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The Erik Karlsson Trade Talk (2023 Sharks)



Now that NHL teams can resume making trades it’s time for the difficult conversation with Sharks fans, and a trade of Erik Karlsson.

0:00 Sooner equals better
3:10 A unique situation here
4:43 How much will the Sharks retain?
6:31 Which teams could fit Karlsson under the cap?
8:08 Timing couldn’t be better
9:44 Flexibility is the acquisition

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14 Comments

  1. When Jumbo was on fire just before he tore his ACL/PCL Joe Pavelski and some rookies came together and played as a team that made it to the playoffs. Personally I don’t think Karlsson is a team player like Pavs was. This is better for everyone if EK65 gets a fresh start elsewhere.

  2. Penguins now have the option to buy out Granlund or Petry (since Drew O'Connor filed for arbitration yesterday) to open up a good chunk of 5 (Granlund) / 6.25 (Petry) million respectively. So there are options for them to make it happen. Likely it would be Granlund, since Kyle Dubas has said that Petry is "a big part of their plan going forward", although that could mean he plans on moving him as well.

  3. The absolute single most overrated player in Sharks history, maybe even the league. Doug Wilson ruined this team

  4. David Quinn said that he and his coaching staff did a deep dive into why the team was letting in so many goals. I think the time period was January and February. The coaching staff concluded that it was partially due to the Sharks inability to bring the puck out of their own zone. I always thought that EK65' strength was doing just that. EK65 was a defenseman who was a liability on defense – unlike Burns or Doughty. Furthermore, I haven't been able to really see the momentum-changing impact that he has on the game as compared to Jumbo, Burns, or Pavelski in their prime.

  5. Erik Karlsson is an entertaining p[layer who sells tickets and yet also proof that the NHL collective agreement regarding contract terms (8 years) and maximum/minimum salaries has to be re-negotiated for the collective good of the players and owners. With a salary cap of about $85 million, the average player salary should be close to $3.5 million per year or in the range of $3 to $5 million per year. All of the star players being paid over $10 million per year are really using their status to exploit their lesser known team mates who get the NHL minimum $770,000 and increasing their numbers in the lower ranks of their teams. So the more star players you have hogging a higher than average share of the salary cap, the more de-moralized and exploited lower status near minimum salary players you will also have.

    Extreme salary inequality in a team sport is traditional inertia perhaps, but a better collective agreement would give more players a decent salary around $3 million per year and give team elders and leaders only about $5 million. It is good that the teams share the playoff winning money equally I believe, but that is much smaller bonus payout than annual salary for all. The unequal salaries are negotiated under the collective agreement rules and with some free market provisions but it isn't working as we see buyouts or star players like Karlsson being shuffled off due to salaries that don't fit the team plan any more.

    A higher minimum salary rate and lower maximum salary rate under the salary cap system would make more teams look like the Seattle Kraken in their salary distribution which is the most egalitarian in the NHL. A more equal range of NHL salaries for roster players wouldn't be communism but a much more sensible policy for the many players who get hurt pursuing their pro hockey dreams or struggle and fade away too quickly. It is a team game without a proper team salary structure or system of fair rewards/punishments, so it remains unjust from an economic point of view to continue the tradition of extremely unequal salaries which produces the need to trade stars who get paid too much and circumvent the cap with retained salary moves.

  6. So I wonder how a "no-trade option" player trade works. Like, which is the chicken which is the egg? Do they go to the player and ask him (or his agent) which teams he would consider as the first step? Or do they make a deal then talk to the player? It seems like all the work and negotiations could all blow up and come to nothing.

  7. sharks would be the 4th worst team with or without ek65 last season. the season he had is like the nhl version of stat padding. its amazing how you could have 100 points and barely make an impact

  8. They already have about $5m in dead cap from the Jones and Burns contracts for the next few years. If not for that, I think they might be okay with retaining more salary, but that definitely plays a factor

  9. Its looking like its going to be the Pens that gets EK. Dubas wants to make even more of a splash than he already has in Pittsburgh and sounds super motivated to get it done.

  10. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still a Shark and traded next summer when the cap goes up.

  11. "Sooner the Sharks can make thus happen, the quicker they can move on."

    No? Really? That statement seems a bit redundant.

  12. David Quinn can’t buy a break. He was fired from the Rangers, and now the Sharks need to trade their best player.

  13. Crosby Malkin ,Letang want a real shot of winning one more cup before they retire. EK would certainly give the Penguins a better chance .

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