Niemann is even more bent than that. He will have a VERY short career. Look at Natalie Gulbis' swing if you get a chance. She did the same thing and has already retired from golf at age 37 but she was having all sorts of back issues for years leading up to that. Our bodies were simply not built to sustain that type of repeated abuse.
I don't know about the others on your list but Sam has never had a lesson in his life. I'm not sure we're he got his swing from being it was 10+ years ago when he started to ingrain this swing. But yes, these limberbacks need to pull back a lil. They'll not last a dozen years without some down time. Great video brother. ⛳❤️👍💯
Weird position he gets into. But the important thing is which way the club is going as it hits the ball and the which way the club face is facing. However you can get it done.
1000% agree! Very effective and successful swing “RIGHT NOW”… I just really don’t see it lasting long term though! It’s great to be young… but at 45… this swing would send me to the ER… immediately!
As a now 30 year old, this comes down to one thing and one thing only that has been overlooked for years by professionals. Each body type can support and requires different biomechanics. Myself I have such fast clearing lower body and upper body that I get open without even trying. So naturally I can either reduce speed and fight my natural biomechanics. Or I go full side bend and play better. The key then becomes simple, I focus on sheer flexibility and taking care of my natural limbo body. That's how swings should be developed, by your actual body type and not what's actually winning on tour. Now over doing it you are right or chasing it artificially can cause problems but so long as you take the time to maintain your body you are better off doing what's natural. Telling guys to slow that hip turn down and eliminating that side bend will happen naturally as they lose flexibility. The mind and body are smart enough to figure it out, hence why There's a reason people come over the top, it's to counter an open face and hit the ball. Obviously this is something you could play with and learn a "power fade" but it all is determined by how much time and effort you want to put in to fix it or counter your mechanics.
Love Sam Bennett, I caught the last few holes of his winning round at the US Am and have followed him ever since, was incredibly pleased to see him do so well at Augusta. But I agree with you, his swing represents a lot of modern trends in conventional golf instruction.
As a lifelong tradesman with many old injuries, the biggest observation I've made is that the traditional/conventional swing taught today has become so convoluted and complex that it's very easy to build a Franken-Swing that leaves you vulnerable to injury. I'm only 28, but have fallen off of roofs, had several hundred pounds of drywall dropped on me, dislocated joints, broken bones and torn tendons – so reducing the strain on my busted-up body is a top priority. Ultimately I went with a very minimalistic single plane swing that allows me to swing smoothly and hit the ball far and accurate, taught by Kirk Junge. The most significant benefit of learning from him is that there is simply no one else teaching his swing online, so I never have to worry about my swing being "infected" by taking bad advice from a well-intentioned instructor teaching the same flawed swing principles as everyone else.
(Personally, I think the conventional golf swing is fundamentally flawed and that the game needs to evolve past it – there is no good reason that it should take an average person several years to learn how to swing consistently. One thing I hear most amateurs frequently talking about when discussing their swing is the desire for it to look good, and they will vex themselves for years trying to figure out how to build a beautiful swing that's actually functional. Swinging on a single plane is not the prettiest way to wield a club, but in my honest opinion the vast majority of people are wasting years of their lives trying to learn a swing that is simply not designed around the limits of the human body.)
Sam Bennett said during the press conference in the masters. I don’t have 190 ball speed and a pretty swing. Hey he put a awesome performance in the masters
This kid had a hot week sort of like a Flash in the Pan.. I predict He will wind up like many many of the tour players not winning anything again. He won't even be around next year.
He's like a mix of early JT and Will Zalatoris and you know what Will is going through right now. A type of swing that works only when you 100% healthy young and athletic if you're off your fitness level by a little this kind of swing will wreak havoc the body fast it already happened to Will and Cam Champ went through few injuries never quite get their mojo back. Completely agreed with Monte about all these young players obsessed over one thing and overdone it to the point it became unhealthy or damaging. I saw so many promising young low amateurs in my country did the same chasing that extreme athleticism, they asking for short careers before they even started. I changed my swing back when I was a 19 year old and dodged the bullet but for completely different reasons.
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I disagree, but I guess that’s where the saying those who can’t do, teach, comes from
great take
Interesting point
Niemann is even more bent than that. He will have a VERY short career. Look at Natalie Gulbis' swing if you get a chance. She did the same thing and has already retired from golf at age 37 but she was having all sorts of back issues for years leading up to that. Our bodies were simply not built to sustain that type of repeated abuse.
I don't know about the others on your list but Sam has never had a lesson in his life. I'm not sure we're he got his swing from being it was 10+ years ago when he started to ingrain this swing. But yes, these limberbacks need to pull back a lil. They'll not last a dozen years without some down time. Great video brother. ⛳❤️👍💯
Tiger called this his o’le swing he had when he was a teenager.
Weird position he gets into. But the important thing is which way the club is going as it hits the ball and the which way the club face is facing. However you can get it done.
He’s never had a lesson, so he just swings this way. No one told him too.
Yes, how long can anyone's back hold up to that much contortion?
Looks painful in slow mo
Holy crap, another Monte.
This seems to be what GG is teaching
1000% agree! Very effective and successful swing “RIGHT NOW”… I just really don’t see it lasting long term though! It’s great to be young… but at 45… this swing would send me to the ER… immediately!
Will Zalatoris, 26, just underwent a lumbar microdiscectomy. . .
As a now 30 year old, this comes down to one thing and one thing only that has been overlooked for years by professionals. Each body type can support and requires different biomechanics. Myself I have such fast clearing lower body and upper body that I get open without even trying. So naturally I can either reduce speed and fight my natural biomechanics. Or I go full side bend and play better. The key then becomes simple, I focus on sheer flexibility and taking care of my natural limbo body. That's how swings should be developed, by your actual body type and not what's actually winning on tour. Now over doing it you are right or chasing it artificially can cause problems but so long as you take the time to maintain your body you are better off doing what's natural. Telling guys to slow that hip turn down and eliminating that side bend will happen naturally as they lose flexibility. The mind and body are smart enough to figure it out, hence why There's a reason people come over the top, it's to counter an open face and hit the ball. Obviously this is something you could play with and learn a "power fade" but it all is determined by how much time and effort you want to put in to fix it or counter your mechanics.
My back hurts just watching swings like this
Zaletoris is out for a year because of this move.
Spot on here
That cross is telling… Amen.
Love Sam Bennett, I caught the last few holes of his winning round at the US Am and have followed him ever since, was incredibly pleased to see him do so well at Augusta. But I agree with you, his swing represents a lot of modern trends in conventional golf instruction.
As a lifelong tradesman with many old injuries, the biggest observation I've made is that the traditional/conventional swing taught today has become so convoluted and complex that it's very easy to build a Franken-Swing that leaves you vulnerable to injury. I'm only 28, but have fallen off of roofs, had several hundred pounds of drywall dropped on me, dislocated joints, broken bones and torn tendons – so reducing the strain on my busted-up body is a top priority. Ultimately I went with a very minimalistic single plane swing that allows me to swing smoothly and hit the ball far and accurate, taught by Kirk Junge. The most significant benefit of learning from him is that there is simply no one else teaching his swing online, so I never have to worry about my swing being "infected" by taking bad advice from a well-intentioned instructor teaching the same flawed swing principles as everyone else.
(Personally, I think the conventional golf swing is fundamentally flawed and that the game needs to evolve past it – there is no good reason that it should take an average person several years to learn how to swing consistently. One thing I hear most amateurs frequently talking about when discussing their swing is the desire for it to look good, and they will vex themselves for years trying to figure out how to build a beautiful swing that's actually functional. Swinging on a single plane is not the prettiest way to wield a club, but in my honest opinion the vast majority of people are wasting years of their lives trying to learn a swing that is simply not designed around the limits of the human body.)
Sam Bennett said during the press conference in the masters. I don’t have 190 ball speed and a pretty swing. Hey he put a awesome performance in the masters
Another will. Here today hurt tomorrow
This kid had a hot week sort of like a Flash in the Pan.. I predict He will wind up like many many of the tour players not winning anything again. He won't even be around next year.
I cant watch him… he is sooooooooo sloooooow. He cant trigger and shoot. Worst than Sergio Garcia was…
The Will Zalatoris effect….
He's like a mix of early JT and Will Zalatoris and you know what Will is going through right now.
A type of swing that works only when you 100% healthy young and athletic if you're off your fitness level by a little this kind of swing will wreak havoc the body fast it already happened to Will and Cam Champ went through few injuries never quite get their mojo back.
Completely agreed with Monte about all these young players obsessed over one thing and overdone it to the point it became unhealthy or damaging.
I saw so many promising young low amateurs in my country did the same chasing that extreme athleticism, they asking for short careers before they even started.
I changed my swing back when I was a 19 year old and dodged the bullet but for completely different reasons.
Zalatoris had back surgery didnt he? In Dallas I believe.
That looks so painful lol