Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the deals made between the Pittsburgh Penguins and both G Tristan Jarry & D Ryan Graves. What do we think of the Penguins moving forward.
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36 Comments
This makes me feel like I'm watching guys who don't now nothing about other players than leafs… Saying that Graves would get 2mil?!?!? 6 years is a lot but 4.5 is fine especially when Holl and Soucy got 3+ and term.
as a pen fan I love the Graves deal a bit to long tho and the Jarry deal should of been 3 but I think the money is right and the only signing I question is why Eller is getting over 2 Mill but other then that I like the moves
That Jarry signing may be a huge mistake. Not loving that deal at all
Dubas L
You guys need to do research on Ryan Graves
Do not talk about a player you obviously don’t know. Graves was always making over 4×4 no doubt most places said 5×5. Good on the Avs and great with the Devils this is just foolish talk at the end
Honestly PIT only has a chance to be good for like another 3yrs till 87/71 retire. After that who cares? Graves can be the tank commander
My guys Graves is going to help us win. He’s a top 4 defencemen. 4.5 is fine he’s young. It’s like the Pettersson deal for pens and he’s a good guy for us. I usually like what you guys say but my god you are all way off the mark here. The deal is actually really good.
I know I didn't just hear a leafs fans complain about a player making 5 million AAV ☠️
Worst move of free agency jarry sucks
He played 1 game in 1920… lol these guys are the worst.
Pens will finish last this year. Crosby malkin and letang will hit the wall this year there old
dubas hasnt signed anyone to a legitimately bad contract. jarry isnt bad. it might be a tiny bit pricey but it's not bad at all. did the guy texting steve not look at yzerman, proving again that he's awful at his job and an overhyped fraud?
keep sleeping on graves btw. dude is very solid on a 2nd pair
Might be biased thru my perspective as a Pens fan, but I have no idea why you guys think Graves deserved $2m. I’m shocked a bit by the term but I do not think Dubas overpaid him at all. He probably would have gone to somewhere else for a bit more honestly, and while he isn’t elite he definitely is a big improvement over Dumoulin. Not insanely confused about the signing whatsoever
And as for Jarry, I legit have no idea where else we would have gotten goaltending from. Like I’m super concerned about injuries for how much we paid him, but like I said, what’s the other option? Gibson’s from Pittsburgh and some people might be happy about him being traded here but his cap hit is worse than Jarry’s and he underperformed even in Anaheim, and Hellebuyck is asking for like $10M. What other free agent or tradable goalies would we even be able to land that have a ceiling as high as Jarry’s?
The only good thing is that they signed 4 goalies . This is a sign that they are not confident about jarry.
These guys are clueless on Graves
Jarry is a career .914 sv%. And his playoff sample size is 8 games. He needs to be kept healthy, that's about it.
Man u guys are not that good at your jobs if you think graves is only worth 2 mil lmfao
Dubas continues to have questionable choices when it comes to signing goaltending…
Jarry is a two-time all-star, and had injury issues because the Pens have some idiot defensemen who like to run attacking forwards into them. Both he and DeSmith have been injury prone due to their own players doing that to them.
A part of the issue is that Jarry played a lot of games injured because the team really didn't have anyone else. DeSmith and Tokarski couldn't play well enough to taking the starting spot.
The Graves signing is, obviously, the Vegas effect… Just like the Draft, there's a premium for big, beefy defensemen.
Jarry is good. He’s just been unhealthy for the back half of several seasons. He’s got the Freddie Anderson problem of not having a backup. Now pens are 3 deep in goal and maybe it’s better.
Long term deals for the penguins is also trade fuel for the rebuild. Crosby, Malkin, and Letang have 3? 4 years left? Gotta have pieces to trade for picks at the end of this.
As an avs fan I was sad to see Ryan Graves go stellar defenseman at +34 +/- was reliable in his own end with solid offensive numbers and potential I would take him over ever defenseman on the leafs beside Morgan Riely.
Dubas didn’t say he wanted to extend jarry. He said that he was gonna evaluate the goaltending market, talk to the pens goaltending coach, Mike Sullivan then make the decision. Obviously based on the market there wasn’t anyone better than jarry. Andersen? Wasn’t leaving Carolina. Korpisalo? Dude has never been a starter and didn’t come much cheaper than jarry. The pens know what they have from jarry and when he has been healthy he has been good.
SMH at your takes on the graves signing too.
Dubas is the Oprah of the NHL. 😂
Wow..just wow. Jarry AND Graves signings. Oof…
Jarry is wayy to inconsistent and gets injured too much terrible move!!!😡
You guys are very misguided on Ryan Graves. Fancy stats guys say he is a solid two way, top four D man. The term is a little long, but with where Pittsburgh is competitively I’m not concerned. And someone else probably wanted him, hence the long term. 4.5 AAV is nothing for a top four D man. Ryan Graves is good, man. Fancy stats guys like him.
Jarry isn't one of his guys or someone Dubas said he wass going to extend him at any point. All Dubas said at his press conference was that he was going to speak to the staff, tristan, and evaluate him against the market. Also, the contract structure is set up so that the base salary hit, especially with the cap increasing, that could be moved by year 3/ 4 if you had to.
Graves was also making $3.3 million on the deal he was coming off of, I have no idea where you came from guessing $1.5 or 2 million like at least google his contract history before hand.
You don’t watch bockey
As a pens fan, Jarry is 100% worth the money and is gonna rip it up next year
I get why everyone is concerned about Jarry's health, but I don't hate the deal as much as everyone. What other options did the Penguins have? I don't see any other goalies available via FA or trade that was a clear upgrade other than Hellebuyck. Pens weren't paying what Hellebuyck wants for an extension ($10-$11 mil range from what I heard on the NHL channel). I rather they swing for the fence and get Karlsson if they can. Crosby is only signed for 2 more years, and my gut says he won't play too much longer because I've read that he wants to start a family. They should do everything they can to try to win the next few years, even if they pay the price after Crosby retires.
Jarry can't stop a beachball when it matters. Dubas is an idiot! He will destroy the Penguins. Sid should just retire now and save himself the forthcoming embarrassment.
Ryan Hextall lol