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As far as my take on Tortorella from a pure hockey nerd kinda perspective, there's one worry I have. And one thing I'm excited about.
My Worry) Tortorella is a believer in the 2-1-2 forecheck.
When the Flyers were having success under AV in that first year, they were playing a 1-2-2 forecheck. Clogging the neutral zone. Winning battles in the neutral zone. And pushing play up ice.
In the playoffs, inexplicably, they abandoned the 1-2-2 and went to a 2-1-2. That was when the collapse really began. Now, this isn't me saying that a 2-1-2 can't work. Of course it can. It's one of the most popular schemes in the league for a reason.
But I do wonder if it works with our current group.
In the 2-1-2 system, you're really relying on F1 and F2 to create havoc in the offensive zone and force turnovers in the offensive zone. The forwards for the Flyers, by and large, have shown no such proclivity for forcing turnovers with unrelenting pressure.
Now, does that change under Torts? It might!
We can nerd-out about this all day long. But the truth is that any system can work in the NHL if the players are committed to that system.
That's Tortorella's job here. Identify who we have that can play in the 2-1-2 and the rest of his system. And convince his players that it's the best way to go.
It's also worth noting that Tortorella is an honest to God believer in the 2-1-2. And teaches a variation of it that's even more aggressive in nature. He wants F1 and F2 pressing harder than AV did. Much harder. He wants his F1 in particular to swarm the puck carrier.
AV and his coaching staff played a very passive variation in which our F1 and F2s were basically cones on the ice.
My reason for excitement) ROVERS
Tortorella, especially in Columbus, is a huge proponent of defensemen jumping up in the play and joining the rush. Even leading the rush. He believes, in today's NHL, the best defense is unrelenting offensive pressure. And to have that, it needs to be a 5 man effort.
I want to see Provorov going end-to-end again. I want to see him doing between the leg toe drags to beat a defender wide. For analytics people, he was in the 85th percentile at creating controlled entries in 18-19 AND 19-20. I want to see THAT Ivan Provorov.
It's what made Sannheim have such a good year. And I want to see it by Ivan. Fueled by the breakout passes of TDA, of which he is a master at.
I want to see York jumping in the play and leading the rush either with his feet or with a pass.
We have all these puck movers on the blueline.
If I want to see ANYTHING from Torts, I want to see that.
Play defense by defending less. This is how you do it. Keep the puck from the other team.
Like Wade's energy. No idea if that can wake up some of the deadheads on the bench just sitting there chewing their mouthpiece. We're looking at you JVR
Coots should step up take the C there's no one else
And Ryan Ellis my God are you gonna play or not stop this mystery this is such a big blow this guy needs to stop being so quiet JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING !!!
I feel torts will have flyers playing better defense and toughness back to flyer
Team work
I say by third year we’ll see flyers be playoff team but final seed
Until coaching staff and medical staff and better draft flyers won’t get better
They need another lindros star power
I feel players quit the. Get rid of them
I feel torts is going to pair York with provy
Risto and sanhiem
Tony with Braun
Love how the Philly faithful think Tortorella is going to bring back the BBB's of the distant past. It's comical!
Couts gets the "C". Atkinson & Laughton get the "A". Hayes is on-deck if one of the others gets injured.
I'm not the angry mob type for the most part, but even if things click with the team, I see them as a maybe round one win.
I feel like best case scenario is watching another year of middling, mediocre hockey, which is what I've been watching since 2013.
I just thought we'd farther along than this by now.
I'm not completely without hope for some of the young guys, but I don't see any of them as the high end talent we know they need.
Like I said, I just thought we'd be somewhere after a decade