Mike and Jason discuss Bo Horvat’s playoff struggles with the New York Islanders thus far, and how he might not be the type of player that Isles fans expected.
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25 Comments
no one cares what these dudes think
Who cares
I would rather have Horvat at 8.5 than Tyler Myers @6…LoL
Watch after a whole training camp how Horvat does next year.
The contract was brutal from day one. That’s how contracts works and he ‘deserves’ it.
But what Bo is at his heart is an excellent 2nd line center, who can’t drive offense, but can finish.
Bo needs playmakers to be successful. Guys like Quinn Hughes, Elias pettersson, JT Miller.
If you’re expecting Bo to a first line offensive driver every game, that’s just not him.
But what the man is, is a leader. Grade A, Captain material, lockeroom, playoff performer, ALL the intangibles.
Lou gave out a bad contract!? Wow shocking
Bo is…
– a great finisher
– a killer on the face off circle
– a respectable skater (waaay better than his early days)
– a boring person
Bo is NOT
– a playmaker
– a defensive center
– a physical gritty player
– emotional/passionate. Could be a pro or a con depending on how you look.
Is that worth 8.5m a year? Islanders seem to think so.
Canucks fans shitting on Horvat… big surprise lol
I mean they really didn't pay him like a 40 goal guy. They paid him like what he is. A 20-30 goal 55-70 point guy. Who's great at faceoffs who always has more takeaways than giveaways. And who is about a 3/4 hit and block per game guy. He's a tier 2 two way player. He's a poor mans Patrice Bergeron. And if Bergeron was paid the proper amount during his prime he would have made probably 10m per season. Horvat making 8.5 several years later is about right.
The Isles bought high on a guy who may very well never produce like he did before the trade.
I doubt that it concerns them too much, since their main problem currently is an inability to get pucks past Antti Raanta, of all people.
This shows just how clueless you guys are of other markets and nothing but talking out your ass. He got 8.5M because he earned the price when leaving Van. If you check the last 4 seasons Horvats production has increased each season based on games played and would have probably been over 50 goals this season had he stayed.
Everyone knows the Islanders play the most boring style out of the 32 teams and their offense is stale, was the worst place for him to go. Put him on a team with actual skill and see what happens.
At 8.5 mill he deserves all the criticism he gets
Hes been brutal since joining ny
RELAX! he played 32 games with NYI. check back april 2024, that's when they'll know his worth with NYI is.
I think there's a few huge things that are missed here, and I get it – the Islanders are not a Canadian team:
1) Barzal was OUT for those 30+ games where Horvat only had 7 goals.
2) Barzal is still working his way back to being completely healthy in the fricking playoffs, of course things are going to be out of whack
3) The Islanders got a bit hosed these last 2 playoffs games, and for what its worth they were the BETTER team in game 2 despite the 0-6 in powerplays
4) Is Horvat worth 8.5mil? Probably not – but also, who knows? Not every player jumps on to a new team and performs ridiculously like they were before. Look at Timo Meier, he's not lighting it up for the Devils at all and analytically he actually projects as a high end first line player (unlike Horvat)
5) The majority of deals like these age poorly, this isn't some crazy hot take. If Horvat puts up 30 goals each season for the next 3 years as far as I'm concerned its a fair deal. And that is very, very possible when you're playing with Barzal at 5v5 and on the PP where he was only 2nd to McDavid this year in primary assist shots generated/60.
He's a 25 goal guy based on career average.
Horvat fits right in with the islanders. Slow skilled guy on almost the back 9 of his career
Next year should reveal exactly how good or bad the trade was for both VAN & NYI
Horvat is a non factor
I am so glad we got rid of Horvat. He never struck me as an inspring leader.
I'm a Canucks fan and I've been saying since this contract talk started this year that horvat is 40-50 point on average player. He's been in the league almost 10 years now, he's reached his peak. I'm glad he's gone from the Canucks and sad for Islander fans when they see his true point production.
Sure he's good on faceoffs, PK, shut down guy, etc but not worth his contract.
small sample, but so far horvat has 0 points and hovering around 50% on faceoffs this playoffs
I would have loved Horvat at somewhere in the 5-6.5 range. At the contract that he wanted and got, im happy that we didnt have him. Not too say we'll spend the equivalent cap space better, but theres atleast the opportunity for us too as opposed to the situation we'd have been in otherwise.
I'd rather be Bo Horvat than anyone connected to the Canucks.
30 goal scorer
I don't think the Isles are paying Horvat $8.5milx8yrs to play a 'good two-way game' but only produce half a point per game. If you want that for a few years, you go out and sign Jonathan Toews for maybe$2-3mil…
oh stop, the islanders made the playoffs after he joined