[Pierre LeBrun] Hearing that Seattle, Toronto and Carolina are among several teams who have chatted with San Jose about Erik Karlsson
As mentioned in here, hearing that Seattle, Toronto and Carolina are among several teams who have chatted with San Jose about Erik Karlsson ⤵️ https://t.co/LcydhjeaPe
— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) June 27, 2023
by tateand99
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If he has a year like 2022-2023, ok I’m into it. But that’s a hearty contract to take on.
have to think seattle would be favorites for this trade too, they can ask for less retained salary than toronto & carolina
I know that in the NFL that trading a guy within the division/conference is often a hindrance to deals getting done; is that a thing in the NHL too, or not so much?
Our first big name free agent signing…..
Make this happen 🤩
We have the draft capital for enough retention to get this contract down to 8 million a year I reckon..question would be if this is the correct use of our cap with guys like Ryker Evans showing they are ready to make the jump?
Ehh. EK is a remarkable player, but I’m comfy with the idea of continuing to build through the draft without landing in the same boat as the cap-strapped also rans.
Also, this will be his retirement stint; let’s not be *that* team.
Based on the track record of Ron Francis, would be shocked if EK is traded here.
No thank you. We need better defenseman not more goal scorers.
If he was younger or cheaper I’d be interested but as is think this isn’t a great idea unless the trade compensation is something insignificant(it won’t be).
for a guy that scored 100 points is having a -26 not concerning for anybody else?
also hes 33, the core of this team is in their early-mid 20’s, doesn’t make any sense to ‘chase’.
I’m on the hoping we don’t do this train. I imagine some pretty important prospects would have to head back to SJ and I’m more interested at this point in seeing them develop over the next few years than taking on this enormous contract.
im a meh
Reposting what I said in the /r/hockey thread on this report…
The concerns I have are not about this year as much as years 2-4 of Karlsson’s contract. Driedger is in his final contract year, so moving him doesn’t solve anything beyond that. If Karlsson had 1 year left the discussion would be entirely different.
In general I see people wanting Seattle to follow Vegas’ model and go big game trad hunting immediately. Trading for Karlsson would be in that line of thinking but I don’t agree that’s what Seattle should do.
Vegas took the path they did because they went to the Final in year 1 and also both the protection lists and side deals offered by other teams were way dumber than what Seattle dealt with. Vegas had 3 1st round picks in their first draft thanks to those side deals, while Seattle only had one. Vegas wound up using those players (Glass, Suzuki, Brannstrom) in trades to bring in players like Pacioretty and Stone. I’d argue none of those players is as good as Matty Beneirs. Beniers was an impact player from the moment he stepped on NHL ice.
Vegas’ Cup window is based on expansion guys like Karlsson and Marchessault plus acquired guys like Stone, Eichel, and Peitrangelo. That’s an older group and it makes sense for them to trade significant futures for the here and now to maximize that core. That’s how they won the Cup.
Seattle’s Cup window is based on Beneirs and possibly Shane Wright. Why should we trade futures to go all-in now when our future stars are 20 and 19? It doesn’t make sense for our long term roster building. If we can find guys in their mid-20s who will still be good when our young guys hit their primes, absolutely let’s go get them. But I don’t want to be giving up significant futures for guys already in their 30s who won’t be around when our core is ready.
Don’t do it Ron! Don’t chase EK65. He is so good and very expensive. Apparently his teammates like him in the locker room. I have watched many of his games with the sharks.
He is not worth the money.. San Jose didn’t do well once he joined. Ottawa was not doing well while he was there. I have a theory that his teammates relax a little when he is playing. They relax just enough to give the other team a slight edge.
EK is a great player. But I don’t think the Kraken need him.
I wonder what the return would be? Borgen or Schultz would have to be going back, maybe Driedger as a cap dump?
I dont want this. Not because i dont think hes good but because we’re gonna overpay for the tail end of his career. Hes unlikely to repeat this performance, and hes a bit of a liability on the actual defensive side. I genuinely think Seattle is better off making very little waves in FA and trading. Do what they did last year and i think theyre more than capable of another deep run. Clearly balling on a budget is a strength of this front office. Noone makes over 6 million right now. Likely to change with Dunn but they have cap space to play with, which means they could make the same kinds of moves last year, get even better and stay out of cap hell long enough to also resign Matty end of next year without making massive sacrifices.
It depends entirely on what the market is like. I wouldn’t give up major assets to bring him in but if they’re just trying to dump him like how we got bjorky could be a reasonable move
Please no.
He would certainly help fix one of our biggest issues (PP, almost even with F/O wins). Having a Norris Trophy winner with 100 points is also never a bad thing, but many problems with this:
* His recent form is only one season of evidence, one in which he is clearly motivated to play well to be a valuable trade option to get out of SJ – if he plays shit no teams want him and he’s stuck in a rebuild with a .400 team for the rest of his contract
* Injuries / age obviously a concern
* We also can’t have it both ways in the trade, we can’t expect SJ to eat a large part of Karlsson’s contract AND keep all our young prospects. Either shipping someone like Ryker Evans or Jagger Firkus as part of the deal or paying the full 11.5 are both very unappealing