Ultimate ARROW Build.. Tim Connor goes through the full arrow build process from top to bottom. Josh Jones @podiumarcher3447 gives a few pro tips from his lessons learned in the shop through the years. This is a complete custom arrow build from start to finish. #archery #3darchery
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Got to shoot my first actual scored 3D event this weekend, it was a blast. Have a great week and get out and shoot your bow ✊🏹
Is it AAE mini max, Arizona ez fletch mini max? What's the relationship there?
I run a 4 fletch GT velocity for 3D using Q2i fusion X2 vanes. I get asked all the time at shoots why I use that setup. My reply “because it looks cool “ 😂
Def try a four fetch! You don’t know if you don’t give it an honest try! Tournament archers like it because they have an additional clocking location for a flyer while group tuning. Just keep it around 2”.
And lighter is better to maintain FOC.
I'm shooting an 18% foc as well. Rip xv 300 spine. Total weight is 415
What string do you have in Tim cause strings do have a big part of that I just did testing on that with a bow today
Your selection of video topics is right on and well presented every time. I love making my own arrows from scratch.
Try the Bohning low temp melt. It’s the blue one. I can’t believe u didn’t clean the carbon dust out of the shaft with like 91% alcohol.
Bohning X-Vane 1.75 for 4 fletch!!
I have used the 4 fletch configuration for a couple of years. I use Bohning Heat 2.6 and Fusion Q2i 2.1 vanes
Definitely build a 4 vane for MFJJ! Look at the TAC Matrix 2.25's…also in my experience ABB's always clock right, every other string I have used clocks left (GAS, Zebra, 60X), all out of the same bow. Not sure if that is the same for everyone, just what I have experienced.
Have you, or MFJJ, noticed if the silent knight vanes get loud, or louder, once you fletch them with helical vs straight? And would you recommend them for a hunting arrow setup? With fixed or mechanical broadheads? Just trying to not make and fletch several dozen different arrows for daily practice, 3D, and hunting setups
4 vanes are stupid…Josh is right Tim, you're wrong…Hope this helps! Lol 😂
Awesome video! Do you just always have your ATV in the back of your truck? Or do you only film after you've been riding? Hyperfocused minds want to know lol
I see you wearing that Froning Farms shirt. 😉
Bought my first bow back in March and purchased a dozen rip gamer shafts and couldn’t have been happier with the quality and consistency. Keep up the great content!
Still shoot some 480 spine broodline i bought with blazer vanes 29 in . Only have 27 draw and shoot 50 lb on a 2012 bear legion. Have alot of fun with a blackgold 3 pin ascent whitetail hunter and a 10 in. Fuse carbon stabilizer . Still shoot a whisker biscuit its fun . Have teied making my on arrows. Got the cutting and square but wish i could remember what the insert was. Since you can still buy 400 and 480 spine easton bloodline arrows for practice. All weight of arrow is around 360 gr.
Sweet Build! I just got a RAM spine tester part in that will let me finish filming my black eagle build 😎Planned to film some broadhead tuning with the FOCOS system, but it is kinda a "redundant step" now because I couldn't wait to shoot my broadheads and they fly great regardless!
However I'm skeptical that the FOCOS system may be weak like the rip tko stock components (if you check my vid I show a deadspace in the outsert.. would love to know you and MFJJ's opinion on it).. you definitely got my wheels turning on the podium components for my next build!!
what camera do you use?
This is more a question for Josh I guess, but why can't we just buy all the arrow parts "a la cart", since Tim is using a different insert than what comes with the shafts that was a complete waste of money. Same with nocks, if I prefer to use pin nocks and I choose different nocks than what comes with the shafts. Victory even has several different inserts available but I don't see where they allow you to order shafts with the inserts you want and nocks you want.
Good build! Almost my exact process except I score the inside of the shaft with a bore brush and the outside of the halfsert with sandpaper. Then clean both with acetone before hotmelt gluing. A little extra confidence for me. I would recommend the AAE Pro Max Vanes for your 4 fletch build. I love them for 3D! Thanks for the good content Tim!
Good video, try some flex fletch FFP-175’s (3.1grains each). I use one stringer wraps in the 4” range, so easy to take off if needed. Heavy up front, 60yds spot on. This is in the Midwest, but it would be neat to see how they would do for you guys out west. I’m currently at 22-24%foc.
I've run 4 and 6 (gasp🙊) for the 4 ive run, TAC, and bohning x3 1.75 and 2.25 which are actually lower profile than the 1.75. for 6 ive run the AAE plastifletch 1.6 and thats lighter than 3 max stealth. Once the arrow is spinning there isn't really a slow down difference from 1-5° . As long at the tip is pulling the arrow (FOC) i haven't noticed a large difference in impact point as long as the vanes are appropriately sized to the configuration. Ie more smaller vanes vs fewer larger vanes. The TAC vanes do drag less and give you a couoke more yds at longer distance, they are by far the hardest to fletch consistently
Cool vid Tim, got any tips on how to store the fletching glue? Specially the Bob smith and aae max bond? The tips always get super clogged for me
Great job guys….and great advice josh….you guys rock
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Good luck with the ALC . I just did both hind legs on my 5 yo GSP this last winter
Everytime you shoot an arrow, it looks like it surpises the heck out of you hahaha
When aligning the nock with the helical fletch, is it aligned to the front or the rear vane?
I just got a dozen of the same arrows and same inserts. Was kinda bummed after spending that much to find out my 125 grain qad exodus broadheads don't fit. Will probably have to go down to the 100 grain ones.
Thank you for sharing this great information
i shot blackeagle zombieslayers with my starter setup and they have been the best and just unbreakable arrows i had. Can't shoot with them anymore because they are too short for my current setup and i can't find them anywhere in my country or anywhere nearby without paying the same amount for shipping as 12 shafts 😢
Good video
Build the 4 with aae mini vanes.mess with mfjj.
Timothy – really enjoy your channel all the way down here in GA. You and I use a lot of the same equipment. This isn’t related to arrows but more technique. One of the archery gurus down here in Georgia is a guy named George Ryals or GRIV”. Anyway he’s posted several ATA speeches on YT. This one in particular REALLY improved my shooting with MY truball honey badger claw flex and I thought it might help you out too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ftkL5GcXE&t=695s&pp=ygUQZ2VvcmdlIHJ5YWxzIGF0YQ%3D%3D
There are several others too just YT search George Ryals ATA, There’s even some nuggets in the video he posted for arrow building with LCA saw.
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Hey Tim. I saw you went with 250 spine? I went with 300 according to victory website with an 80 lb draw and 27.5 inch arrow shaft. I hope I’m not underspined. What’s your draw weight?
I used 4 bohning x3 vanes on my recent RIP TKO build since they're 2.25" x .38" with a 3° left helical on my LCA jig. They fly great with a broadhead!
On my RIP XV Elite arrows, I used Easton Axis HIT inserts with Bob Smith Industries glue, and Gold Tip ballistic collars with hot melt glue, with 125 grain field points, giving my 27" long arrows a 15% F.O.C. I've got them fletched with 2.5" Bohning HEAT vanes fletched with the most helical I can get from a Bitzenberger jig with an upgraded AAE nock receiver. I'm only a 26.75" draw. Shooting 50 yards the other day with these arrows from my Solution SS, I put a 1/2" group right in the 10-ring with open sights (no lenses anywhere).
Tim, it's "cyano-acrylate" (6 syllables). LOL!!
Awesome video as always sir 👍 Tac vanes are awesome I use the aae primer pen and glue with the rip TKOs and have never had a issue with vanes not sticking or coming off ever, I’m also a fan of the 4 fletch, I get a few extra yards out of my sight tape and if you send one through the target and fold a vane all you have to do is get a little heat on it with your breath or whatever and 80% of the time it straightens right out
Love those RIP TKO’s
Love the content and how it is presented along with the knowledge the MFJJ brings. I also like the dabbling in New things that you are providing.
I have shot both 3 and 4 fletch Arrows over the past 3 years. I really like the bohning X vanes 2.25 inch. They are light and adhere very well to 5mm Arrows.