Ngl I’d do it, probably other 2 teams won’t. It’s just a fantasy anyway!
SackofLlamas
Man this is up there with that Marner for Miller trade in terms of boneheaded nonsense. I enjoy J.T. Miller but he is absolutely, 100% more of what the Leafs already have and not a solution to any of their problems. So not only do they get bled on age, value and contract efficiency, they’re not even gaining anything back by way of intangibles.
Of course Dubas is apparently on his way out and Chiarelli and Benning are unemployed so anything is possible.
nihilism_ftw
> “it sort of felt like the Canucks wanted a take-back”
Just because most fans have no clue what value Miller brings to the table doesn’t mean that our management also doesn’t lol
21marvel1
The only thing holding me back is the lack of C coming back… ahhhhh but Nylander would be so good with Pettersson …but ahhhh the C depth would be way too thin and there isn’t any real options on the FA market that we could afford to fill that 2C spot.
Upbeat_Trainer
Who’s our 2c then? Nylander is also due for a raise and there’s going to be no savings from the Miller contract. I wouldn’t mind Nylander playing with Petey, but it creates other problems.
Not to mention that we already have a shitload of wingers, many of which we’re trying to get rid of.
Xanyol
JT is exactly what the leafs need- a guy that would drag them into the fight because mitchy is too scared
metrichustle
Nylander Petey Kuzy. Sounds good to me
NotaRussianChabot
This looks very lopsided but then you remember how bad that Matt Murray contract is.
CrabBeanie
Miller has “outer-rim Selke consideration… two way style…”
The snarky reply basically writes itself.
TheWeakestLink1
This doesn’t address Vancouver’s needs for a 2C. I think the only option for Vancouver to get a 2C deal is to send nylander to Chicago instead. Since Chicago doesn’t have a good center to offer, I think the only way for this to work is if they offer a 1st round pick in this year’s draft so Vancouver can select a 2C.
Cowabunguss
I’d do it
Faldarian
Another winger and a 3rd pairing D. Those are the two positions we have so many of we should be trying to shed.
What we need most is a top-4 RHD, and middle six center.
CaptainIndoCanadian
This obviously won’t happen as much as we’d love to, but the fact that opposing teams are willing to do this has me hyped lmao. What other eliminated team can we take advantage of?! Give us Laffy and K’andre NYR!!!
JGibbons151
I follow both teams closely and wouldn’t mind this from either side. Sure, the Canucks win this deal but the leafs could do worse than adding a guy like Miller. The only concern with Nylander would be what kind of money he might want as a UFA. Still think the Canucks should do this if it were ever an option.
DaMonstaburg
This would be a great trade and might’ve been considered if not for Nylander being the only Leaf on ice during Round 2 who wanted to win that series.
DisplacedNovaScotian
Lol yes please.
SoExcited_1
This deal sucks ass
skorvat
Anyone who wouldn’t do this deal is out of their mind. There is good value in just getting out of Miller’s deal, let alone getting back a talent like Nylander and an RHD in Liljegren.
joeyandkuma
Why would we need another winger of which we have many of the same mould also leaves a gap at c2 makes no sense
DirectorIsaac
Who’s the 2C bro what
Semprovictus
Problem I have here is the contract amounts don’t line up, and then we have a significant hole in our 2c and 3c spots with no room to move
Jazzlike_Kick_5434
I think the only way this happens is if MLSE replaces Dubas with Hextall.
Spookedchicken
I’d say yes and hang up to call the NHL head office the moment that offer is made to me before the Leafs change their mind. That would be an unequivocal fleecing by us it’s not even funny.
Initial-Ad-5462
Just no.
LeftToaster
I’m trying to see what Chicago gives up in this deal. They only acquire assets?
If I understand it correctly from each team’s perspective:
* Leafs trade Nylander, Murray, Liljegren and a 2024 4th round pick for JT Miller. In terms of cap space they have $12.9M going out and $8M coming in. * The Canucks trade JT Miller and a 2023 4th round pick for William Nylander and Timothy Liljegren. $8M in cap spacing going out, $8.3M coming back. * The Blackhawks trade nothing for Matt Murray and 2023 and 2024 4th round picks.
From a value perspective, the Leafs get hosed and Vancouver and Chicago win. I guess I’m fine with that conceptually.
However from a team building perspective, the Canucks are already a bit shallow at Centre and really deep on the Wings – with Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser, Beauvillier, Garland, Podkolzin, Joshua, Hoglander, Kravtsov, etc. While Nylander would move up to near the top of this list (maybe rival Kuzmenko) it doesn’t really make the team any better. Worse, we would lose our depth at centre – meaning Dries, Aman, Raty or McDonough would have to step up into a permanent NHL 2nd line C role – none of them are equipped to do. So then with even more expensive depth on the wings we would immediately have to trade at least 1 of these wingers for a 3C and some cap relief.
NoClue22
No. Lilgren is a defensive black hole. Bear is essentially the same player. And Miller is better then contract year nylander. Miller is better then nylander and Lilgren. Not a good trade
Shironye
Canucks are making out like bandits in this, lmao.
Do this and the 11th + Garland for Laf. Oh yeah.
KD9512
The Canucks couldn’t say yes fast enough to that. Why the Leafs would say yes? Not a clue. They’d need another piece back.
Vanrainy1
Why would the ‘nucks do this? I’ d take JT over Nylander every time.
JTMilleriswortha1st
i’d love that trade if it actually happened
PixelBot9000
As a Canucks fan, I am absolutely thrilled about this three-way deal proposal from Sportsnet. It’s about time some good news came our way! I can only hope that the team takes advantage of this opportunity and comes out on top. Let’s go Canucks!
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Ngl I’d do it, probably other 2 teams won’t. It’s just a fantasy anyway!
Man this is up there with that Marner for Miller trade in terms of boneheaded nonsense. I enjoy J.T. Miller but he is absolutely, 100% more of what the Leafs already have and not a solution to any of their problems. So not only do they get bled on age, value and contract efficiency, they’re not even gaining anything back by way of intangibles.
Of course Dubas is apparently on his way out and Chiarelli and Benning are unemployed so anything is possible.
> “it sort of felt like the Canucks wanted a take-back”
Just because most fans have no clue what value Miller brings to the table doesn’t mean that our management also doesn’t lol
The only thing holding me back is the lack of C coming back… ahhhhh but Nylander would be so good with Pettersson …but ahhhh the C depth would be way too thin and there isn’t any real options on the FA market that we could afford to fill that 2C spot.
Who’s our 2c then? Nylander is also due for a raise and there’s going to be no savings from the Miller contract. I wouldn’t mind Nylander playing with Petey, but it creates other problems.
Not to mention that we already have a shitload of wingers, many of which we’re trying to get rid of.
JT is exactly what the leafs need- a guy that would drag them into the fight because mitchy is too scared
Nylander Petey Kuzy. Sounds good to me
This looks very lopsided but then you remember how bad that Matt Murray contract is.
Miller has “outer-rim Selke consideration… two way style…”
The snarky reply basically writes itself.
This doesn’t address Vancouver’s needs for a 2C. I think the only option for Vancouver to get a 2C deal is to send nylander to Chicago instead. Since Chicago doesn’t have a good center to offer, I think the only way for this to work is if they offer a 1st round pick in this year’s draft so Vancouver can select a 2C.
I’d do it
Another winger and a 3rd pairing D. Those are the two positions we have so many of we should be trying to shed.
What we need most is a top-4 RHD, and middle six center.
This obviously won’t happen as much as we’d love to, but the fact that opposing teams are willing to do this has me hyped lmao. What other eliminated team can we take advantage of?! Give us Laffy and K’andre NYR!!!
I follow both teams closely and wouldn’t mind this from either side. Sure, the Canucks win this deal but the leafs could do worse than adding a guy like Miller. The only concern with Nylander would be what kind of money he might want as a UFA. Still think the Canucks should do this if it were ever an option.
This would be a great trade and might’ve been considered if not for Nylander being the only Leaf on ice during Round 2 who wanted to win that series.
Lol yes please.
This deal sucks ass
Anyone who wouldn’t do this deal is out of their mind. There is good value in just getting out of Miller’s deal, let alone getting back a talent like Nylander and an RHD in Liljegren.
Why would we need another winger of which we have many of the same mould also leaves a gap at c2 makes no sense
Who’s the 2C bro what
Problem I have here is the contract amounts don’t line up, and then we have a significant hole in our 2c and 3c spots with no room to move
I think the only way this happens is if MLSE replaces Dubas with Hextall.
I’d say yes and hang up to call the NHL head office the moment that offer is made to me before the Leafs change their mind. That would be an unequivocal fleecing by us it’s not even funny.
Just no.
I’m trying to see what Chicago gives up in this deal. They only acquire assets?
If I understand it correctly from each team’s perspective:
* Leafs trade Nylander, Murray, Liljegren and a 2024 4th round pick for JT Miller. In terms of cap space they have $12.9M going out and $8M coming in.
* The Canucks trade JT Miller and a 2023 4th round pick for William Nylander and Timothy Liljegren. $8M in cap spacing going out, $8.3M coming back.
* The Blackhawks trade nothing for Matt Murray and 2023 and 2024 4th round picks.
From a value perspective, the Leafs get hosed and Vancouver and Chicago win. I guess I’m fine with that conceptually.
However from a team building perspective, the Canucks are already a bit shallow at Centre and really deep on the Wings – with Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser, Beauvillier, Garland, Podkolzin, Joshua, Hoglander, Kravtsov, etc. While Nylander would move up to near the top of this list (maybe rival Kuzmenko) it doesn’t really make the team any better. Worse, we would lose our depth at centre – meaning Dries, Aman, Raty or McDonough would have to step up into a permanent NHL 2nd line C role – none of them are equipped to do. So then with even more expensive depth on the wings we would immediately have to trade at least 1 of these wingers for a 3C and some cap relief.
No. Lilgren is a defensive black hole. Bear is essentially the same player. And Miller is better then contract year nylander. Miller is better then nylander and Lilgren. Not a good trade
Canucks are making out like bandits in this, lmao.
Do this and the 11th + Garland for Laf. Oh yeah.
The Canucks couldn’t say yes fast enough to that. Why the Leafs would say yes? Not a clue. They’d need another piece back.
Why would the ‘nucks do this? I’ d take JT over Nylander every time.
i’d love that trade if it actually happened
As a Canucks fan, I am absolutely thrilled about this three-way deal proposal from Sportsnet. It’s about time some good news came our way! I can only hope that the team takes advantage of this opportunity and comes out on top. Let’s go Canucks!