Kyle Dubas’ 24-hour makeover of the roster … leaves more to be desired, for sure
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Jarry shouldn’t have been resigned
Great show DK! The Jarry deal was the best possible option. Going after Ullmark or Helleybuck would've cost us too much. Other than those two – Jarry was a better option than anyone else. If you are all in to try to win a cup in the next two years – who would be a better option than Jarry? A better backup will help Jarry. Yes, it is a bet but I think this has Sully's fingerprints all over this. The term probably had to do with other bidders and the AAV is number #12 among other goalies which is fine. Jarry is a stand-up guy and he is still one that can continue to improve.
I am with you on Eller! The non-melancholy Dane! An upgrade at #3 center. A great two-way character player. You are also right that he will be strong on the PK. So what did Dubus do? Long-term: He kept the #1 draft pick and picked up 3 or 4 guys for the AHL. This is super helpful for the long-term. Short-term: Dubus said it was win-now and all of the rest of the moves are win-now. What an infusion? 11 new contracts into the system! The core is still the same and there's still time to deal with Petry, Granlund, Ruuta, and of course the great and beloved Jeff C.!!! 80 days or so to go until camp so look for 4-5 more moves!
Jarry will be better because this team is being built with an actual plan unlike last year.
For me the Jarry issue is simple: Who were the alternatives who were better? Ullmark or Helleybuck were the only upgrades possible. I disagree with you that DeSmith is better than Ned. You are right that Ned's stats in Detroit (horrible -D) were horrific but his stats in Carolina (.922-ish and .932-ish) in their great system were great! Yes, Jarry is definetly tradable if needed! Great take on that – thanks for your common sense about it not being a problem moving on from Jarry if they need to.
Betting on Jarry is super risky, I hope it pays off….
Jarry's physical talents are immaterial, he's never available
I like these moves. Jarry was the best available goalie, especially for the price (and I was also hoping for goaltending change, but realistically, there wasn't many viable options). Would you rather jarry or Murray?
I have a good feeling about Lars as well, but I think people are still shell shocked about how Carter has unraveled. Glad we sured up the pk and the defensive end of our bottom six. This makes us harder to play against and should allow us to close out games better. Plus I like smith as the zucker replacement. He should do well here.
A lot being made of Karlsson but I can't see that due to salary and term. I can see Carolina shipping Pesce and prospects to SJS for Karlsson. If that happens I would think SJS look to ship Pesce out. Could you see something happening with the Pens working a trade that sends Petry, a prospect like Poulin, and a pick out for Pesce?
Let's just hope Jarry realizes the faith (misplaced or not) that Sullivan has in him and plays like a goalie deserving of at least what this contract says he is, because if they are only a month into the season, and people are unhappy with his performance, those boos that will be raining down won't be for him, but the person who backed his signing. There's no Hextall to blame anymore, and Dubas will still be new enough that he hasn't yet figured out the best commute to beat the traffic to the arena. This and a lot of things with this team that have remained constant through three GM's now will be a direct reflection moving forward of Sullivan and his influence on roster decisions. Regardless of the FO personal, this is either Sullivan's fix, or his mess. You know why there hasn't been a GM hired or even hinted at yet? Because they already have one in Sullivan. Whoever eventually does get hired will be a token GM in title only who will cater to the whims of Sullivan and Dubas. A glorified button pusher.
Maybe Saudi Arabia will start a new hockey league and force Bettman to raise the cap.
Why did my other comment get autodeleted? Wasnt swearing and didnt link anything…god I hate social media
BTW: No talk of Granlund's status? Are we now happy with him staying on? The consensus talk that he would be bought out fell on deaf ears with Dubas, and now that's ok with everyone? Isn't $5 mill a year and another $3.1 mil a year in Carter too much for 3rd, let alone 4th liners? Especially for one who's skills don't fit the requirements that those bottom 6 roles generally denote, and another too old to do more than take a face off and head to the bench? Let's hope there's much more to be done, like packaging Granlund and Petry to a team for another also burdensome contract that is actually a fit for what the Penguins could use. It's not the recent additions that I have a problem with, it's the players that are still here that need to go.
Had no idea Nedeljkovic was that bad…
Jarry is a 2 time allstar at 5.5 mil. For what is out there and what other goalies got, that is a steal. He is at as much fault as crosby for how historically had the bottom six and some of the d men were. It was non stop shelling when 2 of the 4 lines were out there. And still he had points were he was great this year. Overall around average. But if we were getting this same goalie from a different team we would be jumping up and down.
Why does everyone look at bob from florida with googly eyes….he makes double what jarry does and did almost nothing until this year in the post season and still no ring. We have a guy with as much talent at half the price, if he can be healthy this is a game breaker. But everyone wants some other teams potential and not their own.
Prediction: were pissed jarry got resigned now, but he ends up with serious competition from either Ned or someone else.
I think Eller's game has fallen off in recent years and statistical analysis and possession metrics don't lie. He's been a bit rough in recent years and is definitely a fading player. I would have loved Eller 4 years ago. As you said, he's never been the point guy, but look at the rest of his stuff. I really thought they would have addressed 3C in a bigger way.
I see Jarry as the best that they could have done. The contract as fair considering everything and how good he can be and has been at times. The injury stuff is there, but it's a bit overblown. Would like to see him have some more playoff success before a contract like that was offered, but it is what it is. DeSmith should be the backup. Ned sucks and I can't believe he was signed. What a waste in my opinion.
The bottom six depth were all nice signing. None of those guys are world beaters offensively, but they shouldn't bleed goals or be a black hole. They're all very defensive minded and responsible forwards.
Confused with the Jarry singing 5yrs for a ridiculously inconsistent and often injured goalie?
Very happy ,Dubas did great job they are a better tea. Than last yr bottom 2 lines play defense Smith,Graves,Ellers,Accari,Nieto,extra goalie Jarry most talented goalie out there rest FA goalies were injury prone also Jarry 2 time Allstar.I remember 2006,2007 People wanted to give up Fluery then back to back Stanley Cup Finals
COOKIE!!!
Get a hit..
Get a scoring chance…
Get an o-zone face off for Sid
Rinse and repeat!!!
Sorry, Jarry has proven to me he is NOT a big game player. We will need big game performance frome our goaltending, and he hasnt shown that at all. Big mistke in my eyes
I love the Lars Eller signing too. Hated him as a Cap, but I think he and Acciari change the identity of wherever they fit into the bottom 6. Acciari hits anything that moves.
Why 5 yrs why does it seem Jarry had the leverage AT MOST 3 yrs
I agree that there was no choice re Jarry. Sometimes there just are not better options. That doesnt mean that Jarry couldnt shine next season or another goaltender wont show up as unlikely as that seems. I think it will be helpful if Jarry had some help in net…as in having players around him who can clear the crease and not allow him to get run over all the time..Maybe he wouldnt be injured so much? He's been on his own..it's a team sport.
I’ll become a subscriber if connor hellebuyck gets a 10 mil contract. It’ll be more 7 to 8 mil
Jarry is a pylon. SOS with Pens mgt.