Yeah there has to be a discussion about Firing Brad
The most concerning thing to me is how we are having another discussion about how a Coach has lost the room, especially since this teams core looks largely different this year, but the same issues with coaches losing the room are still present,
To me that indicates hiring the wrong coach, or bringing in the wrong players either way I think the GM has to wear it.
Appropriate_Shape833
The Flames would be foolish to let Treliving walk. He’s been Calgary’s best GM since Cliff Fletcher. Sure, he made mistakes, but no GM is perfect and the team is in much better shape than when he inherited it. Drafting has been much, much better and that had been Calgary’s weak spot since the late 80s.
bleedingoutlaw28
It was one bad season after a clusterfuck of a summer, I just don’t see that being enough to rationalize firing either one of them. If Huby and Marky didn’t enjoy a monumental collapse from last year I think we’d be a lock to at least get crushed in the first round of the playoffs and then the conversation might be different.
Don’t get me wrong, I see the issues with this team and a lot of it is due to Sutter and Tre, but I just don’t see this happening yet.
Visotto1
Bridging Tkachuk to Keep Frolik is enough a reason for me to see Brad go. His asset management is the worst in the league.
Luder09
If they let Tre go and hire Sutter as GM, f*ck this team.
ballisticpumpkin5
The issue for me is who do we replace tre with? Good gms aren’t just waiting around for a job, and while he hasn’t been perfect there’s something to be said for his willingness to make a splash – I’d prefer he stuck around than the possible alternative of gm sutter.
Konradia
If the GM is not signed, get rid of Sutter, too. A new GM should have his own choice of Coach and assistants.
This is a tough situation, and I wonder if some of it could have been solved last summer.
oddeyeleven
I wonder if Kylington not playing had anything to do with Sutter coaching. With all the (deserved) awareness regarding mental health, maybe it was a no go from Kylington. Now, with the rumours of Backlund asking for a trade last summer and the unrest in the locker room during the season, I don’t think this is a stretch.
Times have changed quite a bit since Sutter last coached. The stick approach doesn’t work as well as the carrot. This is all conjecture, but it seems like the pieces fit.
jackpmac34
please keep tre, let him finish off what he built before this roster has to rebuild
tawp9898
From an outside perspective from someone who is not a flames fan, I find it sort of strange that people are blaming the GM for the Flames season. He did an amazing job recovering as best one could from both Tkachuk and Gaudreau. The team should have been ready to go otherwise. Who would have thought Huberdeau would underperform this much, and Markstrom would regress so much. Sutter on the other hand is an overated dinosaur. Guess you can blame the GM for bringing him in to begin with.
McKarmic
I think tre should replace John bean as president then get Conroy as gm. Tre always has time for public availability and does things john bean should be doing when it comes to addressing the fans, Conroy has a knack (I believe) for finding hidden gems for prospects.
DUCKY_23
Keep Tre pls.
super6646
Fire everyone.
Sorry, but I’ll never understand the stanning for Tre. Guy had 10 yrs and got 2 playoff wins outside the first round. 17th in RS pts % too. The team is mid-tier at best, and the end result is two franchise crippling contracts and a team not good enough to win. But he’s a top tier GM for winning the Hamilton trade and getting Kadri at 7×7 for Monahan + 1st.
Ppl keep clamouring about how its all about winning now, but then don’t want to see chances given to the prospects. After all Wolf might be ruined and implode into a blackhole, or Ruzicka is lazy and Phillips isn’t a saviour something something. The team was content with what they had despite it being clear it wasn’t enough. Maybe Sutter had a role with that too, ultimately we’ll never know. All ik is this team sat on their laurels and missed the playoffs with one of the older rosters in the league.
The-Reddit-Giraffe
Getting rid of Treliving would be about the stupidest thing we could do in my opinion. He’s a top 5 GM in the league in my opinion and there’s not going to be any other top 5 GM’s available anytime soon
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Yeah there has to be a discussion about Firing Brad
The most concerning thing to me is how we are having another discussion about how a Coach has lost the room, especially since this teams core looks largely different this year, but the same issues with coaches losing the room are still present,
To me that indicates hiring the wrong coach, or bringing in the wrong players either way I think the GM has to wear it.
The Flames would be foolish to let Treliving walk. He’s been Calgary’s best GM since Cliff Fletcher. Sure, he made mistakes, but no GM is perfect and the team is in much better shape than when he inherited it. Drafting has been much, much better and that had been Calgary’s weak spot since the late 80s.
It was one bad season after a clusterfuck of a summer, I just don’t see that being enough to rationalize firing either one of them. If Huby and Marky didn’t enjoy a monumental collapse from last year I think we’d be a lock to at least get crushed in the first round of the playoffs and then the conversation might be different.
Don’t get me wrong, I see the issues with this team and a lot of it is due to Sutter and Tre, but I just don’t see this happening yet.
Bridging Tkachuk to Keep Frolik is enough a reason for me to see Brad go. His asset management is the worst in the league.
If they let Tre go and hire Sutter as GM, f*ck this team.
The issue for me is who do we replace tre with? Good gms aren’t just waiting around for a job, and while he hasn’t been perfect there’s something to be said for his willingness to make a splash – I’d prefer he stuck around than the possible alternative of gm sutter.
If the GM is not signed, get rid of Sutter, too. A new GM should have his own choice of Coach and assistants.
This is a tough situation, and I wonder if some of it could have been solved last summer.
I wonder if Kylington not playing had anything to do with Sutter coaching. With all the (deserved) awareness regarding mental health, maybe it was a no go from Kylington. Now, with the rumours of Backlund asking for a trade last summer and the unrest in the locker room during the season, I don’t think this is a stretch.
Times have changed quite a bit since Sutter last coached. The stick approach doesn’t work as well as the carrot. This is all conjecture, but it seems like the pieces fit.
please keep tre, let him finish off what he built before this roster has to rebuild
From an outside perspective from someone who is not a flames fan, I find it sort of strange that people are blaming the GM for the Flames season. He did an amazing job recovering as best one could from both Tkachuk and Gaudreau. The team should have been ready to go otherwise. Who would have thought Huberdeau would underperform this much, and Markstrom would regress so much. Sutter on the other hand is an overated dinosaur. Guess you can blame the GM for bringing him in to begin with.
I think tre should replace John bean as president then get Conroy as gm. Tre always has time for public availability and does things john bean should be doing when it comes to addressing the fans, Conroy has a knack (I believe) for finding hidden gems for prospects.
Keep Tre pls.
Fire everyone.
Sorry, but I’ll never understand the stanning for Tre. Guy had 10 yrs and got 2 playoff wins outside the first round. 17th in RS pts % too. The team is mid-tier at best, and the end result is two franchise crippling contracts and a team not good enough to win. But he’s a top tier GM for winning the Hamilton trade and getting Kadri at 7×7 for Monahan + 1st.
Ppl keep clamouring about how its all about winning now, but then don’t want to see chances given to the prospects. After all Wolf might be ruined and implode into a blackhole, or Ruzicka is lazy and Phillips isn’t a saviour something something. The team was content with what they had despite it being clear it wasn’t enough. Maybe Sutter had a role with that too, ultimately we’ll never know. All ik is this team sat on their laurels and missed the playoffs with one of the older rosters in the league.
Getting rid of Treliving would be about the stupidest thing we could do in my opinion. He’s a top 5 GM in the league in my opinion and there’s not going to be any other top 5 GM’s available anytime soon
Fire them both. Put Conny in charge