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What do you think about this move?
Dude got fired he has no reason to maintain loyalty to the franchise that just kicked him out. Love seeing all the hit pieces being churned out by Toronto media atm to defend a billion dollar corporation (MLSE) for their shitty management
…I completely understand that he got fired and that can be a game changer…. But I'd also agree he should never have Said he wouldn't go anywhere else… He said he Wouldn't do that to his family. Whether or not he got fired Shouldn't have changed his heartfelt feelings. He did now do that to his family After all.
Leaf fan here. Been pissed off at Shanahan since his overreaction to Dubas' 11th hour counter. Dubas is a very bright guy & I think he improved the entire hockey operation in Toronto during his tenure as GM. Did he make mistakes? Yep, I don't know any GM who doesn't frankly. The thing I admired about Dubas is, if he made a mistake, he acknowledged it & remedied it with little delay. He did not handcuff the Leafs with long term contracts given to guys in their early 30's that would not age well, like his successor has done a few times in Calgary. Hopefully Treliving won't continue that questionable strategy.
Dubas is a creative guy who, unlike some other GMs, targeted high skill, skating, compete level & hockey IQ over strictly size as his predecessor did. Lamoriello drafted 11 D in rounds 2-7 over his 3 years as Leaf GM & only one ever played an NHL game (3) & not for Toronto. Almost all of them were over 6' to 6' 6" tall & over 200 lbs to as much as 240, but obviously not good enough to make the NHL. Notably, a number of guys drafted by Dubas have already played NHL games with more to come. Did he trade picks? Yes, because that's what you do when you're in a window to compete for a championship. Toronto's loss is the Penguins gain, so good luck to Kyle, except when playing Toronto.
I think Dubas will do well in Pittsburgh (unfortunately since I don't really like the Penguins…) AND I fully expect Pittsburgh to be the team that knocks us out of the playoffs next year! 😐
Welp he said that cuz Shany didnt axe him yet. Wanted more power, Shany said nah so he dipped. Can't do much when your employment fires you, would be different if he didn't resign but thats not the case
Leafs needed the change. Wish the best for Kyle.
Pittsburh already wanted him. We knew that. Thats why now he looks like a turd dont use the tough on my family bit and sign 2 weeks later. No gumption and word means zilch
He said that before Shanny stabbed him in the back. Can't really blame him for changing his mind since saying it.
Agreed. He lied in service of his negotiation. It backfired. He built an elite program and I don’t think he should have been fired for saying it. But here we are. It was obviously a power struggle.
Saying that you're not going to leave the franchise/company you work for is a mistake ?
It's easy to screw the pouch and mess up and leaving after doing a big mess. But now Dubas has to clean someone else mess haha! This time he will have less time to do it. because he is farther away from the problem. But sooner or later he will be in trouble.
I have nothing against Dubas but given he has won literally ONE round during his time in Toronto I don't see why people talk about him in the way that they are. He and the leafs never lived up to the hype, we can close the book on that one now. I think he would do wisely to shy away from the spotlight in Pittsburg and let the hockey do the talking.
Not sure what the Pens roster looks like but hopefully he doesn’t find it “unfortunate” if they’re all white.
If you get fired, you owe them absolutely nothing
It was a giant FU to Shanahan. Shanny did him dirty
Sidney Crosby was a huge influence
Totally disagree with your take. The point of his presser was to outline how he was thinking of stepping away, which I think was genuine. He only said he wouldn’t go anywhere else because if he didn’t then there would have been rampant speculation that he was stepping away because he had another opportunity.
I truly think he was just being very honest about how he was feeling in that moment. Remember he did tell Shanahan he wanted the job after all.
But of course Everything changed once he got fired. What is he supposed to do at that point? Not find a new job? You are basically saying people shouldn’t be honest and should just always say the corporate speak, which is boring. It’s nice to see someone say what they feel for once and it makes things way more entertaining so I say MORE of it!
What are you his dad
At the time of that Dubas statement. He was still the Leafs GM. Maybe he felt disrespected for they way things went down.
Kyle could say whatever he wants about his former club.
Move on already.
He did.
Everyone is guilty of saying things in the heat of the moment that they really didn't see themselves with another franchise? Plus he's pretty young but man this dude is smart and as a lifetime penguins fan I'm very excited to know he's on our side.Lets go Pens
You have got to be kidding me. Shit like this happens all the time in sports and in the real world.
What do you think Tavares was going to tell the media when asked about his situation in Long Island?
Grow up and learn how business works.
Hopefully Kyle will bring is loser friend Murray back to Pitt with him
I love my job, and I don’t plan on leaving anytime soon, but if god forbid something happens and I lose my job, yeah I’m busting my ass to find a replacement job. I don’t care what I said before, I need money.
He got fired so they changed everything
Totally fine with what he said, he was showing his commitment to the team. After he got canned things change, so he reassessed and did what was best for him.
His wife talked him into it. His family put him first after he did the same for them. Stop clickbaiting with ice cold takes.
It took so long for Dubas to come to a decision that even insiders like Friedman and Seravalli thought he had declined outright.
These are easily-accessible facts. The reason you omit them to put some spin on things is obvious.
I'm indifferent having him over Treliving but at least I have my facts straight about why everything happened the way it did. Something a "content creator" should also be doing. You wanna spin conjecture fine. Spinning facts into fiction is just low and is probably one of the many reasons the job was and is so taxing on people. If you gave two shits about him or either franchise you would have done your homework. But let's make a problem out of nothing for clicks instead since that's what the internet is for now.
It's like everyone who covers and comments on these things is a 12 year old wit zero understanding of what it's like to be an adult. And all this "fraud" and similar commentary, sounds like a kid in the back seat crying to their parent when told there isn't any time to stop off for ice cream and the kid cries back "BUT YOU SAID WE WOULD GET ICE CREAM…". First, press conferences aren't taken under oath, second Dubas – whatever his intentions were, shouldn't have held that press conference until he personally had properly regrouped. Unless he wanted an exit strategy and take a Pittsburgh job that he knew was waiting for him. But that's speculation and conspiracy laden. When you suffered a big loss/major disappointment, it takes time to find out what your true feelings are and what your next move should be. Too soon and all you want is for it to all go away. Apparently professional talkers and YT channel guys like to act as if they have always followed exactly every thing that has flowed out of their mouth and never acted in a contradictory way – EVER.
I get what you're saying, but I couldn't disagree more. Given context, very important, what he said is 100% legit.
He explained his decision to leave for Pittsburgh. And the reasoning behind that decision.
Guess what? Pittsburgh will go further in the playoffs next season than the Leafs.
First L take from Johnny hockey
It was a pure power grab by Dubas. If you recall, he also held the team against the wall when he was being looked at as GM of the Leafs. This guy comes across as sincere, but in reality, he's a vicious shark vying for the most power and money he can get.
Peace out? Who with an self respect says that anymore?
If you're fired, you don't own your previous employer anything
agree should not said that he can't be trusted
Dubas was fired he had a contract that ran until June 30 2023
Not a mistake in my opinion. Nobody knew the outcome of the Tor/Fla series, and most likely his continued tenure was predicated on the leafs WINNING. Dubas was a GM – not clairvoyant. Give the kid a break – hes a freshman in a room full of old guard veterans.
Did Dubas ask his mommy if it was OK?
sassy sid ain't got a say in this anymore. bt crew are casual fans
Given how quickly the signing came with Pittsburg I wouldn’t be surprised if he was talking with them before that press conference.
Who cares, he’s got a better job with the penguins. Shanny is an idiot. Another 7 years of pain with the new leafs GM
Stupid discussion.” I don’t have it in me” means now. Tomorrow is a new day. And yes he won’t leave this week… we’ll what the hell do you expect from him, to sleep at the rink? Grow up? Life goes on, it’s just business.
Summary, this is a stupid discussion.oh, and just to warn you, be careful with what politicians, lawyers and weathermen say…
Even worse than this was having his press conference in Pittsburgh before the Leafs introduced Brad Treliving as GM, which had been planned the previous day. That was a clear petty revenge move in my opinion.
I’ve seen it so many times in Football where a guy wants to stay with their organization, has 0 intentions or plans to go elsewhere is fully committed to the fans and the area, but then gets cut or let go or traded by the team and theres nothing they can do as it was the organization who decided to move on not them. You gotta do what you gotta do at that point, you don’t just hang it up if you’re good and you love the game. I don’t blame Dubas at all, seems like he made a last ditch effort to plead he didn’t want to leave the leafs and had no intentions to do so but then he was fired so he had no choice but to look elsewhere and landed with the Penguins. I think if he’s gonna end up anywhere there’s a lot worse places he could have ended up then an organization who was just on the outside of making it to the playoffs. He’s gonna be fine and honestly might be a problem for the leafs and show that it was a mistake to move on from him. If the leafs go massively downhill after this season I think letting Dubas go and if they don’t get some of these contracts right there’s gonna be a lot more tough years ahead for the leafs. I wish Dubas and the leafs both success but it’s a tough business and would not be overly surprised if the leafs lose some top talent and struggle for a few seasons.
There is a lot of love and hate for Dubas right now. I’m more neutral and disagree with both extremes.
I believe Dubas should have been, if he wasn’t, a defacto assistant GM because he was a good hire exclusively for his impressive business managerial skills as well as his ability to communicate with young players. He is excellent in that capacity. But his undoing appears to be he isn’t qualified to make hockey decisions – he has to delegate that aspect of the operations to people who understand the game much better in order to maintain competency in the role.
He leaves the Leafs a model of organizational prowess in terms of a great environment to work in as a player, but due to some poor hockey decisions with respect to personnel and budget allocation, still not a team built to win in the playoffs.
Dubas is business savvy and politically correct…he is one greedy man and I don't understand why he is even wanted…he didn't succeed with anything in Toronto… regular season success does not matter at all… He couldn't get a goalie…the defense is still trash…and I don't think he did enough to make this team great….analytics don't mean anything I'f your not winning…this trade deadline was the biggest he had and he is been GM for a LONG TIME! He lost Hyman, Brown, and other support pieces and traded Kadri… Just alot of bad moves and just replaces them with lesser pieces and gets credit for it? If he was smart he would trade marner and just get alot of pieces back because your going to win the cup with a full team….I mean Chicago explains this all…once the big 5 signed all their deals they stopped winning cups…. Salary cap stable teams win the cup and actually don't go overboard at trade deadline…Teams that I can remember are the Kings with Carter and Gaborik…and maybe I would throw in Col getting Manson and lehkonin but that's not like big names…
Florida didn't really make any big moves and VGK got barbashev and blueguer and quick… so Even with the big Thakcuk trade, no Trade Deadline activity and they are playing in the cup… teams are built within and in the off-season…the trade deadline shouldn't be used to get star players…but ya every year is different I guess….
Dubas is a fool and only fools follow fools.
The only mistake was hiring Dubas instead of keeping Lou Lamariello or hiring Mark Hunter.
Dubas is probably going to feel so much better not having every single word he ever says analyzed, re-analyzed, and carved into stone by the Pittsburgh sports media. Well, Rob Rossi will probably do that. But most Penguins fans seem to (rightly) think Rossi's a headline-chasing buffoon.