Talking about good guy factor… Fans dont care how good of a guy players are. We are fed up woth lossing. I dont care how nice these guys are, time to get some complete jerks that can win and intimidate the opposition.
The difference between having that 1st round pick and bringing in a $4 something million defenseman with only a year left on his contract is that that 1st could potentially have been that d-man they needed, who would have been dirt cheap for 3 years. Instead, they get a $4+ million player whose value will skyrocket after next season. I understand his qualifying offer is around $5 million. That's bad enough when you compare it to having a defenseman for 3 years on an ELC, but if the Canucks want to keep him for longer than a year, he's going to want a lot more than $5 million and statistically, he's earned it. You can't win with so many overpaid players. And for all those short-sighted people who say you can't blow up a team that has Pettersson, Demko and Hughes on it, the Canucks had Jovo, a 20-goal scoring d-man in Adrian Aucoin, Hedican, Ohlund, a young Naslund and Bertuzzi – oh yeah, and Bure, Mogilny and a 60 point producing Mark Messier in the heart of the Dead Puck Era. None of that mattered. There were rumours of the team being moved to Seattle. So for all those fanboys and fangirls attached to their heartthrobs, I've seen a better Canucks team on paper crash and burn. And that late 90s team actually had a far better overall defence than this team, along with Bure and Mogilny. The Oilers were terrible for years, even with McDavid and Draisaitl. Having Connor put up points didn't matter back then. I thought fans in this city were knowledgeable. The Oilers traded Wayne Gretzky in 1988. 2 years later, they win another cup, without him. I gave up being attached to players as a kid when they dismantled that early 90s team. I grew up.
Canucks organization is trying to appease the few top players on the team by not "rebuilding". In doing so they damage future prospects and successful long term goals. This creates an undesirable destination for other players. Why would anyone want to come to Vancouver? This is a question that is going to be asked for many years to come.
The Canucks will have to make a lot more noise in the off-season at the draft and before July 1st. The lack of player movement at the deadline suggests that they are content to just continue tanking for now and they'll look at trades and buy-outs after this season is over.
I don't understand why Lalji would suggest that we should evaluate the Canucks brass based on what they stated they wanted to do (re-tool rather than re-build). The re-tooling has gone on for so long and the team has 65 regular wins in the last 200 games played! The re-tooling is not going to make this team a cup contender! And if that is the direction the team insists on taking, then by all means they should be heavily criticized for it! Heck, Detroit are only 5 points out of a playoff spot and they are re-building by acquiring a tonne of picks! Why are the Canucks management so afraid to stockpile picks and insisted on trading them away for reclamation projects?
Hughes and Petey are 23 and 24 respectively – let's say a rebuild takes 3-5 years. These guys would be 28 and 29 when that is all done. If the team can contend for a Cup twice before they start declining, I would take that any time over being mediocre for the next five years with no chance of sniffing the Cup…
I think when we find out what Pittsburg was actually offering we're going to find that it really wasn't all that great an offer.
So if you are Pittsburg and all you pick up is Bonino and Granlund you can't be very serious about a run at the cup. I like both those guys in the Penguins line up but they won't make a huge difference If you are serious you'd get Miller and Boeser or maybe Garland that would give you another line with so scoring punch. But either they haven't got enough talent in the cupboards to interest the Canucks in return or they can't make the cap work. PS: signing Boeser and Miller is a 14.5 million cap hit but dropping them both from the line up would be an admission of a rebuilding not a retooling and we know thats not what the team wants.
How long has Detroit been rebuilding, and how has that worked out? Why isn't the media "questioning" them? They're still selling off! "Rebuilding" = "good", I guess, as an article of faith.
donnie wave goodbye to our other first round pick this year……they dont develop anyway they should just trade all pics for whatever it will be more useful than a guy that you draft that never comes here from europe
if the pens offer was as good as people are fantasizing it was they would have done the deal. I'm thinking either the offer wasn't very high picks or they wanted canucks to eat a bunch of salary
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How does this team even have fans anymore? The Vancouver Coyotes
WHY THE FUCK AM I CANUCKS FAN ONFGGGGGGGGG I WANT TO DIE
Please trade MYERS . Even if we have to retain full salary it would be worth it.
no body wants the Canucks bums. Myers, Bowser, Garland, OEL, Miller are going no where
Talking about good guy factor…
Fans dont care how good of a guy players are. We are fed up woth lossing. I dont care how nice these guys are, time to get some complete jerks that can win and intimidate the opposition.
The difference between having that 1st round pick and bringing in a $4 something million defenseman with only a year left on his contract is that that 1st could potentially have been that d-man they needed, who would have been dirt cheap for 3 years. Instead, they get a $4+ million player whose value will skyrocket after next season. I understand his qualifying offer is around $5 million. That's bad enough when you compare it to having a defenseman for 3 years on an ELC, but if the Canucks want to keep him for longer than a year, he's going to want a lot more than $5 million and statistically, he's earned it. You can't win with so many overpaid players. And for all those short-sighted people who say you can't blow up a team that has Pettersson, Demko and Hughes on it, the Canucks had Jovo, a 20-goal scoring d-man in Adrian Aucoin, Hedican, Ohlund, a young Naslund and Bertuzzi – oh yeah, and Bure, Mogilny and a 60 point producing Mark Messier in the heart of the Dead Puck Era. None of that mattered. There were rumours of the team being moved to Seattle. So for all those fanboys and fangirls attached to their heartthrobs, I've seen a better Canucks team on paper crash and burn. And that late 90s team actually had a far better overall defence than this team, along with Bure and Mogilny. The Oilers were terrible for years, even with McDavid and Draisaitl. Having Connor put up points didn't matter back then. I thought fans in this city were knowledgeable. The Oilers traded Wayne Gretzky in 1988. 2 years later, they win another cup, without him. I gave up being attached to players as a kid when they dismantled that early 90s team. I grew up.
Im sure Lazar is thrilled to leave this dumpster fire of a franchise š¤£
Canucks organization is trying to appease the few top players on the team by not "rebuilding". In doing so they damage future prospects and successful long term goals. This creates an undesirable destination for other players. Why would anyone want to come to Vancouver? This is a question that is going to be asked for many years to come.
The Canucks will have to make a lot more noise in the off-season at the draft and before July 1st.
The lack of player movement at the deadline suggests that they are content to just continue tanking for now and they'll look at trades and buy-outs after this season is over.
I don't understand why Lalji would suggest that we should evaluate the Canucks brass based on what they stated they wanted to do (re-tool rather than re-build). The re-tooling has gone on for so long and the team has 65 regular wins in the last 200 games played! The re-tooling is not going to make this team a cup contender! And if that is the direction the team insists on taking, then by all means they should be heavily criticized for it! Heck, Detroit are only 5 points out of a playoff spot and they are re-building by acquiring a tonne of picks! Why are the Canucks management so afraid to stockpile picks and insisted on trading them away for reclamation projects?
Hughes and Petey are 23 and 24 respectively – let's say a rebuild takes 3-5 years. These guys would be 28 and 29 when that is all done. If the team can contend for a Cup twice before they start declining, I would take that any time over being mediocre for the next five years with no chance of sniffing the Cup…
I think when we find out what Pittsburg was actually offering we're going to find that it really wasn't all that great an offer.
So if you are Pittsburg and all you pick up is Bonino and Granlund you can't be very serious about a run at the cup. I like both those guys in the Penguins line up but they won't make a huge difference If you are serious you'd get Miller and Boeser or maybe Garland that would give you another line with so scoring punch. But either they haven't got enough talent in the cupboards to interest the Canucks in return or they can't make the cap work. PS: signing Boeser and Miller is a 14.5 million cap hit but dropping them both from the line up would be an admission of a rebuilding not a retooling and we know thats not what the team wants.
These guys were big fans of Travis Green, is all you need to know about this channel.
How long has Detroit been rebuilding, and how has that worked out? Why isn't the media "questioning" them? They're still selling off! "Rebuilding" = "good", I guess, as an article of faith.
donnie wave goodbye to our other first round pick this year……they dont develop anyway they should just trade all pics for whatever it will be more useful than a guy that you draft that never comes here from europe
Stick to football Farhan you are hopeless as a hockey analyst
1m$ off the cap. Replaceable player. Good move.
Biggest joke about this team is the fan base
if the pens offer was as good as people are fantasizing it was they would have done the deal. I'm thinking either the offer wasn't very high picks or they wanted canucks to eat a bunch of salary