I don’t care what the announcers or anyone say. That was a kicking motion.
BillytheBrassBall
I wasn’t watching the game, and from the comments I dodged a bullet on the announcers. Anyone got a vid of the kick that cost us the game?
Stabres
Why can’t we have nice things….
How can you overturn that freaking call, unbelievable.
Tactial_snail
how the fuck is lifting your skate off the ice, then moving your leg in the direction of the net, not a kicking motion?
iwantthatpurpledrank
According to rule 78.5 (i) in the NHL rulebook, goals will be disallowed “when the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick.”
3rdEyeJoker
I don’t even blame the boys, rough back to back but holy shit these refs made me do fucking mad some of the shit they were fucking up tonight
GuybrushThreepwood94
The Fasching goal absolutely should not have counted. Fucking ridiculous to have a game decided with a goal like that.
Skyline_BNR34
Lost because of a kicked in goal.
trippyEDM
I’ll never listen to an ESPN game again. Not kidding I’ll just listen to music. I’m done with their garbage product.
AnUnwillingSponge
Man I know they are young but I really just wanted to get in this year… and to lose on that kick…
sobuffalo
>distinct kicking motion
Thought it was pretty clear but whatever.
JHeps
“After reviewing the play Buffalo go fuck yourelves”
Albi77
That call fucked us so badly… The rule clearly states: *Rule 78.5(I) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.*
Mohyyc
Fucking bullshit! We got jobbed. That goal was a clear kick or kicking motion. Biggest game we’ve had in a decade and it’s decided by the NHL. Complete bullshit.
BananaInPajama7
I thought playoffs were 100% out of the question before the season began. Then they had to make me a believer just to tear me down in march lol.
At least this year I’m confident in saying we’ll actually be good next year and hopefully won’t have all these stupid little issues holding us back
UncleOrton
Well that night was brutal for our playoff chances with Pittsburgh coming back too. We’ll need to go on a hot streak which may be tough without Tuch.
Kanine_tv
Toronto screwing over Buffalo any chance they get
Ok-Dot-5084
Fuck ESPN and fuck the refs. Boys were gassed but they can’t play the isles, the refs, and Toronto all in one night. Nobody had the Sabres making the playoffs in their preseason pools. Sports betting is taking its toll on smaller teams like ours.
Matty_Ice022
That was clearly not a goal and idk how Toronto can get so many calls so wrong.
Also Bryson is bad and idk how he gets playing time.
BabyBottoms23
Rule 78.5(I) When the puck has been **DIRECTED**, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done **DELIBERATELY**, then the decision shall be **NO GOAL**. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.
NHL doesn’t even follow their own rules
jtww
This one hurts.
People are going to blame the refs but in reality you don’t get outshot and outplayed for 3 periods and deserve to win. Horvat could’ve had a hattrick himself.
Bryson is extremely bad. He can’t play anymore games.
Edit: I should also stress, these are the types of losses that shape teams. It’s good for the young guys to go through times like this. See how bad it sucks. I obviously would’ve preferred to win but these are learning experiences that will only help us in the future.
RagingAtRandom
Lots of things that should have been different in that game but the neutral zone trap should be illegal. Absolutely unreal you can park 5 guys on the blue line and force teams to dump and chase the entire game
WorthPlease
One of the biggest games of the season and we lose it on an absolute horseshit call.
I would’ve expected that to be a good goal called on the ice and then reviewed and called a kick and overturned.
To have it be ruled a good goal on the ice and somehow overturned is hilarious.
Sabres got absolutely bodied by their bottom 6. Casey Cizikas and Hudson Fasching had 90+ xGF%
Beechsack
>78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons: (i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. **A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately** **batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.** (ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion.
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Even if it wasn’t a kick, it was deliberately batted into the net with something that wasn’t the stick.
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Good job, NHL. As usual.
CrunchMan94
The way he opened his skate up and was reaching out with his free glove, I think his intent was to knock the puck down so he could control it… but ultimately, his skate was off the ice and moving in the direction of the goal. So intentional or not, it was a “kicking” motion.
And to overturn the call after a 5 minute review, I’m just beyond confused.
HilmDave
Islanders are 12th in the league in market value, Sabres are 30th. And that’s why that wasn’t a kicking motion.
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Playing the Islanders and Toronto it seems.
I don’t care what the announcers or anyone say. That was a kicking motion.
I wasn’t watching the game, and from the comments I dodged a bullet on the announcers. Anyone got a vid of the kick that cost us the game?
Why can’t we have nice things….
How can you overturn that freaking call, unbelievable.
how the fuck is lifting your skate off the ice, then moving your leg in the direction of the net, not a kicking motion?
According to rule 78.5 (i) in the NHL rulebook, goals will be disallowed “when the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick.”
I don’t even blame the boys, rough back to back but holy shit these refs made me do fucking mad some of the shit they were fucking up tonight
The Fasching goal absolutely should not have counted. Fucking ridiculous to have a game decided with a goal like that.
Lost because of a kicked in goal.
I’ll never listen to an ESPN game again. Not kidding I’ll just listen to music. I’m done with their garbage product.
Man I know they are young but I really just wanted to get in this year… and to lose on that kick…
>distinct kicking motion
Thought it was pretty clear but whatever.
“After reviewing the play Buffalo go fuck yourelves”
That call fucked us so badly…
The rule clearly states:
*Rule 78.5(I) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.*
Fucking bullshit! We got jobbed. That goal was a clear kick or kicking motion. Biggest game we’ve had in a decade and it’s decided by the NHL. Complete bullshit.
I thought playoffs were 100% out of the question before the season began. Then they had to make me a believer just to tear me down in march lol.
At least this year I’m confident in saying we’ll actually be good next year and hopefully won’t have all these stupid little issues holding us back
Well that night was brutal for our playoff chances with Pittsburgh coming back too. We’ll need to go on a hot streak which may be tough without Tuch.
Toronto screwing over Buffalo any chance they get
Fuck ESPN and fuck the refs. Boys were gassed but they can’t play the isles, the refs, and Toronto all in one night. Nobody had the Sabres making the playoffs in their preseason pools. Sports betting is taking its toll on smaller teams like ours.
That was clearly not a goal and idk how Toronto can get so many calls so wrong.
Also Bryson is bad and idk how he gets playing time.
Rule 78.5(I) When the puck has been **DIRECTED**, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done **DELIBERATELY**, then the decision shall be **NO GOAL**. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.
NHL doesn’t even follow their own rules
This one hurts.
People are going to blame the refs but in reality you don’t get outshot and outplayed for 3 periods and deserve to win. Horvat could’ve had a hattrick himself.
Bryson is extremely bad. He can’t play anymore games.
Edit: I should also stress, these are the types of losses that shape teams. It’s good for the young guys to go through times like this. See how bad it sucks. I obviously would’ve preferred to win but these are learning experiences that will only help us in the future.
Lots of things that should have been different in that game but the neutral zone trap should be illegal. Absolutely unreal you can park 5 guys on the blue line and force teams to dump and chase the entire game
One of the biggest games of the season and we lose it on an absolute horseshit call.
I would’ve expected that to be a good goal called on the ice and then reviewed and called a kick and overturned.
To have it be ruled a good goal on the ice and somehow overturned is hilarious.
A once again disastrous shot map: https://www.naturalstattrick.com/heatmaps/games/20222023/20222023-21017-5v5.png
Sabres got absolutely bodied by their bottom 6. Casey Cizikas and Hudson Fasching had 90+ xGF%
>78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the
Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public
Address Announcer for the following reasons:
(i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an
attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is
deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO
GOAL. **A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately**
**batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.**
(ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion.
​
Even if it wasn’t a kick, it was deliberately batted into the net with something that wasn’t the stick.
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Good job, NHL. As usual.
The way he opened his skate up and was reaching out with his free glove, I think his intent was to knock the puck down so he could control it… but ultimately, his skate was off the ice and moving in the direction of the goal. So intentional or not, it was a “kicking” motion.
And to overturn the call after a 5 minute review, I’m just beyond confused.
Islanders are 12th in the league in market value, Sabres are 30th. And that’s why that wasn’t a kicking motion.