was a huge teaching moment and I don’t think this group will be taking any games off.
Edvinsson and Johansson are the upgrades we need
If Edvinsson can play the way he did at the end of the season then we’ll make the playoffs. He had pretty good chemistry with Petry and that’s the only time Petry has looked decent in a Wings sweater. Chiarot looked ok last year, obviously not worth the contract he got but he was pulling his weight. I think Gustafsson and Maatta will but a solid 3rd pair
Suck my whole ass, ESPN. We’re going 98-0.