Statement from Kyle Dubas
onward. pic.twitter.com/kHlCfe8Q0a
— Kyle Dubas (@kyledubas) May 23, 2023
by MetastableToChaos
@Toronto Maple Leafs
Statement from Kyle Dubas
onward. pic.twitter.com/kHlCfe8Q0a
— Kyle Dubas (@kyledubas) May 23, 2023
by MetastableToChaos
48 Comments
Shouldāve kept him.
And just like that this chapter of Leafs history is complete.
Goddamnit. His tenure ended way too early.
Results weren’t there but he was always class and this continues that.
He didn’t specifically thank Shanahan. Let’s all speculate, go!
This reads like “I was gonna have to do some hard shit and I wanted to make sure that my family and myself were okay with that and the repercussions (socially, professionally, emotionally) that would come from that” and that while he was thinking about that, Shanny kicked the chair
Absolute class here.
Text version for accessibility:
While I understand there is interest surrounding the circumstances of my
departure, I will not get into the specifics of what I consider to be
reasonable and consistent but private discussions. In the days that I felt
I needed to assess and evaluate my own view to the future, both with
respect to the necessary direction of the Club and ensuring that I had the
full support of my family for what I knew would be required in the off-
season and years to follow, the organization, as is their right to do, decided
to go in a different direction.
In the nine seasons since being afforded the opportunity to work in the
National Hockey League for the Toronto Maple leafs, we have had the
chance to learn a lot and have grown significantly through the ups and
downs. We have watched our family double in size while developing
meaningful relationships which will last a lifetime. It was an honour to be
able to work in such an inspiring place, with dedicated, loyal people and an
extremely passionate tan base. The impact of that and the relationships
with all of the people at MLSE, from the board of directors through to the
ushers at Scotiabank Arena, will forever hold a dear place in our hearts.
To the players, coaches and staff at the facility each day, past and present,
thank you for your passion and commitment at every step of the journey
together. It was a tremendous pleasure to work alongside you each day.
We will roll from here.
-The Dubas Family
Heās got way more class then shanahan. MLSE choose the wrong guy.
The fact that it seems like it was going to be _way_ too hard for him to do what was necessary is a red flag. He needed to ditch one of his stars that was underperforming, and his long time coaching partner. Dubas seems like a good guy, but I think he needs to learn that he can’t develop relationships with his people that prevent him from doing what needs to be done. It sucks, but that’s the job. All these decisions seem to be coming a year or two late, and it’s probably because he couldn’t cope with being the bad guy. I can see why Shanahan had second thoughts.
Of course Kyle isn’t gunna start talking shit at this point, he’s on the market now and it wouldn’t do anything positive for him. I’ll just wait for his tell all book ten years from now.
Awesome. I thought Dubas was great. Happy to move on now and stop hearing nothing burgers of rumours/speculation hope we get someone new in soon
Remember this, Shanny gave this guy a chance when no one would. This guy was a nobody, did nothing noteworthy, and Shanny gave him an opportunity. Now a decade later he tries to shake him for more money, and ends up overplaying his hand.
Now he is some sort of Martyr for trading away picks and spending 40mil on an ineffective core.
Gonna miss Kyle. He’s the kind of guy I want to see succeed
Iām glad we can move on
See you in Pittsburgh,Mr President!
Statement like that makes you think he wonāt be taking another job anytime soon.
But weāll see ā¦
Iām sure in like 20 years heāll write a book on his side of the story.
But until then, he took the high road. Happy to have had him on the leafās but onto new things!
Say whatever you want about his tenure here Dubas seems like a classy guy that is liked and respected by both his players and peers around the league
A good professional response that hopefully calms everybody down. Mudslinging would have been such a bad look for all involved.
Wasn’t hired for his grammar
Dubas leaving has exposed the real problem – the leafs operate like a big dumb corporation. GM has a boss with veto power, and a board that votes on hockey operations.
They are a profit center first, and a hockey team second.
This sub is in love with a gm who won 1 playoff series in how long?youād think we atleast made a finals the way some of you suck off Dubas
r/leafs, where being passive aggressive = class
He’s a super nice, perhaps TOO nice. A players coach is one thing but a players GM is trouble and we had both. He really should take a year off and re-calibrate as he said. Going with Pitts would be the pits. They are borderline ready to rebuild.
Sometimes good things donāt work out. I was frustrated the organization is losing, from all indications, a stand up person. I have been following the club since 99 and I have never been happier as a fan, and with the direction of the team, as I have with Kyle at the helm.
I donāt really think you have to pick a side. I liked Dubas, but if it went down as Shanahan laid out, I also understand to a certain extent.
There are other people who can build hockey clubs. Shanahan put Dubas in place, and hopefully he carries on with good selections.
I have no doubt Kyle will do well with another organization. Seems like a very Toronto thing for him to go win somewhere else(AA anyone?). If being in hockey isnāt for him, he could probably write a book on his time with the Leafs and retire off that money.
After a few days, my frustration has chilled out a bit. Time to turn the page.
interesting that on dubas way out he puts down the ushers as the least important people in the organization, kinda fucked up tbh
Guy wins one round by the skin of his teeth in how many years and people are acting like the sky is falling. Have been a big Dubas supporter since day one but heās done nothing. And now the next GM has to come in and clean up a cap nightmare.
Go chase the benjis somewhere else Dubes
Signed – The Dubas family
This is a bit of a joke at this point. Stop using your family as leverage. I donāt sign off my employment letters with a goodbye from my family, his wife and kids arenāt employed by MLSE.
Really sounds like he dug his own grave yet acted surprised when he got placed in it. I like Dubas and wanted him to stay, but this family orientated sympathizing tactic is tacky. If youāre concerned about your family why keep bringing them up in public?
Thank God has gone. Wasn’t looking forward to that 15 mill/3 year Matthews extension.
Good riddance. Last I checked we havenāt won shittt
Funny heās talking about the direction of the club when he built it this way for last 5 years. Go to Pitts or Ottawa where less pressure for you and your family. Best of luck.
Last time I checked, the last 9 cups werent won by GM’s named Dubas. We will be fine. We have some really good prospects developing, and writing off the future GM and scouting staff prematurely isnt the right take. Fans that are still around and have been around a long time have lived through eras of Leafs that make this look like hitting a squirrel as opposed to totalling your car by hitting a moose.
The team gets criticized constantly for not having the drive to win but then when the gym comes out and says āIām not sure if I even want this jobā everyone is mad when he gets let go.
Hopeless fans doomed for decades of misery.
His tell all book “My career as GM with Toronto Maple Leafs” in 10-15 years will sell well
I wonder who wrote that for him?
The fact that he’s not disputing anything Shanny says makes me think that the timeline given in his press conference was accurate.
I give Dubas credit for taking the high road here, but getting into a public pissing match with his former employer while he’s looking for a new job isn’t a good look for him IMO. At the end of the day, if he had not spoken to the media while he was in the middle of a high-profile contract negotiation, he would probably be the GM still. Regardless of whether you believe he was being honest/transparent or using it a negotiation ploy, that fact that it could have been interpreted like that means he shouldn’t have done it.
Love the guy but I don’t see this team growing, his system did not work it’s been long enough. Just do the right thing and call the Hunter Brothers NOW!!! Dale is the coach I think we need
āI will not get into specifics for what I consider reasonable and consistent discussionsā
Basically saying he did not blindside Shanny at the last minute. But Shanny says otherwise. Truth lies somewhere in the middle. What I will say, if itās true Dubas asked for more autonomy, I donāt think thatās reasonable since nothing has worked in the past 9 years. Whether thatās on the players, coach, GM, it doesnāt matter. We havent won shit and you want full autonomy?
Everyone dismissing āfamily reasonsā has learned nothing from Tom Brady and Gisele. I bet anyone whoās had a high pressure job that requires constant travelling has had similar conversations with their spouseā¦
When and if he lands in Pittsburgh, he will then see how real stars prepare and play in the reg season and especially the playoffs. Sidney Crosby, even at his age, does not take a shift off.
This will likely open Dubas’ eyes for how he viewed the “core 4.”
Hope for nothing but the best for him
“the Dubas family”
Fresh off using his family as a failed negotiation tactic, he’s now using them to garner sympathy and praise for being so “classy” on the way out.
Dubas or not, the Leafs will endure.
Iāll take on the downvotes: The ārightā way for Dubas to go out, regardless of Shannyās tactics, is not like this.
You donāt do the petty and passive aggressive āonwardā as the one word tweet.
You donāt make the release say āweā and sign it from your family.
You donāt double and triple down on the family narrative.
You take the high road entirely. You make it all positive. You thank Shanny for giving you a chance, the 9 years before the fallout matter. Stood by you on numerous occasions.
It all just reads as petty and immature.
Dubas showed his belly to predators in that presser. He showed a great deal of humanity, but he was already a very weak/green negotiator. No bloody way in hell I’m re-signing a guy that airs his vulnerability before a very crucial time for the team.
I will forever admire this mans compassion and empathy, but you just can’t do what he did.
Still the family card. The Dubas family, eye roll.
Why does everyone have to make mountains out of molehills with this situation. Dubas acted in a certain way Shanny acted in a certain way, and we got a reasonable explanation. I don’t think Dubas was in error for trying to negotiate and it is very possible he was only considering returning with a specific level of raise AND family support of which he only got one. I’m not saying he is or isn’t at fault but why does one of Shanny and Dubas have to be the bad guy when its clear both sides just drifted apart during negotiations from having different perspectives. I don’t think corporate management having the final say in all the deals is great but it does mean there is a level of protection from bad deals at the same time. I’m sort of mixed feelings, I wanted to see what Kyle would do if he had complete control but I don’t want to say goodbye to any of the core players with the exception of JT only because his contract is not near his on ice value.
I am sure he will make a great Starbucks barista