The Golden Knights method of getting to the cup can not be followed because the unique circumstances that followed their expansion and the number of players available combined with the number of teams up against the cap in that year. You won't be able to recreate these same circumstances so just do like I do and hate what happened, be bitter that everyone of our GM's messed up badly for over a dozen years and find our own way to the cup but learn from what we did wrong and practice a little patience.
Given that the mistake of trading for OEL has happened, buying him out is the most logical course of action. Even if you get a ~$1.5-2 million player to replace him, you still have significant cap savings for most years. You have more flexibility and you have the potential to be a better team.
The cap space should be used as leverage to "help" cap-strapped team by taking on contracts that are expiring at the end of the 23-24 season in exchange for prospects and draft picks. Cap space in the current flat cap era is a major asset. Just like the Coyotes fleeced Benning by taking on three expiring contracts – if the Canucks can take on some of these contracts while also picking up prospects and draft picks, some sustainability can actually be built.
And I agree with Craig Button – Alex Mogilny should be a hall-of-famer. To me, the only reason why he is not in is that he had several seasons where injuries really hampered his production and number of games played… but the guy did score 1032 points in his career and had a 76-goal season in Buffalo and had 107 points as a Canuck…
Vegas got some very good players from the entry selection from other teams. Not like the crap and bad contracts that Canucks got. That said they did trade very well. The Canuck’s, not so much.
Buying out OEL was literally the lesser of 2 evils. I'm not going to say that the OEL trade was the worst trade in Canucks history because I'm not a Zoomer who was born yesterday and even though I wasn't a full blown Canucks fan at 4 years old, I heard about the Cam Neely trade several years later.
Since Guenther isn't a hall of famer yet, the Cam Neely trade is by far the worst in Canucks history, since they didn't just lose Cam in that trade for a guy coming off cancer surgery in his shoulder, they lost a 1st round pick who became Glen Wesley, a top pairing defenseman in Boston for many years. It's going to be extremely hard to top that trade. Obviously, the salary cap changes things, but the OEL trade, as stupid as it was, still isn't the worst. They actually got back a top 9 forward in return in the OEL trade, Garland. He's not the top 6 forward that was promised, but getting a top 9 forward back is better than getting basically nothing back in the Neely trade.
Having said that, I think people are minimizing the buyout impact long term. Great, the team has millions of dollars freed up for this year. But if they overspend like they have through 3 regimes now, they won't be able to resign Pettersson, Podkolzin and Hronek.
The job doesn't end if the Canucks magically make the playoffs next season (🤣). The goal is the Stanley Cup and the team has been sacrificing long term success and a Cup for the last decade in order to get 2 home playoff games, with ZERO success. At some point, you have to suck it up, take the medicine and go through the pain. We've gone through 10 years of it already. We'll never get out if the franchise continues to make these short sighted decisions to get back to the playoffs quickly. These accelerated retools almost never work.
Mogilny is the last of the BFM line not in the Hall of Fame… his 92-93 season was insane and he's also a Triple Gold Club member – why are we still asking this question?😢
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Lets just say the OEL buyout is "bittersweet"
The Golden Knights method of getting to the cup can not be followed because the unique circumstances that followed their expansion and the number of players available combined with the number of teams up against the cap in that year. You won't be able to recreate these same circumstances so just do like I do and hate what happened, be bitter that everyone of our GM's messed up badly for over a dozen years and find our own way to the cup but learn from what we did wrong and practice a little patience.
Given that the mistake of trading for OEL has happened, buying him out is the most logical course of action. Even if you get a ~$1.5-2 million player to replace him, you still have significant cap savings for most years. You have more flexibility and you have the potential to be a better team.
Canucks have decently built through the draft. Elias.. Hughes.. Demko.. Boeser.. And Horvat for Hronek.
Let’s be honest OEL goes to a contender plays bottom min and he wins a cup having a decent season that’s how it always gooo’s hahahaha
canadian teams don't get roy and stevenson for 4th and 5th round picks.
Ryan Graves?
The cap space should be used as leverage to "help" cap-strapped team by taking on contracts that are expiring at the end of the 23-24 season in exchange for prospects and draft picks. Cap space in the current flat cap era is a major asset. Just like the Coyotes fleeced Benning by taking on three expiring contracts – if the Canucks can take on some of these contracts while also picking up prospects and draft picks, some sustainability can actually be built.
And I agree with Craig Button – Alex Mogilny should be a hall-of-famer. To me, the only reason why he is not in is that he had several seasons where injuries really hampered his production and number of games played… but the guy did score 1032 points in his career and had a 76-goal season in Buffalo and had 107 points as a Canuck…
The good playoff teams are deep. The Canucks are shallow. Small chance they make the playoffs this year.
Vegas got some very good players from the entry selection from other teams. Not like the crap and bad contracts that Canucks got. That said they did trade very well. The Canuck’s, not so much.
Really stupid how Russian players aren’t invited to the combine
The flames should sign him
The fact that Mogilny never makes the Hall of Fame makes him more famous than most Hall of Famers.
Buying out OEL was literally the lesser of 2 evils. I'm not going to say that the OEL trade was the worst trade in Canucks history because I'm not a Zoomer who was born yesterday and even though I wasn't a full blown Canucks fan at 4 years old, I heard about the Cam Neely trade several years later.
Since Guenther isn't a hall of famer yet, the Cam Neely trade is by far the worst in Canucks history, since they didn't just lose Cam in that trade for a guy coming off cancer surgery in his shoulder, they lost a 1st round pick who became Glen Wesley, a top pairing defenseman in Boston for many years. It's going to be extremely hard to top that trade. Obviously, the salary cap changes things, but the OEL trade, as stupid as it was, still isn't the worst. They actually got back a top 9 forward in return in the OEL trade, Garland. He's not the top 6 forward that was promised, but getting a top 9 forward back is better than getting basically nothing back in the Neely trade.
Having said that, I think people are minimizing the buyout impact long term. Great, the team has millions of dollars freed up for this year. But if they overspend like they have through 3 regimes now, they won't be able to resign Pettersson, Podkolzin and Hronek.
The job doesn't end if the Canucks magically make the playoffs next season (🤣). The goal is the Stanley Cup and the team has been sacrificing long term success and a Cup for the last decade in order to get 2 home playoff games, with ZERO success. At some point, you have to suck it up, take the medicine and go through the pain. We've gone through 10 years of it already. We'll never get out if the franchise continues to make these short sighted decisions to get back to the playoffs quickly. These accelerated retools almost never work.
ALMO is 100% a Hall of Famer.
No way The Hall of Fame votes in a Russian while that "War" is going on.
Sorry Mogilny.. Doesnt look promising!
Alexander Mogilny is well overdue to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
Mogilny is the last of the BFM line not in the Hall of Fame… his 92-93 season was insane and he's also a Triple Gold Club member – why are we still asking this question?😢