[Weekes] I’m told with Conor Garland recently changing his representation, and Vancouver’s willingness to retain near 30% of his salary, there’s some increased potential trade partners.
I’m told with Conor Garland recently changing his representation, and Vancouver’s willingness to retain near 30% of his salary, there’s some increased potential trade partners.#HockeyTwitter
— Kevin Weekes (@KevinWeekes) October 18, 2023
by YesThisIsFlo
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30% would mean the Canucks retain just under $1.5 mil for three seasons.
Lets say hypothetically, the Canucks would retain Garland down to $3.75M (so about 1.25M retained).
Would you trade Garland for Andew Peeke ($2.75M), 1-1?
Jesus christ, this team is going to shoot another toe off.
Can we really afford to add more dead cap to a team that has Petey and Rhoneks deals coming up, and the burden of OELs buyout looming for another bunch of years.
OEL + a potential Garland retention next year would cost us about 4 million, the following year that would jump to 6.2 million in dead cap. In a time where in theory, this team should be “contending”
Another step forward, and immediate step backwards. As is tradition.
I’m still not sure why we’re trying to make our team worse to save like 1mil in capspace.
None of the players I’ve heard rumoured for Garland move the needle in any way imo. Like if he really wants out, sure, but I’d tell him it’s not happening if we need to retain.
Has a GM ever screwed a team with one trade as bad as Benning did with the OEL / Garland trade?
Why even trade him at that point, christ. Just keep the guy
I honestly think trying to trade him mid-season would be a terrible decision in terms of timing. Flat cap has ruined the trade value of wingers. And Bettman has already all but confirmed that the cap is going to be between 87 and 88 million for 24/25. The expectation most people have right now is 87.5 million.
He would be much easier to trade next year and they’d probably get more in return. It’s not like having Garland on the roster right now is making them worse or blocking some budding young player on the depth chart. If they waited, I think they’d probably be able to trade him with no retained salary
Am I the only one who thinks they should still make this move?
People seem fixated on the fact that we’d be selling low on Garland, but it’s fairly obvious that he won’t be recouping his full value here, whereas the difference between having a competent #4-5 RHD and…whatever Myers was last night would be much more noticeable on aggregate. The new guy coming in doesn’t need to be a worldbeater so much as he needs to be a competent #4 defenseman, which shouldn’t be out of reach as part of the potential return.
The trade was horrific, but it’s a sunk cost, and they desperately need to improve the defence. The $1.5M retention on Garland won’t kill you as much as having Myers/Juulsen playing regular minutes will throughout the season, and it looks like Mikheyev will take Garland’s place on the roster in short order.
I hope all of these rumors are just that because if we trade him with salary retained for 3 YEARS when we’re already going to be dealing with OELs buyout then this mgmt is insane. You have players like Beauvillier and Myers who only have 1 yr left that if you retained won’t affect the team longterm.
I’m already accepting that Garland has a high chance of being traded but if these are the conditions then dear lord move someone else.
The only reason they want to trade him is because he’s never played for the Penguins.
I wonder what it’s like trading players that *don’t* require other assets and/or retentions to be added from our side…
Also, sure, as if there were teams out there saying ‘shit, we’d love to have that Conor Garland guy with that wonderful contract, but unfortunately he’d need to hire a different agent first!’ And now are all ‘Oooooh baby, new agent, give some of that Garland baby!!!’
#ThankYouJim
Make the trade! Clear cap space. Forget the past.
Fuck no. Garland is still a useful player. It’s insane that we’d pay $1.5M a year for 3 years to play AGAINST us
The OEL/Garland trade has to be in the top 3 worst deals in franchise history. I would argue that it could even contend with the Neely trade for the top spot. A 10th overall pick – Dylan Guenther – for two guys who the Canucks will be eating dead cap on for the foreseeable future. Unreal.
As if buying out OEL wasn’t bad enough, let’s retain salary on the supposedly better piece in that trade. What a cluster fuck.