I decided to go back through some historical data on goalie trades back to the 2010 season. Through discussions here, Cap Friendly, and HF Boards, I have a feeling that we are likely to be very whelmed, if not disappointed if Danny doesn’t absolutely fleece a team or get creative with a cap dump adding value to the return. The data as a whole looks very bleak when it comes to goalie values in trade, but there were a few highlights, and hey let’s be positive and hopeful! Below are the best trades from a value perspective in chronological order. I am working on more analysis to try and compare age/stats later to better contextualize these trades vs. Carter Hart, but for now just showcasing what appears to be the best returns on an offseason goalie trade.
Season | Goalie | Return
—|—|—-
21-22 | Darcy Kuemper | Connor Timmins, 1st-2022, 3rd-2024
16-17 | Frederik Andersen | 1st-2016 (#30 OVR), 2nd-2017
15-16 | Martin Jones | 1st-2016 (#29 OVR), Sean Kuraly
15-16 | Robin Lehner * | 1st-205 (#21 OVR)
13-14 | Cory Schneider | 1st-2013 (#9 OVR)
11-12 | Semyon Varlamov | 1st-2012 (#11 OVR), 2nd-2012
*David Legwand was included in the Lehner trade
For some fun (lol pain) here are the Flyers trades since 2010 other than low end prospects and future consideration trades.
Season | Timing | Flyers Get | Flyers Give
—|—|—-|—-
18-19| DL | Cam Talbot | Anthony Stolarz
17-18 | DL | Petr Mrazek | 3rd-2018, ~~3rd-2019~~*
12-13 | DL | Steve Mason | 3rd-2013, Michael Fucking Leighton
12-13 | OS | 2nd-2012, 4th-2012, 4th-2013 | Sergei Bobrovsky
11-12 | OS | Ilya Brygalov’s Rights | 3rd-2012, Matt Clackson
*Someone on HF Boards mentioned the 2019 3rd didn’t convey, due to conditionals, and we got Attard with that pick (It’s the small wins!)
I got all the data from https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/transactions/goaltender/trade/ and did some tedious sorting/compiling in Excel. I did my best to breakdown season, timing in the season (offseason, in-season, deadline) and then pruned some future considerations trades, deals where the goalie involved was a minor leaguer or far off prospect. In the future gonna see what some Cap Dump trades might be worth and whether the Flyers could exploit player trades, cap dump dollars received, and creative use of cap retention to do some wheeling and dealing in the offseason. Thanks for reading.
by flountown
4 Comments
I feel like Hart isn’t going anywhere. It’s a good talking point though.
Bob for a 2nd and two 4ths. Damn.
Thanks for digging into this and posting it.
Are there any other comparable goalies who could create competition for offers and drive down Hart’s trade return, or is Hart “the one” when it comes to good goalies who could be snatched up this summer, and we can drive a hard bargain?
I feel like Briere needs to make a couple smart moves this summer to show the fans and the owners that he’s got the reigns and got the brains. But hopefully he doesn’t feel like he HAS to move Hart.
I had no problem with Steve Mason. He came in and he performed. I feel for him because Berube decided to play him in that Edmonton game just a few days after getting his meniscus operated on. Jeff Reese you’re Berube a new one and Hextall sided with Berube, only to fire him at season’s end and then brought in Hakstol and Brady Dillabaugh, who both then proceeded to run Mason into the ground to the point he got hurt and then Hextall walked away from him to sign Brian fucking Elliott and his gimpy hip. And to think Dillabaugh is still here as the goaltending coach. Hopefully Briere does the right thing and fires Dillabaugh’s sorry ass.
Hart is younger than post of these guys when traded and better than all of them in all honesty. You don’t see a franchise-altering goalie get traded every day, I don’t think he’s going anywhere.