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Yeah, we’ve gotta talk about the Bo Horvat / Boston Bruins trade rumours, and whether or not prospect Fabian Lysell + could be a suitable return for the Vancouver Canucks.
Article: https://bostonhockeynow.com/2023/01/18/nhl-trade-source-bo-horvat-talks-between-bruins-and-canucks-pick-up/
This video is taking place after the 2022 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2022 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2022 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) Montreal Canadiens, Juraj Slafkovsky
2nd) New Jersey Devils, Simon Nemec
3rd) Arizona Coyotes, Logan Cooley
4th) Seattle Kraken, Shane Wright
5th) Philadelphia Flyers, Cutter Gauthier
6th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Chicago Blackhawks), David Jiricek
7th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Ottawa Senators), Kevin Korchinski
8th) Detroit Red Wings, Marco Kasper
9th) Buffalo Sabres, Matthew Savoie
10th) Anaheim Ducks, Pavel Mintyukov
11th) Arizona Coyotes (from San Jose Sharks), Conor Geekie
12th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Denton Mateychuk
13th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Frank Nazar
14th) Winnipeg Jets, Rutger McGroarty
15th) Vancouver Canucks, Jonathan Lekkerimaki
16th) Buffalo Sabres (Vegas Golden Knights), Noah Ostlund
17th) Nashville Predators, Joakim Kemell
18th) Dallas Stars, Lian Bichsel
19th) Minnesota Wild (from LA Kings), Liam Ohgren
20th) Washington Capitals, Ivan Miroshnichenko
21st) Pittsburgh Penguins, Owen Pickering
22nd) Anaheim Ducks (from Boston Bruins), Nathan Gaucher
23rd) St. Louis Blues, Jimmy Snuggerud
24th) Minnesota Wild, Danila Yurov
25th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Sam Rinzel
26th) Montreal Canadiens (from Calgary Flames), Filip Mesar
27th) San Jose Sharks (from Carolina Hurricanes via Arizona Coyotes and Montreal Canadiens), Filip Bystedt
28th) Buffalo Sabres (from Florida Panthers), Jiri Kulich
29th) Arizona Coyotes (from Edmonton Oilers), Maveric Lamoureux
30th) Winnipeg Jets (from New York Rangers), Brad Lambert
31st) Tampa Bay Lightning, Isaac Howard
32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Colorado Avalanche via Arizona Coyotes), Reid Schaefer
This video is also taking place after 2022 NHL Season, and after the 2022 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Colorado Avalanche defeated the Tampa Bay Lightning in the Finals.
Fabian Lysell was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2021 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2021 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The first round of the draft went as follows:
1st) Buffalo Sabres, Owen Power
2nd) Seattle Kraken, Matty Beniers
3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Mason McTavish
4th) New Jersey Devils, Luke Hughes
5th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Kent Johnson
6th) Detroit Red Wings, Simon Edvinsson
7th) San Jose Sharks, William Eklund
8th) Los Angeles Kings, Brandt Clarke
9th) Arizona Coyotes (from Vancouver Canucks), Dylan Guenther
10th) Ottawa Senators, Tyler Boucher
11th) Arizona Coyotes, FORFEITED
12th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Sillinger
13th) Calgary Flames, Matthew Coronato
14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Philadelphia Flyers), Isak Rosén
15th) Detroit Red Wings (from Dallas Stars), Sebastian Cossa
16th) New York Rangers, Brennan Othmann
17th) St. Louis Blues, Zachary Bolduc
18th) Winnipeg Jets, Chaz Lucius
19th) Nashville Predators, Fedor Svechkov
20th) Minnesota Wild (from Edmonton Oilers), Jesper Wallstedt
21st) Boston Bruins, Fabian Lysell
22nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Minnesota Wild), Xavier Bourgault
23rd) Dallas Stars (from Washington Capitals via Detroit Red Wings), Wyatt Johnson
24th) Florida Panthers, Mackie Samoskevich
25th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Corson Ceulemans
26th) Minnesota Wild (from Pittsburgh Penguins), Carson Lambos
27th) Nashville Predators (from Carolina Hurricanes), Zachary L’Heureux
28th) Colorado Avalanche, Oskar Olausson
29th) New Jersey Devils (from New York Islanders), Chase Stillman
30th) Vegas Golden Knights, Zach Dean
31st) Montreal Canadiens, Logan Mailloux
32nd) Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Columbus Blue Jackets), Nolan Allan
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29 Comments
Bruh two 1st round picks AND Lysell is just ridiculous. I'd much rather play Lysell over Horvat and keep the two picks
I hope we can get players like Thomas Harley, Stankoven, Jack Drury or Bowen Byram (and a pick) for Bo
Picks can be used more than just for drafting. Could be useful to use picks to target specific prospects or players from other teams. Or even used to off-load anchor contracts for cap flexibility.
Only way I send horvat to Boston, oel must go to….
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With how tight all of these cap strapped teams are I don't see a move happening without $ going both ways. Also Lysell and the ~32nd overall pick in this draft comes nowhere near what I would expect as a return for Horvat. Now in saying that, how surprised would you be if it ended up going down as "Lysell, DeBrusk, 1st Rd 2023" knowing how things go in Vancouver.
FYI, Rangers offered 1st rounder, Chytil and a prospect for Miller last season, but Nucks stupidly declined cause they wanted this other guy (in place of that prospect or in place of Chytil…can't remember). Rangers said no.
Just correcting you because Nucks were offered a lot last season for Miller. It's just that Jim R. or Alvin became downright stupid by getting too greedy and then became brain damaged by signing Miller to that long horrible contract when they could've gotten a haul for Miller and managed their current cap situation had they accepted that trade last season. They need to not be as greedy this time around and actually get a haul for Horvat.
Why spend that much for horvat when you could possibly sign him in the offseason
Lysell is in the tier of Hoglander maybe Podzkolzin on the higher end. Actually they are both worth more than him as they have nHL experience. Ask yourself if that is enough to get Bo Horvat. And how is Lysell being on the Vancouver Giants a plus other than the fact that Canucks brass can see him play?
If I was looking at Boston,I would be targeting Brandon Carlo and a first.Carlo is a 6 5 big right shot d man.Thats who I would be after
WHEN have we EVER done well trading with Boston??
this has NOT happened. Misleading clickbait. If I could do it, I would suspend your accunt
Geez Horvat and Marchand on the same team would be diabolical for the rest of the league
As a bruins fan, this would make me even happier
I love Bruins. My other favorite team. sorry guys I'm not from Vancouver but was an Oakland Seals fan until they folded so I picked VC cuz they are not LA.
imagine Canucks trade Horvat for Lysell + b-tier prospect + 2nd and then resign him in the offseason for a discount hahaha.
I think a better deal would be for the Canucks to send him to the AVs for two young good pieces… Byram, Newhook for Horvat + Schenn. Colorado pays a hefty price but wins their second cup back to back. Easy pill to swallow when you've got two cups
Rise of Dark Bo
I can't wait for this season to be over. I hate it. We're going to place low but not low enough to land a top 3 pick. We're probably going to lose Bo, and while it would be a hilarious kick in the butt from the hockey Gods to have him win a cup in Boston of all cities, the most we can hope for is a decent trade return.
i guess I can understand the dislike for Boston kind of like SF 49ers getting beat by Dallas Cowboys. some teams you just hate out of tribalism which is understandable. Bruins are perhaps the most consistent team year to year and I liked them because I saw Bobby Orr play against Oakland and my name also starts with a B.
I'd be holding out for Carlo as piece #1, then either Lysell or a 1st round pick. Thing is the 1st rounder will be late and Canucks aren't exactly known for being shrewd drafters. I'd also try and get either Myers or OEL going back. With either of them you'll have to eat salary, as much as $5 mill for OEL, but that's much better than buying him out. If you need to send either Garland or Jack Rathbone back as a sweetner, they are both local (MA) boys and don't seem to be in the Canucks plans. Carlo would be a top pairing D with Hughes for years to come.
It’s so obvious where he’s going. Boston, Colorado, Seattle, and Carolina.
If you’re trading Horvat, I’m not convinced Boston will get you the best return
Really doesn't make any sense as the Bruins will not give up what the Canucks are going to want, Carlo, Lysell, and a first to make up for the second they gave to the Hawks for 1.3million in cap space (not a good move in my books). Most likely the rental will be going to Colorado, or Seattle and on July 1 the Bruins will probably be the top contender for Bo as Bergeron will probably retire. If the Bruins can suck Vancouver into giving up Bo for less than that, they will take it. Very unlikely come deadline time there will be much better offers.
Mock trade:
To BOS: Bo Horvat (50% retained)
Luke Schenn
To VAN: 2023 1st rd
Fabian Lysell
Craig Smith
Edit: Draft simulation results for VAN:
1st rd:
3rd: Matvei Michkov or Leo Carlsson
32nd: Samuel Honzek (BOS)
won't be traded to the Bruins. Not enough return.
On pace 45 82 points need more then lysell
Has any player ever got traded but then resigns with their former team right after the season? LOL.
They need to be looking elsewhere Boston is not a good trading partner, they will do much better dealing horvat to the Kraken (highly unlikely) but you never know especially and I know this is hypothetical Shane Wright would be involved, even Detroit would be a way better trading partner than Boston let's hope the Canucks management doesn't screw the pooch on this one
Boston 1st round pick might be enough for Towes. Because no one else will give a first rounder for Towes. HOR will get more from another team that Boston dont have.