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Will The Coyotes Stay in Arizona? | 32 Thoughts



Jeff and Elliotte discuss the decision by voters to reject the proposed Tempe Arena Project, what might be next for the Coyotes and if we’ll see the team relocate. They also get into Toronto’s year-end press conferences and the Oilers. That and more on this full episode of 32 Thoughts!
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00:01 – Voters to reject the proposed Tempe Arena Project
14:00 – Toronto season-end press conference
33:00 – Oilers season-end press conference
49:30 – Lookahead to the off-season for the Kraken
37:40 – Ottawa sale
A slew of mgmt/coaching updates on —
39:00 – Calgary
40:30 – Pittsburgh
47:11 – Washington
47:30 – New York Rangers
48:20 – Anaheim
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26 Comments

  1. They better ship it out to a market that’s actually profitable. Population size doesn’t mean anything if the people don’t care about hockey

  2. WHY NOT QUEBEC CITY!? I mean everyone their are ready. I know, this is a small market, but they have the ownership, they have the building, they even have the fans base for a team that doesn't exist! They are waiting for like 15 years! Give them a team and everyone will have what they want. They can sell all season ticket in a 24h window for a 2023-2024 hockey season.

  3. They shouldve been gone long ago. QUEBEC City gets back to the NHL. You can't survive on 3k asses in the seats. Quebec city has an NHL arena just waiting.

  4. Only registered voters of Tempe were allowed to vote. The whole state benefits so its stupid only Tempe could vote on it. I'm only a few miles away in Mesa and couldn't vote on it. Stupid 👎

  5. Quebec junior team is sold out for the final,at least i hope they will look at the possibility and tv rate would be way higher with MTL rivalry.

  6. I don't think it's that complex: the team already has an existing lease with ASU for the next couple years. There's no sense in taking on the costs of a) breaking that lease, b) picking up the team and moving it across the country, and c) signing a new lease in a building you don't own and have no assurance of a new franchise-owned building. In doing so, the NHL will be footing the bill for not just one failure, but one admitted failure and a second burgeoning failure. The whole point of the ASU deal was to buy time to figure out a long-term solution. If the league wasn't prepared for that, they would never have allowed the ownership group to sign the ASU lease in the first place. That, and I don't know that the NHLPA really has much leverage here. It's not as if there are 7-8 teams in the same position affecting a huge percentage of the union and messing up the salary structure. In fact, this arguably helps business for the players because the Coyotes have served as a liver for the rest of the league to send their bad deals to. As gross as it is for the PR of the league, I'm not sure the current state of affairs is really all that bad for the overall stakeholders at the moment.

  7. As an Islanders fan, I'm just not surprised. The public referendum on the Lighthouse Project fell through, dominated by the over 60 vote screaming the "We don't like traffic!!!" and "We don't want more young people living in different types of housing that would destroy our suburban paradise even though it's just a damn parking lot on Hempstead Turnpike" refrains. Which is what precipitated the temporary jumping around between Brooklyn and Nassau for a few years. But, what the Islanders had was old fashioned politics on their side. The owner is connected, and Governor Cuomo is from Queens and went to Islanders games as a kid and doesn't take "no" for an answer, so they were able to make UBS Arena happen right down the street anyway. It seems like the Coyotes don't have any of that clout, and nobody on the politics side is going to back them up, so there's just no way around it to make anything actually work.

    The biggest mistake in all of this was burning the bridge with Glendale before trying the referendum in Tempe. They over played their hand. Even if Glendale wasn't going to work in the long term, at least it's an actual NHL Arena to play in while the rest gets sorted out. Now they're stuck in the equivalent of an ECHL arena and have to beg the Suns to move in with them, which isn't going to go well.

  8. Some years ago, Phoenix ran a bond election with the slogan, "Progress or Decay."

    Decay won by a 2-1 margin. (In Arizona, the word, "tax," is spelled with two x's.)

    The reasonit took so long to buld the freeways there was because it took five years to get Ajo to return the state cement mixer.

  9. This team has been a Sh*t stain on Bettman&NHL since day 1 glad the city said NO as taxpayers didn t want to foot the bill while the Billionaires owners get off scott free. And even if they stayed after taxpayer money you couldn t even afford to goto a game anyway.

  10. Moooove the Franchise please!!!Huston, Quebec, Portland, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Cleveland … all big Cities with NHL size Arenas. There are options. At least one of them should work.

  11. Please move them to Quebec. The junior team is always sold out and Quebec can support an NHL team. Canada loves hockey and should have another team.

  12. Videotron/TVA/Freedom Mobile can afford to bring the Nordiques back if they purchase Coyotes. As for team in Hamilton in the Central division can actually work. Southwestern Ontario fans from Windsor to Kitchener will travel to Hamilton to watch games. Hamilton Mustangs has to be the name. If a movie team can become a reality, Mustangs would be great. Would need Keanu Reeves and Rob Lowe at opening night.

  13. All these people saying Quebec City are the exact reason they won’t go to Quebec City. They are all passionate hockey fans there already- the money would just shift from the other franchises to the new one but wouldn’t actually make much NEW money.

  14. This should have happened years ago. This experiment in PNX and Tempe, was a waste of time and money.

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