The OverDrive guys discuss the Mike Babcock controversy with Mitch Marner and how the coach sewered the rookie with his teammates. The guys call the antics garbage and explain how Babcock crossed the line with his actions.
So… Jamie's point is "We're all garbage people"? It's not about everyone being perfect, it's about most people not having so many terrible actions/deeds?
No one stood up because he was a very successful coach… As long as you are winning, everything flies. The Chicago Blackhawks turned a blind eye to a sexual assault on one of their players while on a cup run. These organizations prioritize winning and money over moral decency.
Oā Neil has my respect calling out this POS of a human being. Lots of others were hesitant to call him out but OāNeil has big balls and let him have it should have just let him talk and let everything out about Babknob. Most overrated coach in NHL history. Why did the Ilitch family keep this scum around for so long?
When you actually believe tubby o dog, you know youāre delusionalā¦ā¦no matter what choices he is asked about any group of players, 101% of the time, itāsā¦ā¦yeah, one of the dumbest commentators,like milbury who couldnāt give you an honest answerā¦..Stewart is another overbearing homey, but he only picks fourth liner leafsā¦ā¦.I wonder why?
Who's the guy on the right? I hope he's told by the producers to support Babcock because he's otherwise a blatant apologist. Never seen this show before, but the dude on the right isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and he's just not good at making a case.
so because it wasn't talked about at the time, means it can't be talked about now that he's old and washed up? if anything now is more than the best time to be talking about it, keep toxic POS coaches out of the league, for the sake of the players mental health and i bet his useless tactics haven't helped him at all, the amount of "buts" to this statement is fkkn disgusting there's no "buts" for someone doing things like that, deflecting and shifting the blame to others when it was nobody but Babcock himself who's put these players through h3ll
Listen to Mike Commodore. He cut up Babcock in the media and then signed with Detroit where Babcock was. Commodore said that half the team comes up to him and say "that was great",
Players don't say anything while he's doing it because they can suffer greatly while still on the team.
And yeah…he dropped Marner to the 3rd line multiple times. Manner succeeded regardless.
Here we are 3 years later and the Leafs still havenāt won a round. What comes to mind for me is this; Brendan Shanahan surely knew/knows Babcock, intimately as a hockey guy because he played for Babcock. What was the thought process bringing in Babcock and this āstyleā of coach knowing full well that this team would be young and inexperienced at the NHL level. Iām left thinking that there are some details about how decisions of this type are made. What critical things are we not privy to regarding the ārelationshipā between players and management. Certainly Shanahan was a hard nosed and terrific player. Perhaps there is a negative situation or atmosphere in and around the Leafs. Certainly they were allowed some leeway around the dress code and weāre always shown how much fun the players have in their downtime at Scotiabank arena. Just to sum up, Brendan Shanahan has been at the helm for something like 8 years with NO POSITIVE RESULTS IN THE PLAYOFFS. This MUST BE THE YEAR FOR SOMETHING MORE IN THE PLAYOFFS or changes MUST BE MADE. The Leafs, on paper, should have been able to progress farther in previous seasons, however have come up short EVERY YEARā¦
But he is vindicated yet again today. Some players are just soft. Do you want to win or not win? I don't think marner and co give a F. Time to play golf and video games for another summer. And btw @4:45 leivo is not in league, corrado not in the league, holl the leafs' worst defensemen… babs was right on these calls too. I don't know where these people find the audacity to judge one of the best coaches because he did a few things that don't pass their completely subjective morality test.
Met him at a bar downtown calgary when he was with detroit. Tries to introduce myself and tell him im a big fan of his work and he told me to fuck off and leave him alone.
What the actual F was Columbus management thinking? They should be losing draft picks for being enablers of abuse of power in the hockey world. Folks are sick of that crap.
I wonder just how much Babcock ācontributedā to the success of the teams he has been with. When Babcock won, his teams were loaded up with talented players. Look at the Wings etc. What does an NHL coach ābringā to a team environment? It seems that Babcock needed to ensure that he had a psychological EDGE over his players in order to motivate them. Even more of a tribute to those players who won in SPITE of Babcocks bullying tactics. If there are great players who canāt cope with this type of mental ABUSE, ultimately they will likely underperform. Was Babcock the ONLY coach who could have won in 2010? I think thatās unlikely in the extreme.
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Now look at Marner. babs wasted talent
Babcock man bad
So… Jamie's point is "We're all garbage people"? It's not about everyone being perfect, it's about most people not having so many terrible actions/deeds?
No one stood up because he was a very successful coach… As long as you are winning, everything flies. The Chicago Blackhawks turned a blind eye to a sexual assault on one of their players while on a cup run. These organizations prioritize winning and money over moral decency.
Oā Neil has my respect calling out this POS of a human being. Lots of others were hesitant to call him out but OāNeil has big balls and let him have it should have just let him talk and let everything out about Babknob. Most overrated coach in NHL history. Why did the Ilitch family keep this scum around for so long?
Babs was right all along ,the leafs have a bunch of pussies and go out in the first round year after year .
O Dog is the brst.
When you actually believe tubby o dog, you know youāre delusionalā¦ā¦no matter what choices he is asked about any group of players, 101% of the time, itāsā¦ā¦yeah, one of the dumbest commentators,like milbury who couldnāt give you an honest answerā¦..Stewart is another overbearing homey, but he only picks fourth liner leafsā¦ā¦.I wonder why?
Quit defending and making excuses for the guy that is the problem with society today nobody wants to hear the TRUTHā¦..
Who's the guy on the right? I hope he's told by the producers to support Babcock because he's otherwise a blatant apologist. Never seen this show before, but the dude on the right isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and he's just not good at making a case.
so because it wasn't talked about at the time, means it can't be talked about now that he's old and washed up? if anything now is more than the best time to be talking about it, keep toxic POS coaches out of the league, for the sake of the players mental health and i bet his useless tactics haven't helped him at all, the amount of "buts" to this statement is fkkn disgusting there's no "buts" for someone doing things like that, deflecting and shifting the blame to others when it was nobody but Babcock himself who's put these players through h3ll
There's alot of assholes in sports.
My mom worked at hockey alberta and dealt with him and said he's a jerk
He never had success in Toronto lol lol lol What coach has? lol š
The host on the left, the look on his face when OāNeil was talking in the first part.
Listen to Mike Commodore. He cut up Babcock in the media and then signed with Detroit where Babcock was. Commodore said that half the team comes up to him and say "that was great",
Players don't say anything while he's doing it because they can suffer greatly while still on the team.
And yeah…he dropped Marner to the 3rd line multiple times. Manner succeeded regardless.
Babcock going to the HOF…well, guess what…LOOK AT THE ROSTER when Babcock was successful there!
Here we are 3 years later and the Leafs still havenāt won a round. What comes to mind for me is this; Brendan Shanahan surely knew/knows Babcock, intimately as a hockey guy because he played for Babcock. What was the thought process bringing in Babcock and this āstyleā of coach knowing full well that this team would be young and inexperienced at the NHL level. Iām left thinking that there are some details about how decisions of this type are made. What critical things are we not privy to regarding the ārelationshipā between players and management. Certainly Shanahan was a hard nosed and terrific player. Perhaps there is a negative situation or atmosphere in and around the Leafs. Certainly they were allowed some leeway around the dress code and weāre always shown how much fun the players have in their downtime at Scotiabank arena.
Just to sum up, Brendan Shanahan has been at the helm for something like 8 years with NO POSITIVE RESULTS IN THE PLAYOFFS. This MUST BE THE YEAR FOR SOMETHING MORE IN THE PLAYOFFS or changes MUST BE MADE. The Leafs, on paper, should have been able to progress farther in previous seasons, however have come up short EVERY YEARā¦
Dallas should sign Modano and put him in the lineup and play him for one shift!
But he is vindicated yet again today. Some players are just soft. Do you want to win or not win? I don't think marner and co give a F. Time to play golf and video games for another summer. And btw @4:45 leivo is not in league, corrado not in the league, holl the leafs' worst defensemen… babs was right on these calls too. I don't know where these people find the audacity to judge one of the best coaches because he did a few things that don't pass their completely subjective morality test.
Met him at a bar downtown calgary when he was with detroit. Tries to introduce myself and tell him im a big fan of his work and he told me to fuck off and leave him alone.
Mike Keenan
It's a shame O-Dog doesn't hold the same opinion on him nowadays. I'd rather never have to see that shithead Babcock coach ever again.
Sounds like a good bookš?
Babcock is a goof period.
Marner sewer himself by not showing up lol
This clip aged well
What the actual F was Columbus management thinking? They should be losing draft picks for being enablers of abuse of power in the hockey world. Folks are sick of that crap.
The fact this was going on back then is unreal… finally held accountable and will never see a NHL dressing room again
This video has aged well. Babcock is a "BAD PERSON" I think O Dog said that 100 times.
This video aged wellā¦.
Dunno if the Hall of fame, is still in question…Hayes š
i dont think babcock will be in the Hall Of Fame anytime soon..
I wonder just how much Babcock ācontributedā to the success of the teams he has been with. When Babcock won, his teams were loaded up with talented players. Look at the Wings etc. What does an NHL coach ābringā to a team environment? It seems that Babcock needed to ensure that he had a psychological EDGE over his players in order to motivate them. Even more of a tribute to those players who won in SPITE of Babcocks bullying tactics. If there are great players who canāt cope with this type of mental ABUSE, ultimately they will likely underperform. Was Babcock the ONLY coach who could have won in 2010? I think thatās unlikely in the extreme.
Jeff: āBad guy, periodā
Amen
Jamieās devils advocate stance on this sucks, in retrospect.
Nazem Kadri is saying I told you so.
~why wasn't Hitler called out in the first 10 years of The 3rd Reich?? It's a dense question with the obvious answer…intimidation.