Seems like a stark overpayment to me for an RFA that doesn’t even want to be in Ottawa.
CD23tol
Swap Mazur with Zadina to clear a roster space and send it
I can live with āonlyā 9th, 2-2nds and ADB
Just donāt see how we include Mazur dude has lived and breathed Red Wings since he was a kid
Edit: with that said Iām more than willing to give up a similar prospect just hard to see us giving up a kid Draper coached at one point
dontcaredontcaer
Thatās a bit too steep of a price. If that would be the trade Cat better be signed to an extension before the trade is finalized.
Upbeat_Balance2375
Probably won’t be a popular opinion here, but I would make this trade under the condition DeBrincat signs long-term.
Proven goal scorers in their prime don’t come around often and it’s the Red Wings most glaring weakness.
TurdFerguson_PhD
Close. If Ottawa had more leverage here Iād make this deal, but DeBrincat wants out and Steve knows that.
RG6EX
If itās a sign-and-trade letās do it. If itās not I think weāre looking at a different set of draft picks. Iām fine with giving up Mazur, but would ideally want to give up someone like Zadina or Kubalik instead. But if Ottawa is dead set on getting a young prospect, letās just rip the band-aid and get the goal scorer we so sorely need. Making actual hockey trades is kinda like making love. Gotta give some to get some.
SevenStringGod
I think a lot of the leverage is going to come from what other teams are willing to pay (saw earlier this morning that there may be more teams in the mix than the 5-6 on Cat’s list). If that’s the case, then this will probably be pretty similar to what we’d have to give up to make it happen. If we have to compete I’d also be fine throwing in another second, since they’re high second picks.
That being said, Mazur isn’t someone I’d give up right now. Zadina, Kubalik, or Fabbri would be my first preferences, followed by Soderblom or Berggren if they want a younger roster player (although that would mean I’d prefer to defer to Boston’s first next year instead).
Edit to add: I’m assuming this would be a sign and trade. If not, then this is an overpay.
redwingsHELLyea
Naw
abassassasssin
Really think mazur is one of the prospects we wanna keep
Halostar
Not only do I not want to get rid of Mazur, but I don’t think Ottawa wants only prospects in this deal. Mazur doesn’t feel like who they would ask for. Others that have said Kubalik, Zadina, or Berggren are more in line. I also would not want to get rid of this year’s first rounder AND a second rounder. Maybe next year’s first from BOS or two of this year’s second rounders. OR Zadina+17oa.
Ecstatic-Arachnid-91
Way too much for DeBrincat. Mazur I think may not be elite but he’s going to be really good. DeBrincat will be the type of guy who maybe finishes his contract out, no deal on that. I don’t see Stevie Y going for something like that either
leafssuck69
HELL NO
shogun-of-the-dark
No thanks.
Mcenaj
I think itās an over payment. Itās essentially what he was traded for last year, with one less year of team cost control. Last year was coming off a 41 goal campaign, this year 27 goal campaign. Iām ok with any off the particular assets just not all 3. Pick 17, 40 in a stacked draft plus a top 5 Red Wing prospect is more then Iād be willing to pay.
Editā¦. Particularly think itās an over pay since Debrincat has said he would only extend with Detroit or Dallas. Dallas has no first, no 3rd in this years and no 4th next year. Picks will be a premium for them.
Overpayment and a half, no way Stevie does this deal
SpiritBamba
Absolutely horrendous trade that we shouldnāt touch with a 10 ft pole
MajorasShoe
For an expiring RFA that wants out of Ottawa, has a preference for Detroit, and a list full of teams that can’t afford him? lol no.
Kubalik and 17OA, or Zadina, 17OA and a second.
Haterholic
Oh, helllll no!
franstars
I don’t think Mazur will be moved for ADB. He’d be a trade piece in discussion if we got Keller, but not for ADB. 17 + Zadina + a 2nd is probably fair. I think Mazur will be playing middle 6 in the wheel before the season is done once injuries happen.
DetroitRedWings79
Nope
slabby
Fuck no. Absolutely not.
jfstompers
Yeah good players cost good pieces. If you want to argue Debrincat not being that good ok but this we cant possibly trade Mazur take is crazy.
Ordinary_Day6135
Dumb
cutyourhair
The 17th pick in 2023 is value equivalent to the 7th overall last year, the 2nd round picks are a wash. They probably put Mazur in because he was a 3rd round draft pick, not realizing, he’s basically our second best forward prospect. Ottawa would get more in this trade than they paid for him, despite the contract running out and him having a disappointing season.
Not a fan of this trade target anyway, but definitely not for this package.
O_Gardens
Once again, ESPN proves they know nothing about hockey.
Hicketts
Iām all for getting Debrincat but no way they trade a hometown prospect with a ton of upside whoās dream it was to play for the wings
Caltroit_Red_Flames
Lol. Lmao even. Severson gets a 3rd in a sign and trade and now people think we’re going to give up multiple quality assets for Cat?
MemeLordOverKill
If it was 1+2 + Hanas, done deal. If they want mazur, then no 1st. I know he isn’t worth a mid 1st, but I don’t care.
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Seems like a stark overpayment to me for an RFA that doesn’t even want to be in Ottawa.
Swap Mazur with Zadina to clear a roster space and send it
I can live with āonlyā 9th, 2-2nds and ADB
Just donāt see how we include Mazur dude has lived and breathed Red Wings since he was a kid
Edit: with that said Iām more than willing to give up a similar prospect just hard to see us giving up a kid Draper coached at one point
Thatās a bit too steep of a price. If that would be the trade Cat better be signed to an extension before the trade is finalized.
Probably won’t be a popular opinion here, but I would make this trade under the condition DeBrincat signs long-term.
Proven goal scorers in their prime don’t come around often and it’s the Red Wings most glaring weakness.
Close. If Ottawa had more leverage here Iād make this deal, but DeBrincat wants out and Steve knows that.
If itās a sign-and-trade letās do it. If itās not I think weāre looking at a different set of draft picks. Iām fine with giving up Mazur, but would ideally want to give up someone like Zadina or Kubalik instead. But if Ottawa is dead set on getting a young prospect, letās just rip the band-aid and get the goal scorer we so sorely need. Making actual hockey trades is kinda like making love. Gotta give some to get some.
I think a lot of the leverage is going to come from what other teams are willing to pay (saw earlier this morning that there may be more teams in the mix than the 5-6 on Cat’s list). If that’s the case, then this will probably be pretty similar to what we’d have to give up to make it happen. If we have to compete I’d also be fine throwing in another second, since they’re high second picks.
That being said, Mazur isn’t someone I’d give up right now. Zadina, Kubalik, or Fabbri would be my first preferences, followed by Soderblom or Berggren if they want a younger roster player (although that would mean I’d prefer to defer to Boston’s first next year instead).
Edit to add: I’m assuming this would be a sign and trade. If not, then this is an overpay.
Naw
Really think mazur is one of the prospects we wanna keep
Not only do I not want to get rid of Mazur, but I don’t think Ottawa wants only prospects in this deal. Mazur doesn’t feel like who they would ask for. Others that have said Kubalik, Zadina, or Berggren are more in line. I also would not want to get rid of this year’s first rounder AND a second rounder. Maybe next year’s first from BOS or two of this year’s second rounders. OR Zadina+17oa.
Way too much for DeBrincat. Mazur I think may not be elite but he’s going to be really good. DeBrincat will be the type of guy who maybe finishes his contract out, no deal on that. I don’t see Stevie Y going for something like that either
HELL NO
No thanks.
I think itās an over payment. Itās essentially what he was traded for last year, with one less year of team cost control. Last year was coming off a 41 goal campaign, this year 27 goal campaign. Iām ok with any off the particular assets just not all 3. Pick 17, 40 in a stacked draft plus a top 5 Red Wing prospect is more then Iād be willing to pay.
Editā¦. Particularly think itās an over pay since Debrincat has said he would only extend with Detroit or Dallas. Dallas has no first, no 3rd in this years and no 4th next year. Picks will be a premium for them.
[we all know how Yzerman would react to this.](https://youtu.be/fc7EpKV7cvA)
No.
Overpayment and a half, no way Stevie does this deal
Absolutely horrendous trade that we shouldnāt touch with a 10 ft pole
For an expiring RFA that wants out of Ottawa, has a preference for Detroit, and a list full of teams that can’t afford him? lol no.
Kubalik and 17OA, or Zadina, 17OA and a second.
Oh, helllll no!
I don’t think Mazur will be moved for ADB. He’d be a trade piece in discussion if we got Keller, but not for ADB. 17 + Zadina + a 2nd is probably fair. I think Mazur will be playing middle 6 in the wheel before the season is done once injuries happen.
Nope
Fuck no. Absolutely not.
Yeah good players cost good pieces. If you want to argue Debrincat not being that good ok but this we cant possibly trade Mazur take is crazy.
Dumb
The 17th pick in 2023 is value equivalent to the 7th overall last year, the 2nd round picks are a wash. They probably put Mazur in because he was a 3rd round draft pick, not realizing, he’s basically our second best forward prospect. Ottawa would get more in this trade than they paid for him, despite the contract running out and him having a disappointing season.
Not a fan of this trade target anyway, but definitely not for this package.
Once again, ESPN proves they know nothing about hockey.
Iām all for getting Debrincat but no way they trade a hometown prospect with a ton of upside whoās dream it was to play for the wings
Lol. Lmao even. Severson gets a 3rd in a sign and trade and now people think we’re going to give up multiple quality assets for Cat?
If it was 1+2 + Hanas, done deal. If they want mazur, then no 1st. I know he isn’t worth a mid 1st, but I don’t care.
Iād be bummed if they traded Mazur