https://canucksarmy.com/news/matt-dumba-short-term-rhd-solution-canucks-looking
I get why you’d want an upgrade on the right side, but there are two key flaws here:
1. Roget seems to assume that moving Beauvillier or Garland is relatively easy. Its abundantly clear at this point that teams will need to pay a pretty high price to move wingers with that kind of salary.
2. There should now be enough prospects on the cusp of maturity that one of them will be serviceable.
But maybe I’m wrong?
ETA: darn typo of Roget!
by KoalaOriginal1260
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Link’s broken, you accidentally added a ‘q’ to the end.
I’m not sure we could afford him..
Matt Dumba played top pairing minutes on a playoff team as a RHD and is in his prime age. He’s not going to be cheap, and if he is cheap on a one year deal it means buying cap space in the form of paying assets to dump a winger contract to get a one year upgrade at defense we likely can’t afford to keep moving forward.
If we were expected to challenge for the cup this would be a great idea, but as a team that isn’t close there’s no reason to chase a trade that sacrifices futures for a one or two year push to be mediochre+.
Beauvillier is probably somewhat easier to move than Garland, due to the differences in remaining term.
Kind of difficult to accept them as negative-value assets, although that’s what the current market seems to be indicating.
Yea #1 is unlikely when Sharks have been trying to move Labanc to no avail, even us balked at trading Labanc for Myers, how’d we move Garland who has much more cap hit or Beauvillier who hasnt done much to justify his. Beauvillier did a decent run with us after the trade but I dont think it improves his trade value.
Also Dumba cant guarantee an improvement over Myers, he’s been mediocre with Wild who are a more defensive team than us
/u/KoalaOriginal1260 you can edit the link in your post and remove the typo!
(If you want, that is. You do you.)
Dumba makes a ton of sense, *if* there is an low-pain way to make it work cap-wise. That’s obviously a big-if.
Step 1) Move Garland plus a reasonable sweetener to a team for future considerations.
Step 2) Offer Dumba something like 5M x 3, 5.5M x 2 or 6M x 1.
– Mikheyev Petey Kuzmenko
– Podkolzin Miller Boeser
– Beauvillier Blueger Pearson/PDG
– Joshua Aman Hoglander
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– Hughes / Dumba
– Cole / Hronek
– Soucy / Myers
– Wolanin / Juulsen
Overall I think attaching a bit of a sweetener to Garland is a worthwhile opportunity cost if you can bring in Dumba.
I would honestly just sign DeAngelo and have Tocchett put a leash on him.
Sorry. Would rather have Deangelo at 1 million than dumba at 4.5.
Could probably make it work without trading AB or Garland.
I think they could probably leave the defense as is and the money would be better spent getting my boy Pius
I think it’s too early to go for him. I’d be fine getting him at the deadline, but I expect Garland’s value to sky rocket under Tochett as it did before.
I am 100% against using the idea of “giving away garland along with a sweetener for cap space”
I like Dumba on a Vanek contract where you kinda give him the squeeze since he’s in the leftovers bin.
I just don’t want to give any term to a guy who has been declining. For a RHD with his pedigree to sit on the market like this is pretty telling when teams usually trip over their dicks in a rush to sign them.
Just not sure where the cap space comes from but if it gets late enough in the summer you might be able to get a deal and then work a training camp trade.
I’ve lost track…have they spent all the money from the OEL buyout yet????
Dumba was brutal last year, out of his prime, pass
Is this how long it took Roget to figure out a potential top 4 RHD was needed, and available, and we just needed to move a winger to make it happen?
It’s July 21st. Is Roget just now figuring this out?
…or is this just more desperate clickbait BS like most all of the other shit they are desperately pumping out right now?
it would be so vancouver at this point for them to pay to move myers, then sign Dumba to a 6×6 where he keeps trending downwards like he is.
No thanks!
Yeah if we could ship out a winger and sign Dumba to a short term deal, that would be a slam dunk, but clearly it’s proving difficult to do that. The same goes for adding another center.
I’d wait for the next year UFA to add another quality defenceman in Roy or Pesce.
Adding Dumba is rushing under the gun
Dumba on a 1yr deal would be the best option… if the Canucks are out of it, they can trade him at TDL. If he plays with Hughes he will have a “comeback” year and attract bigger $$ on a potential final long-term contract from the Flames.
It’s important to note that although Dumba is marginally better than Myers, his analytics have been garbage throughout his career (even during his peak 50 point campaign). He’s a big body and will likely cost less than what Myers is counting for against the cap this year while scoring a few more points, but nothing more.
The price for Dumba is probably a 2nd+ by extension of having to trade garland.
That price is likely too rich for the Canucks but imagine a Canucks team with Hughes, Hronek, and Dumba. We finally have a legit defense.